Thin Ice !!
 

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html

Soames123 wrote:

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That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows, the
earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
life.

The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't even
around for a lot of them.

It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys
into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.

They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!

Steve
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huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

Ok;
what's your source for
Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.


It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys
into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.

They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

"Soames123" wrote in message
...
huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

Ok;
what's your source for
Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.

They have been taking ice core samples for years in Antartica and up north
and in those sample are time line evidence that go back thousands of years
showing these warming trends. Its common knowledge in the scientific and
educated community. I think Japan has extensive research in this field going
on right now. Don't you ever watch the Discovery channel or TLC. Sheesh!

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Say Cuss,
Just because they took your "tin Hat" away you don't have to look/say
pointed things at the rest of us!!!

Cousin Burr

N8KDV wrote:

Soames123 wrote:


http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html


That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows, the
earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
life.

The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't even
around for a lot of them.

It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys
into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.

They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.

But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I can remember the (in)famous Newsweek cover
which read, in bold print, something along the lines of:

"THE COMING ICE AGE."

The nutcases can't make up their minds, but are trying
to regulate our lives, based upon junk science.

73,

S.L.

"N8KDV" wrote in message
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|
|
| Soames123 wrote:
|
| http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/...re2/index.html
|
| That's all quite interesting, but as most any educated person knows, the
| earth has had warm spells and cold spells off and on throughout its
| life.
|
| The historical and geological records bear this out. And man wasn't even
| around for a lot of them.
|
| It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys
| into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence.
|
| They are easy prey for the huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
| consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.
|
| But hey! Don't lose any sleep over it!
|
| Steve
| Holland, MI
| Drake R7, R8 and R8B
| "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©
|
| http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm
|


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"Soames123" wrote:

| Ok;
| what's your source for
| Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.

October 22, 2002


U.S. Facts vs. U.N. 'Science'
by Patrick J. Michaels

Patrick J. Michaels is senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato
Institute and author of "The Satanic Gases."

This is getting repetitious. Once again, the United States stands alone
against a United Nations determined to impose its view of disastrous climate
change. And, once again, the U.N. threatens economic annihilation if we
don't go along. They call America's action "Unilateralism." But let's call
it by its real name: "common sense."

This time it concerns the insurance industry. On Oct. 7-not coincidentally
just a few days after the American hurricane season reaches its peak-the
U.N.'s Climate Change Working Group released a report called "Climate Change
and the Financial Services Industry." The predictable bottom line: Climate
Change has the potential to destroy the insurance industry, so, America,
please get in line with our view of climate change.

This kind of stuff comes from the top. U.N. General Secretary Kofi Annan
keeps criticizing our reluctance to adopt the scientifically discredited
Kyoto Protocol. In a recent op-ed in the Washington Post that was his number
one demand.

But the U.N.'s new report goes Annan one further. While finally admitting
that Kyoto won't do much about the planet's climate, the report then demands
more and more and more Kyotos, in agreement with scientists in the Clinton
administration who estimated that we need about 19 Kyotos to stop warming.
One Kyoto costs, conservatively, 2 percent of our GDP per year. Nineteen?
Don't go there, unless you're the U.N.

Specifically, the new U.N. report projects that, as a result of climate
change leading to more frequent and severe storms, along with demographic
changes (read: more people able to afford more expensive beach houses)
worldwide insurance losses will total an additional $150 billion in the next
decade. They trot out an impressive graph showing dramatic increases in
damage costs in recent years.

What isn't apparent, except to anyone reading the fine print, is that this
figure lists damages from all "natural causes," and that most of the recent
increase is from two big earthquakes (1994 and 1995). While our greener
friends like to blame many oddities on global warming, no one is crazy
enough to say that it causes earthquakes.

Big European reinsurers (the people who insure the insurance companies),
like Swiss Re and Munich Re, have been singing the climate change dirge for
years. It forms a convincing argument for raising their rates, and their
pro-Kyoto (read: anti U.S.) governments are only too happy to nod in
agreement.

By far, the biggest producer of weather-related damage is the hurricane, and
the largest exposure, in terms of insured property value, is the United
States east coast, where the insured value is roughly the same as our annual
gross domestic product. Further, damage costs appear to be going up. So, if
the U.N. is right, the number or severity of hurricanes should be increasing
dramatically.

It's not. There's no trend at all in the number of these storms striking the
United States. In fact, the 1990s appear to be especially hurricane-poor.
It's also well known to hurricane scientists that the average maximum
recorded winds have been declining for the last half-century.

The new U.N. document is so brazen that it contravenes another U.N. body,
the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In its latest compendium on
the subject, called the "Third Assessment Report," which it likes to call
the "consensus of scientists" (it's really the "consensus of scientists
picked by the U.N."), says:

"There is little sign of long-term changes in tropical storm intensity and
frequency," and "[r]ecent analyses of changes in severe local weather
(tornadoes, thunder days, lightning and hail) in a few selected regions
provide no compelling evidence for widespread systematic long-term changes."

As for the future, the U.N. climate report says that its climate models show
no systematic changes in these storms.

While Munich Re, Swiss Re, and the U.N. Climate Change Working Group shill
for a mutually interested, if falsified, climate apocalypse, who isn't
surprised that Americans have a different idea?

Let's guess that there really is a free market here, and that U.S. insurers
can choose between Munich Re, with rates artificially kited by fears of
worsening climate, and some American reinsurer, whose rates are predicated
on constant climate with increasing property values. Munich Re would
advertise its product as more reliable, with assurance that it can survive
our increasingly harsh climate. The Americans will be much less expensive.
Given the facts, which would you choose?

Let's predict that global warming hype isn't going to put American
reinsurers out of business, but that it could be very harmful to the
economic well-being of their European competitors. Hurray for American
"Unilateralism."



Care to rebut that, you putz?

73,

S.L.


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Take the Pierry - Riese (sp?) map of Antarctica as an example.

73,

S.L.


"Brian Hill" brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote in message
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|
| "Soames123" wrote in message
| ...
| huxters, who fleece them whilst they are
| consumed by their ignorance of simple concepts.
|
| Ok;
| what's your source for
| Not a trace of Info supporting Global Warming.
|
| They have been taking ice core samples for years in Antartica and up north
| and in those sample are time line evidence that go back thousands of years
| showing these warming trends. Its common knowledge in the scientific and
| educated community. I think Japan has extensive research in this field
going
| on right now. Don't you ever watch the Discovery channel or TLC. Sheesh!
|
| --
| 73 and good DXing
| RX:
| R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28
| Ant:
| 100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole
|
| Brian's Radio Universe
| http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/
|
|
|


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In article . net, "Stephen
M.H. Lawrence" writes:


The nutcases can't make up their minds, but are trying
to regulate our lives, based upon junk science.


Junk Science is all over; it sells magazines, so
don't believe everything yu read in Newsweek
the only truth is in " Myth Busters.."
and careful observation...

-

N8KDV wrote:

The historical and geological records bear this out.


Steve:
Was that pun intended? hehe

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