Telamon wrote in message
I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a radio that
must be modified to work as advertised.

no problem. but aren't you this electronics guru? imagine a machine shop
owner buying his car based on stock horsepower while balking at someone
bolting on a supercharger. what can you hear on your RX340 that you cannot
on your R8B? on an R75? please site specific specs. we all know the answer
and that is why the R75 is now one of the best selling tabletops.

I haven't noticed anything that the RX340 can pick up that the R8B can't
hear. Usually the RX340 can make a station sound better but other times
the R8B does better depending on conditions. The radios are all on
different antennas, which make for a different reception condition so I
am not generally comparing them.
Thanks for this one.Using simple logic if your R8B [$1,499] can "pick
up" anything that your ten tec RX 340 [$4,000]hear,then my Icon R-75
[$450=$70.00 in mods=$520.00]can run side by side with your expensive
Ten Tec [because my R-75 was better [in a real life side by side test]
in hard core dxing than my R8b [sold after that].
I would not be buying a new car and modifying it either. An older out of
warranty car could be a different story. In my youth I was into street
racing and did just that.
I bet that my toyota [r-75] can run side by side with your your
mercedez [ten tec 340]
Some people just don't understand that anything manufactured has
engineering compromises built in. Each radio when designed has a slew of
compromises where one performance parameter is diminished in favor of
another. The result is that depending on situation and conditions one
radio will do better than another. Change the situation or conditions
and the other radio does better so which is best?
I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.
You generally get what you pay for. Spend more money on a radio and you
can get higher quality components resulting in better specifications,
reliability, capabilities or operational features.
This is the great myth again price=performance.Better
specifications? Tell me about your ten tech RX-340 dynamic range
/IP3[5khz]or blocking capacity.

Kenneth wrote:


I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.

Another tip Kenneth: If you need new treads, I recommend Goodyear.

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:


I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.

Another tip Kenneth: If you need new treads, I recommend Goodyear.
Thanks Steve, you are correct I forgot a "h".I'm writing too much
this days and sometimes I forgot a letter or some coma. But I'm a
fortunate man I have you at my service as my personal secretary and
the nice thing is that I don't have to pay you anything...

In article ,
(Kenneth) wrote:

Telamon wrote in message
I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a radio that
must be modified to work as advertised.

no problem. but aren't you this electronics guru? imagine a machine shop
owner buying his car based on stock horsepower while balking at someone
bolting on a supercharger. what can you hear on your RX340 that you
cannot
on your R8B? on an R75? please site specific specs. we all know the
answer
and that is why the R75 is now one of the best selling tabletops.

I haven't noticed anything that the RX340 can pick up that the R8B can't
hear. Usually the RX340 can make a station sound better but other times
the R8B does better depending on conditions. The radios are all on
different antennas, which make for a different reception condition so I
am not generally comparing them.
Thanks for this one.Using simple logic if your R8B [$1,499] can "pick
up" anything that your ten tec RX 340 [$4,000]hear,then my Icon R-75
[$450=$70.00 in mods=$520.00]can run side by side with your expensive
Ten Tec [because my R-75 was better [in a real life side by side test]
in hard core dxing than my R8b [sold after that].
I would not be buying a new car and modifying it either. An older out of
warranty car could be a different story. In my youth I was into street
racing and did just that.
I bet that my toyota [r-75] can run side by side with your your
mercedez [ten tec 340]
Some people just don't understand that anything manufactured has
engineering compromises built in. Each radio when designed has a slew of
compromises where one performance parameter is diminished in favor of
another. The result is that depending on situation and conditions one
radio will do better than another. Change the situation or conditions
and the other radio does better so which is best?
I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.
You generally get what you pay for. Spend more money on a radio and you
can get higher quality components resulting in better specifications,
reliability, capabilities or operational features.
This is the great myth again price=performance.Better
specifications? Tell me about your ten tech RX-340 dynamic range
/IP3[5khz]or blocking capacity.

Why don't you tell us? Your answer should be far more entertaining than
anything I could come up with seeing how "I got it" only yesterday.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

hi Telamon:

how would you characterize these RX340 specs?

IP3: 5-kHz -53 dBm, 20-kHz +4 dBm
phase noise: -113 dBc/Hz
ultimate rejection: 70 dB

regards,
phil

In article , "phil "
wrote:

hi Telamon:

how would you characterize these RX340 specs?

IP3: 5-kHz -53 dBm, 20-kHz +4 dBm

The 5 KHz number is not very good. The 20 KHz number is not bad. In
practice you might think I would have a problem listening to a weak
station with a strong station on the next channel over but I haven't
noticed it.

phase noise: -113 dBc/Hz

It would be nice if it was -120 down but it appears to be low enough
because the receiver noise floor can be 1uV.

ultimate rejection: 70 dB

It is supposed to be at least 70 dB but depending on how you use the
radio it is actually much greater so the ultimate selectivity is better
than this number makes it look.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

hi Telamon:

my purpose was not to belittle. you're correct, specs can be deceiving.
does someone sell a $600 K2 for a $3300 Orion if under their conditions it
yields only 0.2% more IDs? possibly. you would be successful with any
receiver because you understand RF environment, antennas, propagation
patterns, etc.

regards,
phil

"phil " wrote:

hi Telamon:

how would you characterize these RX340 specs?

IP3: 5-kHz -53 dBm, 20-kHz +4 dBm
phase noise: -113 dBc/Hz
ultimate rejection: 70 dB

How's this radio look to you, phil?

dynamic range at 5 kHz: 59 dB, 20 kHz: 81 dB
phase noise: -131 dBc/Hz
ultimate rejection: 75 dB

--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940