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Old January 17th 04, 03:37 AM
Stephen M.H. Lawrence
 
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I can remember the (in)famous Newsweek cover
which read, in bold print, something along the lines of:

"THE COMING ICE AGE."

The nutcases can't make up their minds, but are trying
to regulate our lives, based upon junk science.

73,

S.L.

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| Soames123 wrote:
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| http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html
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| That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows, the
| earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
| life.
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| The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't even
| around for a lot of them.
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| It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys
| into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.
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| They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
| consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.
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| But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!
|
| Steve
| Holland, MI
| Drake R7, R8 and R8B
| "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©
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| http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm
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Old January 17th 04, 03:53 AM
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In article . net, "Stephen
M.H. Lawrence" writes:


The nutcases can't make up their minds, but are trying
to regulate our lives, based upon junk science.


Junk Science is all over; it sells magazines, so
don't believe everything yu read in Newsweek
the only truth is in " Myth Busters.."
and careful observation...

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Old January 17th 04, 06:27 AM
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Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.

There is some global warming, but it is NOT man-caused. See The Hockey Stick:

http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm

Bill, K5BY
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Old January 17th 04, 06:27 PM
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Bill [K5BY],

Thank You - Now I know the Difference between 'Scientific Facts'
and "SCIENTISM" when it comes to the Issue of Global Warming.

"The `Hockey Stick': A New Low in Climate Science"
- by John L. Daly
GoTo= http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm

NOTE: Have placed this on my RMR = Rapid Message Recall (RMR) List.

I now have the: "What About the 'Medieval Warm Period' and the
'Little Ice Age'"; as counter points to the 'Evironmental Wackos'
claims about Global Warming.

Plus being able to tell an 'Evironmental Wacko' making claims
about Global Warming:. "Have You been out in the Sun Too Long?
Do You have Sun Spots Imprinted on your Brain? Do You Know anything
about the 'Maunder Minimum' and diappearence of Sun Spots for 70
Years? Well Do You? Do You !"

But the Great Fun will be being able to say to them and repeating
these two words: "hockey sticks, Hockey Sticks. HOCKEY STICKS !"
while waving my arms about in the air and bulging my eyes out )


jftfoi ~ RHF
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Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.

There is some global warming, but it is NOT man-caused.
See The Hockey Stick:

http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm

Bill, K5BY

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Old January 17th 04, 03:57 AM
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N8KDV wrote:

The historical and geological records bear this out.



Steve:
Was that pun intended? hehe

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Old January 17th 04, 12:59 PM
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Brian Denley wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

The historical and geological records bear this out.


Steve:
Was that pun intended? hehe


No, but it did work out nicely though. :-)



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Old January 17th 04, 09:50 PM
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"N8KDV" wrote in message
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Soames123 wrote:

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html


That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows,

the
earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
life.

The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't

even
around for a lot of them.

It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really

buys
into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.

They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


It amazes me that so many apparently quite intelligent people can
completely embrace the idea of greenhouse gas emissions having no
effect at all on the global climate.
Variations occur naturally over time; that has never been in
dispute. However, the physical properties of CO2 are very well known,
and we're adding a lot to the atmosphere every year.
It would be nice if some natural process is cancelling out the
effects of all that extra CO2. I hope it is, for our sake, but having
a closed mind to the issue isn't going to make it go away.

Anyway, does anyone know if higher average temperatures will have
any effect on shortwave propagation? Or other frequencies, like
Sporadic 'E' in the summer?


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Ian Smith wrote:

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Soames123 wrote:

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html


That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows,

the
earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
life.

The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't

even
around for a lot of them.

It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really

buys
into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.

They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!


It amazes me that so many apparently quite intelligent people can
completely embrace the idea of greenhouse gas emissions having no
effect at all on the global climate.


Well, from this we can ascertain that the wearing of a tin-foil hat in no
way cuts down on an individuals ability to experience amazement.


Variations occur naturally over time; that has never been in
dispute. However, the physical properties of CO2 are very well known,
and we're adding a lot to the atmosphere every year.
It would be nice if some natural process is cancelling out the
effects of all that extra CO2. I hope it is, for our sake, but having
a closed mind to the issue isn't going to make it go away.


Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any painted
in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look?

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


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"N8KDV" wrote in message
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Ian Smith wrote:

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Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any

painted
in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look?

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


In fact, scientific knowledge forms the basis of our modern
civilisation. All that technology we conveniently use in our everyday
lives (including your shortwave radio gear) is the result of
scientific research.
You can't dismiss one complete branch of science without
dismissing it all (and going to live in a cave), because that would
make you a hypocrite.
Strange questions about tin-foil hats are unacceptable as a means
of persuading other people to change their minds about the causes of
global warming. This does your case no good at all. I would have
thought that to be self-evident.
Good DX my friend.

Ian, Renfrew, Scotland.


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Ian Smith wrote:

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Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any

painted
in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look?

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


In fact, scientific knowledge forms the basis of our modern
civilisation. All that technology we conveniently use in our everyday
lives (including your shortwave radio gear) is the result of
scientific research.
You can't dismiss one complete branch of science without
dismissing it all (and going to live in a cave), because that would
make you a hypocrite.
Strange questions about tin-foil hats are unacceptable as a means
of persuading other people to change their minds about the causes of
global warming. This does your case no good at all. I would have
thought that to be self-evident.
Good DX my friend.

Ian, Renfrew, Scotland.


Tin-foil hats or not, what you fail to see is that my case is sound,
while yours is flawed... get over it. :-)




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