In article , N8KDV
writes:


It is cold out, we agree on that at least..

Yes, it is cold. 11 degrees here, but I guess you got it worse farther east.
Only
thing keeping us a bit warmer here is Lake Michigan. It is much colder
inland.



Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100
years
,is difficult...

Diverd4777,

"large mass of mammoth fleas"

How MAMMOTH are Mommoth Fleas - One Wonders :o)

~ RHF
..
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= = = (Diverd4777)
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In article , N8KDV
writes:


It is cold out, we agree on that at least..

Yes, it is cold. 11 degrees here, but I guess you got it worse farther east.
Only
thing keeping us a bit warmer here is Lake Michigan. It is much colder
inland.



Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100
years
,is difficult...

N8KDV,

"One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as
'Global Warming', at least anything caused by man."

The Simply Fact is "Global Warming" is a Man Made Event [.]
[The Reality is "Global Warming" is a Man Invented Event. ]

Everytime a Politician Opens his/her Mouth We Get More "Global Warming" !

Therefore we must Reduce the Number of Politicians with Open Mouths.

Reduce each Politicians Open Mouths Time.

Require Politicians to Be Honest and Only Talk out of their A**Holes.
{ This Gas we Can Burn As Fuel. }

Eliminate Politicians by the the Year 2020 so we can see straight.
{ Convert over to Senior Statespersons who don't say much at all. }


jftfoi ~ RHF
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= = = N8KDV
= = = wrote in message ...
Diverd4777 wrote:

Right:

This is what I was talking about..fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland being
lighter than warm seawater coming up from the Carribbean.
possibly cutting off the "Gulf Stream"
and plungeing western Europe into an ice age..
among other things..

Dan ( Listening to radio canada 9.515)

One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming' , at least
anything caused by man.

Al wasn't wearing his tin-foil hat yesterday, I wonder why?



In article , "Ian Smith"
writes:

Then you'll know that fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland is
less dense than warm seawater coming up to Europe from the Carribbean.
Consequently, it is possible for global warming to cut off the "Gulf
Stream" and plunge western Europe into an ice age.
There are all sorts of counter-intuitive possibilities caused by
global warming.

Anyway, shortwave.

Ian, Renfrew, Scotland.

There was a state (don't remember which one) that, a few years ago, passed a
law that politicians could not lie. The supreme court overturned it saying
that they had a constitutional right to lie.

"RHF" wrote in message

Require Politicians to Be Honest and Only Talk out of their A**Holes.

IT's a MAMMOTH problem LOL.
V Solidarity
"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
There is a theory ( I believe) relating to melting of the Artic ice caps,
and the cold mel****er from that
changing the gulf stream moving it to the south
resulting in colder weather for the Northeast..
Big Complicated System we're dealing with

I think I see a Wooly Mammoth out there !

Sharpening up my Spear Tips..

Dan


In article , (Frank
White)
writes:


Actually, you could make a convincing argument that it IS
because of global warming, and the shifting in weather
patterns (especially the artic jet stream) that people are
freezing body parts off in the northeast right now. You
start mucking with the environment, you're going to get
ALL sort of interesting effects...

And, just to stay on topic: Shortwave.

Diverd4777 wrote:

Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100
years
,is difficult...

Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too
late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of
no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why
even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on
the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise.


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If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it
right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling
and we were heading for another ice age.
"starman" wrote in message
...
Diverd4777 wrote:

Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years,
it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and
other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth
will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the
last 100
years
,is difficult...

Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too
late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of
no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why
even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on
the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise.


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There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm.

CW wrote:

If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it
right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling
and we were heading for another ice age.
"starman" wrote in message
...
Diverd4777 wrote:

Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years,
it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and
other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth
will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the
last 100
years
,is difficult...

Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too
late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of
no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why
even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on
the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise.


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Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical.
"starman" wrote in message
...
There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm.

CW wrote:

If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do
it
right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was
cooling
and we were heading for another ice age.
"starman" wrote in message
...
Diverd4777 wrote:

Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100
years,
it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and
other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the
mammoth
will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the
last 100
years
,is difficult...

Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too
late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of
no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why
even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on
the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise.


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That's the big question, whether we are willing to accept some negative
impacts on certain areas of the economy in the long term interest of the
planet. The US is not known for doing particularly well in that regard.
The long term interests of our corporations seldom extends beyond the
next business quarter.

CW wrote:

Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical.
"starman" wrote in message
...
There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm.

CW wrote:

If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do
it
right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was
cooling
and we were heading for another ice age.
"starman" wrote in message
...
Diverd4777 wrote:

Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up"..
14 degrees outside now.

Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic

With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100
years,
it's
tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and
other "
greenhouse gas" is doing..

If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance,
but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas,
they will cause some disturbance.
where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the
mammoth
will
eventually react .

Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the
last 100
years
,is difficult...

Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too
late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of
no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why
even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on
the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise.


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