In article , Gray Shockley
writes:


Actually, it was pretty "cut and dried".

Cooper pulled a gun on a doctor down in the village.
Said doctor swore out a complaint.

Cooper also had - iirc - run off some people
from land that did not belong to him.

A couple of deputies went up on the mountain
(hill? whatever) trying to immitate noisy teenagers.

Cooper shot a deputy in the head. The
other deputy shot (and killed) Cooper.

Remember, Cooper was an alcoholic
and a drunk (those two do not
always go together.) It was one of
the things to listen for in his broadcasts.


I truly believe that all of his actions in the immediate past preceding his
death were - whether he acknowledged it to himself or not - designed for
"suicide by cop".


I really don't think he particularly wanted to go on living.


No matter how you dice it or slice it, it was a tragedy and a pity.





Agree . . .
Had he gotten SOME kind of help, or acknowleged his problem ( Any one of many)
he
( & the poor Deputy He Shot ) would still be alive..

Suicide by Cop

( Following A Cold Blooded Murder )

Very tragic event all around....

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:51:01 -0600, Diverd4777 wrote
(in message ):

In article , Gray Shockley
writes:


Actually, it was pretty "cut and dried".

Cooper pulled a gun on a doctor down in the village.
Said doctor swore out a complaint.

Cooper also had - iirc - run off some people
from land that did not belong to him.

A couple of deputies went up on the mountain
(hill? whatever) trying to immitate noisy teenagers.

Cooper shot a deputy in the head. The
other deputy shot (and killed) Cooper.

Remember, Cooper was an alcoholic
and a drunk (those two do not
always go together.) It was one of
the things to listen for in his broadcasts.


I truly believe that all of his actions in the immediate past preceding
his
death were - whether he acknowledged it to himself or not - designed for
"suicide by cop".


I really don't think he particularly wanted to go on living.


No matter how you dice it or slice it, it was a tragedy and a pity.





Agree . . .
Had he gotten SOME kind of help, or acknowleged his problem ( Any one of
many)
he
( & the poor Deputy He Shot ) would still be alive..

Suicide by Cop

( Following A Cold Blooded Murder )

Very tragic event all around....


I never did found out if the
deputy died; do you know?


Thanks,
Gray

In article , Gray Shockley
writes:



I never did found out if the
deputy died; do you know?


Thanks,
Gray
-Luckily, it looks like Heroic medical intervention prevented the Deputy from
Dying.
Gun shot to the head ; doesn't get much worse. Major Brain damage & Years &
Years of rehab.
No word that I can find on his condition;
- except to say No One would want to trade places with him.

- Say a Prayer for him,



http://www.potowmack.org/196knox.html

Militia Figure Killed After Shooting, 11/06/01

PHOENIX (AP) - A wanted militia figure who vowed that he would never be taken
alive was killed by a law enforcement officer after he shot a sheriff's deputy
trying to arrest him, authorities said Tuesday. The deputies drew the man out
of his house Monday by posing as civilians parked near his house in Eagar,
about 165 miles northeast of Phoenix. William Milton Cooper, 58, had confronted
people who stopped near his home with a handgun in July and September, said
Department of Public Safety spokesman Steve Volden. The deputies were serving
an arrest warrant on those incidents.

Cooper turned and fled when the deputies identified themselves. He opened fire
with a handgun as two deputies closed in, wounding an officer in the head,
Volden said. The other officer shot Cooper. The wounded deputy remained
hospitalized Tuesday; his condition was not released.


& heres another websiter from one of coopers followers . .

http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/williamcooper.html

(Diverd4777) wrote in message ...
In article , Gray Shockley
writes:


Actually, it was pretty "cut and dried".

Cooper pulled a gun on a doctor down in the village.
Said doctor swore out a complaint.

Cooper also had - iirc - run off some people
from land that did not belong to him.

A couple of deputies went up on the mountain
(hill? whatever) trying to immitate noisy teenagers.

Cooper shot a deputy in the head. The
other deputy shot (and killed) Cooper.

Remember, Cooper was an alcoholic
and a drunk (those two do not
always go together.) It was one of
the things to listen for in his broadcasts.


I truly believe that all of his actions in the immediate past preceding his
death were - whether he acknowledged it to himself or not - designed for
"suicide by cop".


I really don't think he particularly wanted to go on living.


No matter how you dice it or slice it, it was a tragedy and a pity.





Agree . . .
Had he gotten SOME kind of help, or acknowleged his problem ( Any one of many)
he
( & the poor Deputy He Shot ) would still be alive..

Suicide by Cop

( Following A Cold Blooded Murder )

Very tragic event all around....


I don't recall he shot any cops, he actually was running to his front
door step when the special op feds came and gunned him down at his
doorstep.

Chalked another "Danger to the feds agenda" up.

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:50:36 -0600, RedOctober90 wrote
(in message ) :

I don't recall he shot any cops,


Your "recollection" is bogus, SweetPea.

he actually was running to his front door step


Wrong asgain, illiterate one.


when the special op feds

It was local law enforcement, NoBrainer.


came and gunned him down at his doorstep.


Chalked another "Danger to the feds agenda" up.


No wonder you have such bad breath; you're talking out your ass.

I thought I had you filed under "too stupid to bother with".


There.



Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
Everything is always the worst it's ever been.

In article ,
(RedOctober90) writes:




I don't recall he shot any cops, he actually was running to his front
door step

He was running to his door because he'd just shot a deputy Sherrif in the head;

when the special op feds

( No, Little green men disguised as Local Law enforcement.
Alien Abduction gone all wrong)

came and gunned him down at his
doorstep.

Tragic. just another LAw Abiding Home owner shot down in cold bloood whilst
going out to pick up the newspaper..
Right..


Chalked another "Danger to the feds agenda" up.


Please, Get Off The Grid..!

(Diverd4777) wrote in
:

He was running to his door because he'd just shot a deputy Sherrif in
the head;

when the special op feds


Hey sport, how about supplying a link to the details rather than
offering it anecdotally? And I don't mean the web site of the police
agency involved, a little objectivity wouldn't hurt.

I don't believe that there has been a police induced homicide in the
country that the police didn't claim was justifiable. How about the
unarmed black man in New York that was shot 19 times by the police
because he reached for his wallet. No criminal record, no weapon, just
zealous cops that believe that they have a license to kill since they
are unaccountable for their actions.

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/index.html Notice that the
officers were found "not guilty" (of shooting 41 shots at and hitting 19
times, an unarmed man with no criminal record) Found "not guilty"! They
murdered him. He had done "nothing wrong"! Can you shoot someone 19
times that had done nothing wrong, and is not on your property, and does
not point a weapon at you, or threaten you in any way? No way. They
murdered him.

How about Randy Weaver, the white separatist, (oh, pardon me, I mean
white supremacist, at least according to the mainstream media), that
received a significant settlement from the government even though he
(Randy) had shot and killed a law enforcement officer at the beginning
of the standoff. Oh, and the FBI really punished the agents, they
issued, are you ready for this, (tremble) "a letter of censure"! (shake)
That's accountability!

http://www.mhrn.org/news/1096Weaver.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangster...randy_weaver/1.
html?sect=18

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/Pre_96/A...5/444.txt.html

Just because an individual kills a law enforcement officer in a
situation that arises from an officer's attempts to arrest or subdue
said individual doesn't mean that his actions were incorrect. The courts
need to determine fault, rampaging officers need to be accountable. Of
course, virtually 99% of the times an individual would be guilty for
shooting an officer, but as can be seen, there are exceptions.

You seem to suffer the beneficent syndrome, the beneficent government,
beneficent law enforcement, beneficent everything syndrome. As long as
the intentions "seem" good, they must "be" good.

(Oh, and I'm sure that you feel that I suffer from the _________________
syndrome.)

Law enforcement is people too (sic). They are good and bad, sane and
insane, honest and dishonest.

Just because Bill Cooper was a nut doesn't mean that he wasn't wronged
by law enforcement. One thing is for sure though, the officers have
assured that Bill can't tell his side of the story.

Dr. Artaud


--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."

In article , Doctor Artaud
writes:


http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/index.html Notice that the
officers were found "not guilty" (of shooting 41 shots at and hitting 19
times, an unarmed man with no criminal record) Found "not guilty"! They
murdered him. He had done "nothing wrong"! Can you shoot someone 19
times that had done nothing wrong, and is not on your property, and does
not point a weapon at you, or threaten you in any way? No way. They
murdered him.

-It was very tragic, yes.
Murder? Not so.


Just because Bill Cooper was a nut doesn't mean that he wasn't wronged
by law enforcement.

Pray tell good Doctor:
- What would you do if , in trying to serve a Warrant, one of your fellow
officers was
shot in the head ?

One thing is for sure though, the officers have
assured that Bill can't tell his side of the story.


Cooper Shot a fellow officer in the head, what would you expect them to do
??

- Dr. Artaud , Words fail me ! ( & Dr of What BTW..)

In article , Doctor Artaud
writes:

:

He was running to his door because he'd just shot a deputy Sherrif in
the head;



Hey sport, how about supplying a link to the details rather than
offering it anecdotally? And I don't mean the web site of the police
agency involved, a little objectivity wouldn't hurt.


I really don't know 'detail" you're looking for here;
" A little Objectivity ? "
again, what are you looking for?
Whats wrong with the Police report??
were you there??
What 's inaccurate ??