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BDK December 28th 03 05:21 PM

In article ,
says...
Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK


Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


Where are you anyway?? You can get MT on line. CQ and POPComm did always
suck. 73, at least Wayne's editorial, was pretty weird. You can get QST
all over the place around the Toledo/Detroit area. All the bookstores
have it, a couple of drugstores have it, and I think at least one of the
Meijer's has it too.

BDK

BDK December 28th 03 05:26 PM

In article , gray-
says...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK


Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(



If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US




Well, since almost all HF transceivers are also good to great general
coverage receivers, there is a link in equipment. Besides QST does
antenna articles, and receiver reviews too! You are right about
listening to hams though, it's about as boring as it gets, unless
there's someone going off their rocker, or like on 3.950LSB when the
liberty net and those "volks" get jammed. It's always fun.

BDK

JEP December 30th 03 03:51 PM

You may not be aware but HAMS operate on SHORTWAVE, so do CB
operators. Doesn't matter HF, VHF, UHF. Still shortwave.


Gray Shockley wrote in message s.com...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK


Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(



If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US


JEP December 30th 03 03:54 PM

BDK

Well, Barnes and Noble in upper Michigan does NOT carry it any more as
B Dalton does not either. I'm now in central Florida and B & N and
Books a Million NO GO.
QST is not available everywhere and you might find it's not available
in the Toledo area anymore.


BDK wrote in message ...
In article ,
says...
Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK


Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


Where are you anyway?? You can get MT on line. CQ and POPComm did always
suck. 73, at least Wayne's editorial, was pretty weird. You can get QST
all over the place around the Toledo/Detroit area. All the bookstores
have it, a couple of drugstores have it, and I think at least one of the
Meijer's has it too.

BDK


JJ December 30th 03 05:34 PM

Gray Shockley wrote:

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.


And then he includes this.

Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US


Why you think hams are interested in what radios and antennas you use to
SWL with is beyond me.


RHF December 31st 03 12:19 AM

JJ,

"Why you think hams are interested in what radios
and antennas you use to SWL with is beyond me."

Since this was Cross Posted to several NewsGroups:

* rec.radio.amateur.policy, [ Amateur - HAM ]

* rec.radio.amateur.misc, [ Amateur - HAM ]

* rec.radio.shortwave, [ S H O R T W A V E ]

* rec.radio.cb [ C B ]

The Devil Is In The Details...
So "GS" is simply communicating his 'status' as a SWL.

The Question Every Amateur Must Ask Themselves is . . .
Is Any Body ? ? ? L I S T E N I N G ? ? ?

YES - But they may be a lowly SWL and You will Never Know;
Unless the SWL sends the HAM a QCL Request and the HAM Replys in Kind.
? How many Amateurs Actively Seek QCL Reports form SWLs ?
? How many Amateurs 'send out' "QCL Cards" to the SWLs ?

Exus Laxus Good Buddy ~ RHF
Breaking-On-the-Low-Side - Can I Get a Radio Check ? QC? QC? BS!
..
..
= = = JJ
= = = wrote in message ...
Gray Shockley wrote:

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.


And then he includes this.

Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US


Why you think hams are interested in what radios
and antennas you use to SWL with is beyond me.


BDK December 31st 03 01:00 AM

In article ,
says...
BDK

Well, Barnes and Noble in upper Michigan does NOT carry it any more as
B Dalton does not either. I'm now in central Florida and B & N and
Books a Million NO GO.
QST is not available everywhere and you might find it's not available
in the Toledo area anymore.


BDK wrote in message ...
In article ,
says...
Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


Where are you anyway?? You can get MT on line. CQ and POPComm did always
suck. 73, at least Wayne's editorial, was pretty weird. You can get QST
all over the place around the Toledo/Detroit area. All the bookstores
have it, a couple of drugstores have it, and I think at least one of the
Meijer's has it too.

BDK



Hmm, well I saw it at one place last week, along with MT, CQ, and the
scanner one, I can't think of the name. Leo's bookstore has them all,
they used to have the British SW Magazine and Practical Wireless too,
but not lately.

I haven't been to B Dalton in a long time, but Barnes and Nobles had it
a couple of months ago.

I guess you will have to subscribe, it's cheaper than buying it anyway.

BDK

Dee D. Flint December 31st 03 01:18 AM


"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Hmm, well I saw it at one place last week, along with MT, CQ, and the
scanner one, I can't think of the name. Leo's bookstore has them all,
they used to have the British SW Magazine and Practical Wireless too,
but not lately.

I haven't been to B Dalton in a long time, but Barnes and Nobles had it
a couple of months ago.

I guess you will have to subscribe, it's cheaper than buying it anyway.

BDK


Technically you don't "subscribe" to QST. You join the ARRL and receive the
magazine as a result of your membership.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


JJ December 31st 03 02:14 AM

RHF wrote:


The Devil Is In The Details...
So "GS" is simply communicating his 'status' as a SWL.


All it conveys is he owns two radios and some other stuff, it conveys
nothing about his 'status' as an SWL. Just a brag list. Maybe I should
list all my ham equipment with my postings, like anyone would care.


gw December 31st 03 03:49 AM

JJ wrote in message ...
Gray Shockley wrote:

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.


And then he includes this.

Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US




hey john how are things in colorado springs???

Why you think hams are interested in what radios and antennas you use to
SWL with is beyond me.



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