"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
igy.com...

And what efforts did you make to convert the majority of members to your
point of view?? While the items you list are worthy activities, they
don't
do much to change policy.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, what ARRL office(s) do you hold in your effort to stem the tide
of changes within the ARS? If your answer is "none," I suggest you
start campaigning yesterday.

When and if I wish to change ARRL policy, I'll dive into the political
arena. I'm not the one complaining about ARRL policies.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Not in the Mid-Michigan area.....can't find any radio related magazine
anymore! (except for something like Popular Electronics)

Heard some vicious rumor about the anti-radio relay league pulling magazines
from "shelf sales" recently but I cannot confirm this.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."


"JJ" wrote in message
...
JEP wrote:


2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.

That would be true if they were selling only ONE copy of it, but when I
COULD find a copy of it locally, due to the fact that it almost ALWAYS sold
out each month, I inquired as to how many copies they got at the closest
store. They said 15 per issue.

So your math would be in slight error. Multiply that number by 15 and you
get $718.56. Not bad for only one magazine, and when you consider they
usually have at least 100 or more magazines on their shelves.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."



At $4.99/mo ($59.88/yr) plus tax, I'm sure it wasn't a high volume
business
for Barnes and Noble, since that's a 53% premium over the membership dues,
and you don't get the other benefits which comes with membership. Only an
idiot would regularly buy QST from a news stand!

73, de Hans, K0HB

You do realize that the ARRL has the publication and distribution of QST
contracted out, don't you? You should crab to them, not the league per
se.

Cop out excuse. A person's beef would be with the ARRL, not the contracted
agency, and it would be the ARRL's responsibility to deal with the
contracted agency.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."

Moving it to the south is gonna do NOTHING more than change the location of
the headquarters.....


"Ragchewer" wrote in message
...

Why do I not like the ARRL? I will answer that with another
question. Would you trust a gang of Yankee carpetbaggers,
the same bunch who stole from the southerners at the end of
the War Between The States? You would? Good! Sign
up for life membership with the rest of the NewingtonYankee
gang. As for me, the league can go f..k itself, since that is what
it has been doing to the rest of us for decades.

RC

In article ,
says...
Not in the Mid-Michigan area.....can't find any radio related magazine
anymore! (except for something like Popular Electronics)

Heard some vicious rumor about the anti-radio relay league pulling magazines
from "shelf sales" recently but I cannot confirm this.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."


"JJ" wrote in message
...
JEP wrote:


2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

In article , says...
K1MAN has done more good for ham radio in one year
than the ARRL has done in its entire life!

You've got to be kidding, right?

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
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Vicksburg, MS US

"Gray Shockley" wrote:

And - of the four newsgroups - two are
for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when
deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Sadly, we don't always have much control over where messages are
cross-posted, Gray. Since some Hams are CB'ers and others SWL's, the
discussion itself may have actually started in one of those non-ham
newsgroups. In other cases, it is trolls (in any one of the newsgroups)
trying to belittle Ham radio and it's operators (posted to a number of
newsgroups in an effort to get the widest possible audience for that). In
still other cases, the discussion started in a ham radio newsgroup, with
other newsgroups added by participants who mainly frequent those other
newsgroups. Whatever the case, you're certainly not alone - we get our share
of messages relating to other topics posted in the Ham radio newsgroups as
well.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/