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In article , "Ian Smith"
writes: It amazes me that so many apparently quite intelligent people can completely embrace the idea of greenhouse gas emissions having no effect at all on the global climate. Not at all ! You can take a hypotheses, then run right out and find evidence to prove your beilefe; - Look at the " OJ Jury " - Didn't want to believe he was guilty, so they found the evidence that went along with their belief. & then called everyone else " Prejudiced ". Nobel winning scientists are repeatedly bamboozled by Hucksters, Frauds, sleight of hand artists; Happens all de time ! Variations occur naturally over time; that has never been in dispute. However, the physical properties of CO2 are very well known, and we're adding a lot to the atmosphere every year. An interesting Idea: - Ocean's general warming trend is killing off Coral, which usually absorbs & Builds calcium Carbonate exoskeletons; - But with the corals dying out, from their environment warming slightly, the C02 the coral would have absorbed is still in solution in ocean water, absorbing heat from the sun ( etc) slightly expanding the volume of the Ocean, hence Slightly raising sea levels.. ( ! ! ! ) It would be nice if some natural process is cancelling out the effects of all that extra CO2. I hope it is, for our sake, but having a closed mind to the issue isn't going to make it go away. Anyway, does anyone know if higher average temperatures will have any effect on shortwave propagation? Or other frequencies, like Sporadic 'E' in the summer? Now; if the overall atmosphere Does warm by a slight amount, it will expand in volume ( right ?? ) - So we might surmise that the upper parts of the atmosphere would be displaced Upwards.. accelerating the decay of low earth orbit satellites; and possibly raising the absolute elevation of the Ionospheres reflective layers.. not a " 1 + 1+1 = 3 " or Correlation = Causality but - an interesting Idea... Dan |
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It is my understanding that by the year 2020 the actual majority of the so called Global Warming "Green House Gases" will be generated by three countries: China, India and Indonesia. NOT from the Automobiles or Power Plants in the USofA but simply from the common people of those countries burning carbon fuels to heat their homes and cook their food. People Gota Live... Or would you suggest that we start with THOSE PEOPLE ! * Shall They Freeze ? * Shall They Starve ? * Shall They Simply Be Eliminated ? All in the 'name' of "Protecting the Planet" from People ! Got My 'Inverted "CK" Antenna' On ~ RHF .. .. = = = "Ian Smith" = = = wrote in message ... It amazes me that so many apparently quite intelligent people can completely embrace the idea of greenhouse gas emissions having no effect at all on the global climate. Variations occur naturally over time; that has never been in dispute. However, the physical properties of CO2 are very well known, and we're adding a lot to the atmosphere every year. It would be nice if some natural process is cancelling out the effects of all that extra CO2. I hope it is, for our sake, but having a closed mind to the issue isn't going to make it go away. Anyway, does anyone know if higher average temperatures will have any effect on shortwave propagation? Or other frequencies, like Sporadic 'E' in the summer? .. .. |
"N8KDV" wrote in message
... Ian Smith wrote: "N8KDV" wrote in message snipped Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any painted in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B In fact, scientific knowledge forms the basis of our modern civilisation. All that technology we conveniently use in our everyday lives (including your shortwave radio gear) is the result of scientific research. You can't dismiss one complete branch of science without dismissing it all (and going to live in a cave), because that would make you a hypocrite. Strange questions about tin-foil hats are unacceptable as a means of persuading other people to change their minds about the causes of global warming. This does your case no good at all. I would have thought that to be self-evident. Good DX my friend. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. |
Ian Smith wrote: "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Ian Smith wrote: "N8KDV" wrote in message snipped Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any painted in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B In fact, scientific knowledge forms the basis of our modern civilisation. All that technology we conveniently use in our everyday lives (including your shortwave radio gear) is the result of scientific research. You can't dismiss one complete branch of science without dismissing it all (and going to live in a cave), because that would make you a hypocrite. Strange questions about tin-foil hats are unacceptable as a means of persuading other people to change their minds about the causes of global warming. This does your case no good at all. I would have thought that to be self-evident. Good DX my friend. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. Tin-foil hats or not, what you fail to see is that my case is sound, while yours is flawed... get over it. :-) |
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In article , "Brenda Ann"
writes: Subject: (OT) Thin Ice !! From: "Brenda Ann" Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:31:42 +0900 "Diverd4777" wrote in message ... In article , (J999w) writes: It is only the uneducated public (tin foil hat crowd) that really buys into Global Warming as a truly manmade occurrence. Hmmm. Which is colder ... the city or the woods? Are the cities expanding, or shrinking? Think about it. jw wb9uai Hmm... Well I've seen on TV woods catch fire & burn down & this process generates lots of heat. : So maybe we should take a tip from our forward thinking freinds in Brazil, Indonesia and Africa And just burn down all the forests. ! We could then Put in tract housing, with beautiful Blue Swimming pools Swimming Pools don't burn. : - So that would take care of the problem of the woods burning down & generating heat ! : This being true, Cities generate less heat than the woods : There would be more cities than woods So the earth would cool down Go into an Ice age & freezing all the Swimming Pools... .. Which wouldn't matter a whit, since we would have long since run out of oxygen to breath, and would be dead.. leaving only the cockroaches left to enjoy the swimming pools anyway.. :) - But Brenda, If you Heat all the swimming pools, then they would release the gases trapped in solution ! part of these gases is Oxygen, - so By heating the swimming Pools We'd all have air to breath! : ( & THEN we could go after the cockeroaches ! ! ! ) |
"N8KDV" wrote in message
... Ian Smith wrote: "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Ian Smith wrote: "N8KDV" wrote in message snipped Questions: Do you have just one tin-foil hat or several? Are any painted in pretty colours, or do you prefer the natural look? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B In fact, scientific knowledge forms the basis of our modern civilisation. All that technology we conveniently use in our everyday lives (including your shortwave radio gear) is the result of scientific research. You can't dismiss one complete branch of science without dismissing it all (and going to live in a cave), because that would make you a hypocrite. Strange questions about tin-foil hats are unacceptable as a means of persuading other people to change their minds about the causes of global warming. This does your case no good at all. I would have thought that to be self-evident. Good DX my friend. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. Tin-foil hats or not, what you fail to see is that my case is sound, while yours is flawed... get over it. :-) Denying the well-known physical properties of CO2 as a greenhouse gas hardly soundifies your case. But I see no reason to hold any grudges, and will continue to read your other posts with interest. regards, Ian |
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