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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Without really an attempt at counter-argument! So what? My comment and your response is sufficient to make my point. Keep feeding us that DX, Steve. Everyone needs an intrinsic purpose to justify spending 18 hours a day in front of their receiver. ;-) There ya go, making assumptions again! You accuse others of doing it, but you are indeed the Master! Ways to tell when Steve Lare is getting upset: 1. When he says he's not. 2. When he goes on the offensive and accuses you of it, first. 3. He loses all ability to discern humor. ;-) 4 He makes three posts to every single post you make. Enough's enough. Go listen to your radio, Centurion! I meant it when I said that you are the soul of this newsgroup. Which is kind of a sad testament.... ;-) Mike LOL... I take it you admit defeat? Somehow you always twist things to other people 'being upset' when you've lost. It must be the debaters way out. It's a documented fact! Google it! Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B Master DX Centurion (216 countries QSL'd) Proud descendant of the Miami Nation |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV I can't spell! You can't read and retain! It's Master DX Centurion, not Master Centurion DXer...! LOL! GOTCHA! Or are you dyslexic? Well, yes, I am dyslexic. But don't worry, it's far more easily dealt with than that nasty social disease of obtuse conservatism that it appears you've picked up..... You've been a hoot, Steve. Definitely made me smile on my birthday. Don't change (as if that were even a remote possibility ;-) No chance of that happening! Mike Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Can you offer any URLs to support your counter-claims? A comparison of
source qualifications would be VERY interesting. http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast21jul_1m.htm http://www.greeningearthsociety.org/...e/v6n7/hot.htm I read Gore's book when it first came out. In the back were the "footnotes." One of them was a rather long paragraph that conflicted with everything he'd written in the main body of text. I forget what it was about and I don't have the book (it was borrowed). What I wonder is why nontoxic CO2 is lumped with the toxic gasses that cause even more problems with our climate. Maybe the world's population should be reduced just to cut down on the amount of CO2 that is exhaled. Here's the breakdown of Earth's atmospheric gases: The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%). Note that water vapor, also a greenhouse gas although not so noted in this list I got off the Internet, averages many time greater than CO2. Bill, K5BY |
Bill [K5BY],
Once Again, Thank You for the Links :o) anik ~ RHF = = = And Now I Know ! .. .. = = = (WShoots1) = = = wrote in message ... Can you offer any URLs to support your counter-claims? A comparison of source qualifications would be VERY interesting. http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast21jul_1m.htm http://www.greeningearthsociety.org/...e/v6n7/hot.htm I read Gore's book when it first came out. In the back were the "footnotes." One of them was a rather long paragraph that conflicted with everything he'd written in the main body of text. I forget what it was about and I don't have the book (it was borrowed). What I wonder is why nontoxic CO2 is lumped with the toxic gasses that cause even more problems with our climate. Maybe the world's population should be reduced just to cut down on the amount of CO2 that is exhaled. Here's the breakdown of Earth's atmospheric gases: The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%). Note that water vapor, also a greenhouse gas although not so noted in this list I got off the Internet, averages many time greater than CO2. Bill, K5BY |
Bill [K5BY],
Once Again, Thank You for the Links :o) anik ~ RHF = = = And Now I Know ! .. .. = = = (WShoots1) = = = wrote in message ... Can you offer any URLs to support your counter-claims? A comparison of source qualifications would be VERY interesting. http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast21jul_1m.htm http://www.greeningearthsociety.org/...e/v6n7/hot.htm I read Gore's book when it first came out. In the back were the "footnotes." One of them was a rather long paragraph that conflicted with everything he'd written in the main body of text. I forget what it was about and I don't have the book (it was borrowed). What I wonder is why nontoxic CO2 is lumped with the toxic gasses that cause even more problems with our climate. Maybe the world's population should be reduced just to cut down on the amount of CO2 that is exhaled. Here's the breakdown of Earth's atmospheric gases: The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%). Note that water vapor, also a greenhouse gas although not so noted in this list I got off the Internet, averages many time greater than CO2. Bill, K5BY |
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What I wonder is why nontoxic CO2 is lumped with the toxic gasses that cause even more problems with our climate. Maybe the world's population should be reduced just to cut down on the amount of CO2 that is exhaled. I remember hearing about a village in Cameroon that was essentially asphyxiated when a local volcano spewed out CO2 that blamketed the area. In that case, such a large quantity of CO2 given off in a short period of time was toxic enough to wipe out a village. There are a few good natural solutions to excess CO2 in the atmosphere. One is that the bodies of water in the world can act as a CO2 sink. The other solution are plants as they consume CO2 during photosynthesis. Maybe humanity should quit deforesting at an ugly rate? Here's the breakdown of Earth's atmospheric gases: The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%). Note that water vapor, also a greenhouse gas although not so noted in this list I got off the Internet, averages many time greater than CO2. Bill, K5BY That's the crux of the matter. Water vapour is in much greater quantities than CO2 in the atmosphere and does have an obsrvable day-to-day effect on local temperature. If you were to compare equal quantities of water vapour and CO2 then CO2's efficiency as a greenhouse gas becomes quite a bit greater than water vapour. Regards John Barnard |
JB,
"I remember hearing about a village in Cameroon that was essentially asphyxiated when a local volcano spewed out CO2 that blamketed the area. In that case, such a large quantity of CO2 given off in a short period of time was toxic enough to wipe out a village." ? TOXIC ? In this case it is Oxygen Displacement (The normal AIR Mixture is being Replaced by another Gas.) Same thing happens in Grain Silos and old water wells. Try working in a Room full of Freon Ultra-Sonic Cleaners. http://inventors.about.com/library/i...rs/blfreon.htm jtfm ~ RHF .. .. = = = John Barnard = = = wrote in message ... Stuff snipped What I wonder is why nontoxic CO2 is lumped with the toxic gasses that cause even more problems with our climate. Maybe the world's population should be reduced just to cut down on the amount of CO2 that is exhaled. I remember hearing about a village in Cameroon that was essentially asphyxiated when a local volcano spewed out CO2 that blamketed the area. In that case, such a large quantity of CO2 given off in a short period of time was toxic enough to wipe out a village. There are a few good natural solutions to excess CO2 in the atmosphere. One is that the bodies of water in the world can act as a CO2 sink. The other solution are plants as they consume CO2 during photosynthesis. Maybe humanity should quit deforesting at an ugly rate? Here's the breakdown of Earth's atmospheric gases: The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%). Note that water vapor, also a greenhouse gas although not so noted in this list I got off the Internet, averages many time greater than CO2. Bill, K5BY That's the crux of the matter. Water vapour is in much greater quantities than CO2 in the atmosphere and does have an obsrvable day-to-day effect on local temperature. If you were to compare equal quantities of water vapour and CO2 then CO2's efficiency as a greenhouse gas becomes quite a bit greater than water vapour. Regards John Barnard |
RHF wrote: JB, "I remember hearing about a village in Cameroon that was essentially asphyxiated when a local volcano spewed out CO2 that blamketed the area. In that case, such a large quantity of CO2 given off in a short period of time was toxic enough to wipe out a village." It was not a volcano, but rather a volcanic lake. On 21 August 1986, Lake Nyos in Cameroon suffered a landslide which triggered the release of CO2 which was trapped under the lake. Approximately 1700 people were killed. There are apparently a good number of other lakes around the world where this phenomenon could occur again. Just to keep things in perspective, I recall hearing about this incident while monitoring shortwave! Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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