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Old January 18th 04, 06:43 PM
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I've been thinking about removing some speakers stacks I use. One I used for
the 140X and the other for the 129X, at first I really liked the sound. But
since I picked up a pair of some discontinued Radio Shack Amplified Speakers
(cat#40-1361) last summer at a garage sale for like ten dollars, I've kind of
been thinking about asking the group it's opinion and what it is they use or
what would they do if they were me? **No smart a** comments** ;-)

Those amplified ones are hooked to the DX394, actually I stopped listening to
that piece becasue of the sound, I tried my stacks that are hooked to my
Hammarlunds, but that didn't do it. Tried other combos and that stock speaker
absolutely is a crime that they even put it in there, really. But these
amplified ones take four c batteries and are 'extremely' heavy for two
speakers, I couldn't believe it, I felt like I stole them from that woman.
But it has made the 394 "come back to life." :-)

But between those and switching speakers on my scanner (BC9000XLT).....I used
to use the stock but it sucks plus the way I have it configured I had to use an
extension speaker. I went with the Rat Shack external speaker, I figured it
was good enough. But the other day I was cleaning out the closet in the radio
room ( I highly recommend it to everyone) I found stuff I forgot I even had
and actually some things that I don't remember where or who I got them from.

But I came up on a pair of *Aiwa* speakers that were used 'stock' ---pretty
sure in an Ford Taurus. I did a little cutting and soldering and baddabing, I
now have that one speaker hooked to the 9000 and WOW what a difference. On the
back of the speaker it says 40w with an 8 impedance. But I'm gonna keep that
setup.

Should I use the other one for one of my Hammarlunds? I KNOW there is more
than enough in one of those HQ's to drive one of those Aiwas, or would it
sound like sh*t? I just think that the speaker/speakers I have now run into
the Hammarlunds are too much and not really getting to *drive* them to their
full potential.

I'm no audiophile, and I know there is a few in here so I bow to the *sound
Gods* on this one. Like on Steve's setup with his Drake, I saw his modest
speaker. What about you Brian? You have some boatanchors like I do.
Shouldn't I go smaller and get the most out of the speaker or a lot of speaker
without it reaching it's potential.

**Sorry for the longer than usual post, looking forward to many replies.

Thanks,
DX
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Old January 18th 04, 07:22 PM
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On 18 Jan 2004 18:43:37 GMT, (Dxluver) wrote:

I've been thinking about removing some speakers stacks I use. One I used for
the 140X and the other for the 129X, at first I really liked the sound. But
since I picked up a pair of some discontinued Radio Shack Amplified Speakers
(cat#40-1361) last summer at a garage sale for like ten dollars, I've kind of
been thinking about asking the group it's opinion and what it is they use or
what would they do if they were me? **No smart a** comments** ;-)

snip

Should I use the other one for one of my Hammarlunds? I KNOW there is more
than enough in one of those HQ's to drive one of those Aiwas, or would it
sound like sh*t? I just think that the speaker/speakers I have now run into
the Hammarlunds are too much and not really getting to *drive* them to their
full potential.

I'm no audiophile, and I know there is a few in here so I bow to the *sound
Gods* on this one. Like on Steve's setup with his Drake, I saw his modest
speaker. What about you Brian? You have some boatanchors like I do.
Shouldn't I go smaller and get the most out of the speaker or a lot of speaker
without it reaching it's potential.

**Sorry for the longer than usual post, looking forward to many replies.

Thanks,
DX


DX,
While not a boatanchor owner I will share what I found when needing an
external speaker for an R75 (yes, with an R75 an external speaker is a
MUST). Tried a 4" RatShack widerange speaker (Optimus XTS 3, 7 watt
max) and it was okay; definitely enough powerr to drive and it gave
sufficient volume & clarity, mostly mid-range with moderately more
bass response than treble. Then for kicks hooked to a KLH 911 (5 inch
woofer, 1 inch tweeter, 100 watt max) and WOW! Yes, the speaker is
capable of handling much more power than the R75 offers but there was
sufficient power to drive it without having to crank up the audio.
The sound clarity was greatly improved and unless the bands are really
noisy most folks who hear it don't realize they're listening to
shortwave - "Naah, it sounds to good to come from far away" 8-} Do
keep in mind that the answer to this will vary depending on the
speaker; some just plain like to "suck watts" in order to get their
cones moving.

To answer your question, should you use what you put together with
your other HQ's, my best advise is to hook one up and judge the sound
quality yourself. Not trying to be flippant, but your ears know what
sounds good to them and you'll know by where you have to set your
volume if you're have enough power to drive it. I like to keep my
volume settings no higher than about a third of the maximum so the
amplifiers are running "where they are happier" as there tends to be
less distortion.

Hope this helps, and I too am looking forward to what others have
found.

Howard

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Old January 18th 04, 07:58 PM
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My old Sony boombox died, but the speakers were fine, so I kept them. Using
an audio switch box, I can switch between the receiver, the television, the
vcr or the dvd as sound sources, so I can use the speakers for my dx394, and
it works very well. I had to set things up such that the dx394 could use the
speakers without using the component stereo system I have. With the
component system running, the receiver gets wiped out with RF, so I don't
use the amp with the receiver. It lacks bass, but it sound infinitely better
than what is provided in the receiver itself. The Sony speakers are about 3
inches diameter, so they do provide excellent sound quality, but it is
better than the receiver alone. Boom boxes I have looked at lack an
auxilliary input to allow you to use the amplifier, so if I were to upgrade,
I'd have to spend some money for a real stereo.

"Howard" wrote in message
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On 18 Jan 2004 18:43:37 GMT, (Dxluver) wrote:

I've been thinking about removing some speakers stacks I use. One I used

for
the 140X and the other for the 129X, at first I really liked the sound.

But
since I picked up a pair of some discontinued Radio Shack Amplified

Speakers
(cat#40-1361) last summer at a garage sale for like ten dollars, I've

kind of
been thinking about asking the group it's opinion and what it is they use

or
what would they do if they were me? **No smart a** comments** ;-)

snip

Should I use the other one for one of my Hammarlunds? I KNOW there is

more
than enough in one of those HQ's to drive one of those Aiwas, or would

it
sound like sh*t? I just think that the speaker/speakers I have now run

into
the Hammarlunds are too much and not really getting to *drive* them to

their
full potential.

I'm no audiophile, and I know there is a few in here so I bow to the

*sound
Gods* on this one. Like on Steve's setup with his Drake, I saw his

modest
speaker. What about you Brian? You have some boatanchors like I do.
Shouldn't I go smaller and get the most out of the speaker or a lot of

speaker
without it reaching it's potential.

**Sorry for the longer than usual post, looking forward to many replies.

Thanks,
DX


DX,
While not a boatanchor owner I will share what I found when needing an
external speaker for an R75 (yes, with an R75 an external speaker is a
MUST). Tried a 4" RatShack widerange speaker (Optimus XTS 3, 7 watt
max) and it was okay; definitely enough powerr to drive and it gave
sufficient volume & clarity, mostly mid-range with moderately more
bass response than treble. Then for kicks hooked to a KLH 911 (5 inch
woofer, 1 inch tweeter, 100 watt max) and WOW! Yes, the speaker is
capable of handling much more power than the R75 offers but there was
sufficient power to drive it without having to crank up the audio.
The sound clarity was greatly improved and unless the bands are really
noisy most folks who hear it don't realize they're listening to
shortwave - "Naah, it sounds to good to come from far away" 8-} Do
keep in mind that the answer to this will vary depending on the
speaker; some just plain like to "suck watts" in order to get their
cones moving.

To answer your question, should you use what you put together with
your other HQ's, my best advise is to hook one up and judge the sound
quality yourself. Not trying to be flippant, but your ears know what
sounds good to them and you'll know by where you have to set your
volume if you're have enough power to drive it. I like to keep my
volume settings no higher than about a third of the maximum so the
amplifiers are running "where they are happier" as there tends to be
less distortion.

Hope this helps, and I too am looking forward to what others have
found.

Howard



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Old January 18th 04, 10:20 PM
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Howard wrote:

DX,
While not a boatanchor owner I will share what I found when needing an
external speaker for an R75 (yes, with an R75 an external speaker is a
MUST). Tried a 4" RatShack widerange speaker (Optimus XTS 3, 7 watt
max) and it was okay; definitely enough powerr to drive and it gave
sufficient volume & clarity, mostly mid-range with moderately more
bass response than treble. Then for kicks hooked to a KLH 911 (5 inch
woofer, 1 inch tweeter, 100 watt max) and WOW! Yes, the speaker is
capable of handling much more power than the R75 offers but there was
sufficient power to drive it without having to crank up the audio.
The sound clarity was greatly improved and unless the bands are really
noisy most folks who hear it don't realize they're listening to
shortwave - "Naah, it sounds to good to come from far away" 8-} Do
keep in mind that the answer to this will vary depending on the
speaker; some just plain like to "suck watts" in order to get their
cones moving.


Has anyone found a good replacement speaker for the OEM one in the R75?
What size is the original one?


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Howard wrote:


Has anyone found a good replacement speaker for the OEM one in the R75?
What size is the original one?



I use the RCA 40-5000, that rectangular "black box" with the black
steel-mesh grille that Radio Shack has sold forever under one name or
another. Works fine. Think I paid $19.00 for it.

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I use the RCA 40-5000, that rectangular "black box" with the black
steel-mesh grille that Radio Shack has sold forever under one name or
another. Works fine. Think I paid $19.00 for it.


Oh really?

Sounds like that one link I saw that selld these shortwave/scanner/cb
speakers.......they're pretty nice. I guess you don't need BIG for good sound.
:-)
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Old January 21st 04, 12:15 AM
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I use the RCA 40-5000, that rectangular "black box" with the black
steel-mesh grille that Radio Shack has sold forever under one name or
another


Tony,
Is that the cat#?
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Old January 22nd 04, 02:53 AM
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STARMAN,

"Has anyone found a good replacement speaker for the OEM
one in the R75? What size is the original one?"

NOTE: The Icom IC-R75's 'exterior' Speaker Grill is
very small and ONLY Measures 1.75" Wide by 2.25" High.

My "Guess-A-Mate" is the Speaker is basic 1.5" Round.

! ! ! SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ! ! !


Well, NOT a Replacement 'internal' Speaker but here is a
List of the 'better' low cost External Speakers.

READ Message #4360 in the "Icom IC-R75" eGroup on YAHOO !

SPEAKERS: External Speakers for the ICOM IC-R75

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/message/4360

Most Often Recommended External Speakers for the Icom IC-R75.
That were Suggested as working well with the Icom IC-R75 by
the Members of the YAHOO eGroup.


hth ~ RHF
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= = = starman
= = = wrote in message ...
Howard wrote:

DX,
While not a boatanchor owner I will share what I found when needing an
external speaker for an R75 (yes, with an R75 an external speaker is a
MUST). Tried a 4" RatShack widerange speaker (Optimus XTS 3, 7 watt
max) and it was okay; definitely enough powerr to drive and it gave
sufficient volume & clarity, mostly mid-range with moderately more
bass response than treble. Then for kicks hooked to a KLH 911 (5 inch
woofer, 1 inch tweeter, 100 watt max) and WOW! Yes, the speaker is
capable of handling much more power than the R75 offers but there was
sufficient power to drive it without having to crank up the audio.
The sound clarity was greatly improved and unless the bands are really
noisy most folks who hear it don't realize they're listening to
shortwave - "Naah, it sounds to good to come from far away" 8-} Do
keep in mind that the answer to this will vary depending on the
speaker; some just plain like to "suck watts" in order to get their
cones moving.


Has anyone found a good replacement speaker for the OEM one in the R75?
What size is the original one?

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Old January 22nd 04, 03:18 AM
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NOTE: The Icom IC-R75's 'exterior' Speaker Grill is
very small and ONLY Measures 1.75" Wide by 2.25" High.
READ Message #4360 in the "Icom IC-R75" eGroup on YAHOO !


I would be tempted to modify the R75 speaker grill and install a better
internal speaker.


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Old January 22nd 04, 12:00 PM
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STARMAN,

NP2 = Not Practical -and/or- Not Possible

Due to the Icom IC-R75's Layout and Construction the
(built-in) Internal 1.5" Speaker: Is What It Is [.]

FWIW: A Modification that 'added' an Internal Speaker
under the Top Cover may be possible and practical.

But, the 'better' "Option" with the Icom IC-R75 is
simply using an External Speaker that's style and
color matches the appearance of the Icom IC-R75.

jm2cw ~ RHF
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NOTE: The Icom IC-R75's 'exterior' Speaker Grill is
very small and ONLY Measures 1.75" Wide by 2.25" High.
READ Message #4360 in the "Icom IC-R75" eGroup on YAHOO !


I would be tempted to modify the R75 speaker grill and install a better
internal speaker.

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