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Is shortwave a good alternative to cable TV?
Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two
local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
Yeah, sure, dump your Cable & go Shortwave....
I mean, are you really gonna miss home Shopping Network ? ? Theres lots of good stuff on SWR; Look at Sony 7600, YB400 and Sangean 505A for starters.. AND as far as " other "TV stations, try put up a Second / 3rd. 4rth antenna & hooking them together..; & see what you can pick up ! ! Dan In article , writes: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
On 11 Feb 2004 15:25:28 GMT, (Diverd4777) wrote:
I mean, are you really gonna miss home Shopping Network ? ? No! Not at all! |
me6, get thyself a Winegard outdoor antenna-n-rotor, to help expand your
terrestrial signal choices! Never having cable, BBC's World Service Multi-Track music series helped this hipster through empty-tv's early video era! If ya need to see cable programing, like pay-per-view fights, "that's what friends are for"! |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:21:05 -0800, "Tom Sevart"
wrote: He might miss those wonderful late-night infomercials, though... I mean, where else can you learn to make millions by placing classified ads or buying real estate? You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? So is there some good programming available to listen to on shortwave? |
wrote in message ... Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Get a Dish Network or Direct TV system. I pay $24 per month for 200+ channels. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while I am doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? Domestic Shortwave Radio is full of 3 things: Jeezoids, Jokers and Jake-the-Fakes. Foreign shortwave is informative but remember that 50+ percent of what you'll hear will be the crap of Brother Stair and Alex Jones, with a smattering of crooks who hawk overpriced gold coins of questionable pedigree and water filtration devices that don't work worth a damm. Keep these in mind and find a used shortwave at a yard sale or on e-Bay. Sangean radios are very good as are some of the (now-discontinued) Radio Shack models. |
YES! there is good programming to listen to on Shortwave;
Mostly ( IMHO) afternoon & night... - Whats your Budget..?? How much can you spend to try it out.. Subject: Is shortwave a good alternative to cable TV? From: Date: 2/11/2004 11:34 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:21:05 -0800, "Tom Sevart" wrote: He might miss those wonderful late-night infomercials, though... I mean, where else can you learn to make millions by placing classified ads or buying real estate? You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? So is there some good programming available to listen to on shortwave? |
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/rx_curr.html
Has reviews of most of the popular SWL Radios. Also eHam.com has reviews. http://www.eham.net/reviews/products/8 Lots of junk on Short Wave -- sorry to say -- but some good (and bad) perspectives from other countries news casts -- Incognito By Necessity (:-( If you can't convince them, confuse them. - - -Harry S Truman One May Know Of The Whole World Without Leaving The Shelter Of Their Own Home -- Lao-Tse - 500 BC --------------------------------------- Someone wrote in message ... Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while I am doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
"Diverd4777" wrote in message ... Yeah, sure, dump your Cable & go Shortwave.... I mean, are you really gonna miss home Shopping Network ? ? He might miss those wonderful late-night infomercials, though... I mean, where else can you learn to make millions by placing classified ads or buying real estate? You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? Tom |
wrote in message ... Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Shortwave demands more listener involvement than standard AM and FM broadcasting. The transmission schedules are shorter and the reception isn't as depandable. Listeners have to retune their radios more frequently. Broadcast AM and FM and recorded music are more reliable sources for entertainment. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Depends what's meant by interesting. There aren't any sitcoms like TV. There's not much music like broadcast radio. International broadcast stations oftentimes discuss world news and events and what wonderful tourist attractions are to be found in their countries. Most domestic US shortwave stations are dominated by low cost brokered programming. Conspiracy theorists, evangalists, sellers of vital doomsday supplies such as gold, water filters, and nostrums. If you enjoyed the X-Files, you may enjoy domestic shortwave radio. Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? Don't spend alot on your first SW radio. Buy a good radio when you're sure you'll enjoy the hobby. Frank Dresser |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:54:04 -0500, N8KDV
wrote: Sounds to me like you may be more interested in one of those XM or Sirius radios. (Radio via Satelite) No....Im looking for something that doesn't cost.....thats why Im dumping cable TV.....trying to cut expenses |
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My two cents worth s. Yes. The problem is that you cannot guarantee
reception or that the signal will be intelligible - that is up to Mother Nature. Many major broadcasters are in countries that used to have colonies, and they broadcast to those former colonies with news and features of interest to them, and we can hear some of those transmissions evenif they are not beamed directly at us. France, Holland, Germany, Spain, Portugal all broadcast in myriads of languages to their former colonies or even to area of the US or other places where they may have citizens listening. Our own Voice of America has news that you may not hear about on the PM TV news, even if it is their own propoganda g. Whether you can understand the language of a particular broadcast, you can certainly enjoy a variety of good music. I like Radio New Zealand International of late 9.870 09:00 PST (17:00 UTC), and Radio Nacional Da Amazonia has good music 11.780 late afternoons. Maximus "Chandler7600" wrote in message ... YES! there is good programming to listen to on Shortwave; Mostly ( IMHO) afternoon & night... - Whats your Budget..?? How much can you spend to try it out.. Subject: Is shortwave a good alternative to cable TV? From: Date: 2/11/2004 11:34 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:21:05 -0800, "Tom Sevart" wrote: He might miss those wonderful late-night infomercials, though... I mean, where else can you learn to make millions by placing classified ads or buying real estate? You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? So is there some good programming available to listen to on shortwave? |
Hey Me6... - Looky here ! http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/1101.html Double reduction Shortwave Radio fer $ 100 Digital, 50 memories; Good reviews at www.radiointel.com Hook it up to Headphones & a 30 foot random wire antenna & yer all set! Subject: Is shortwave a good alternative to cable TV? From: Date: 2/11/2004 1:49 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: On 11 Feb 2004 17:48:47 GMT, (Chandler7600) wrote: YES! there is good programming to listen to on Shortwave; Mostly ( IMHO) afternoon & night... OK...but like what? What type of stuff is on? Is it sort of like the WWII radio era in America? Lost of radio talk shows.... radio drama? Like old time radio was in USA? - Whats your Budget..?? How much can you spend to try it out.. Under $100? Don't wanna spend much until I see if the idea is feasible. |
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Diverd4777 wrote:
Yeah, sure, dump your Cable & go Shortwave.... I mean, are you really gonna miss home Shopping Network ? ? Have you looked at how expensive cable is lately? And I bet he's only got one cable provider so they probably charge highway robbery rates. And what do they give you for your arm and leg-six home shopping channels and ten movie channels? Theres lots of good stuff on SWR; Look at Sony 7600, YB400 and Sangean 505A for starters.. Since it sounds like he's in a rather remote location, he may want to splurge for a used tabletop and a good outside antenna. AND as far as " other "TV stations, try put up a Second / 3rd. 4rth antenna & hooking them together..; & see what you can pick up ! ! Honestly, I don't watch too much TV except for local news. I get all my international news from SW. Dan In article , writes: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
Today, you have many alternatives to
TV including web radio. I've not owned a TV for over 10 years. *********************************** * Tom Welch * * HP Pavilion, Real Player, * * Henry Kloss Model One Radio, * * Kaito 1102, DX-399, Sony SRF-59,* * Sangean DT-200V, Grundig Mini * * World 200, Koss SportaPro * *********************************** |
I actually had the same idea, and I did try it for a while.
I didn't miss the junk on TV, but I did miss the history, documentary, classic movies and other similar channels. I don't think there is enough on shortwave that you can listen to regularly and consistently. In fact, these days, much of shortwave seems to be the radio equivalent of junk TV. It's only of interest as a hobby, trying to see what you can pick up and for how long. For normal radio listening instead of TV, I would be lost without the CBC (regular FM in Canada, not shortwave). I occasionally catch something on world band that's interesting to listen to, but in practice, most of my international listening happens during late night hours when the regular CBC relays international SW broadcasters from Britain, France, Australia, Poland, Radio Netherlands, Deutsche Welle, etc., or AM radio from the US which is easily heard most nights. If you want to listen to infomercials, religious broadcasting, right wing crackpots, etc., there's plenty of that on SW that is easy to pick up and can be listened to during the daytime for hours on end. Now, if you have a public broadcaster where you live, and other serious programming on AM or FM radio, and you listen to that with some shortwave thrown in, it might be a viable thing to do instead of watching TV. That's not to say that listening to shortwave isn't an interesting hobby. I love it. But it's not exactly something you can just tune once, and then go about doing things around the house. Pierre wrote in message ... Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
Excellent choice. TV sucks, and it does more and more every day.
How about trying a R-9700 DX? That's a wonderful radio and the price is right. Mine came from China via air mail for $26 plus $20 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051 It has great sound and is very sensitive. FM and AM are good too. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't tune down to 9335 to hear North Korea in the middle of the night. But if they fire some missiles off at anybody I think it will be on the news most anywhere anyway. Oh and it doesn't have digital tuning, so you can tell you're near the frequency you want but you can't tell if you're right on it. Shortwave is noisy and sometimes fades a lot. This can drive people crazy, especially women. I like it though because you can hear nature. Plus if you live in the United States there's tons of religious stations with Southern accents. *vomit* What part of the world do you live in? Here on the west coast of the US, you don't hear cool things like the Voice of Turkey or Radio Cairo like you can in the eastern US. But you can hear Australia and New Zealand all night. Between 10 and midnight there isn't that much going on on shortwave unless you like Radio Havana. Now there's some low technology. Most anyone here will tell you, build yourself an antenna. It can just be a long wire outside to hook up to your radio. If you get the R-9700DX radio it comes with two wires you can use. Have fun and welcome. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0600, wrote: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
I already have a Kaito WRX911 (Tecsun something I forget) and I like it so
much I just ordered an R-9700DX a couple of days ago. It hasn't arrived yet, so I can't comment. I've had a number of digitally-tuned radios over the years, but I really don't like digital anything (the computer I'm typing this on is a necessary evil). Pushing buttons just was never like scanning the bands manually to see what's there, like in my younger days. I had a 7600GR I sold not long ago. Great radio in other ways, but what an exercise in frustration when you just want to scan the bands. Pierre "Altawaowr" wrote in message ... Excellent choice. TV sucks, and it does more and more every day. How about trying a R-9700 DX? That's a wonderful radio and the price is right. Mine came from China via air mail for $26 plus $20 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051 It has great sound and is very sensitive. FM and AM are good too. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't tune down to 9335 to hear North Korea in the middle of the night. But if they fire some missiles off at anybody I think it will be on the news most anywhere anyway. Oh and it doesn't have digital tuning, so you can tell you're near the frequency you want but you can't tell if you're right on it. Shortwave is noisy and sometimes fades a lot. This can drive people crazy, especially women. I like it though because you can hear nature. Plus if you live in the United States there's tons of religious stations with Southern accents. *vomit* What part of the world do you live in? Here on the west coast of the US, you don't hear cool things like the Voice of Turkey or Radio Cairo like you can in the eastern US. But you can hear Australia and New Zealand all night. Between 10 and midnight there isn't that much going on on shortwave unless you like Radio Havana. Now there's some low technology. Most anyone here will tell you, build yourself an antenna. It can just be a long wire outside to hook up to your radio. If you get the R-9700DX radio it comes with two wires you can use. Have fun and welcome. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0600, wrote: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
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The Kaito WRX911 is the perfect backpacking radio, buy it before REI
finds it, and sells it to you for $49 USD. It looks like their parent maker sells them for $8 USD in china. I'm still using the first pair of alkaline batteries i put in them and i must have played the thing now and then for almost a year. It's just a very simple and very sensitive radio. It's amazing what you can hear on it outside, holding it in your hand pointing it with just its little antenna in a deliberate direction. The WRX-911 has a nice speaker on it, it has a good 'bright' sound that is great for human speech. Speech is intelligible on that radio. FM isn't very selective, and there's no light for the bands but otherwise the thing is great. I think you'll like the R-9700 DX, it's got a nice amber dial light on it, and you can guess the frequency within 5-15 kHz, the bands are nice and wide. FM is more sensitive and selective. The speaker sounds nice but the 'bright' sound of the WRX911 makes speech on the WRX911 a little bit more intelligible. The R-9700 DX gets FM in stereo if it's a strong station. It has an antenna jack and it comes with both a wire and a roll-up antenna for travelling. If you don't care about stereo through headphones, you can get FM radio stations on it from some distance. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:58:07 -0500, "Pierre L" wrote: I already have a Kaito WRX911 (Tecsun something I forget) and I like it so much I just ordered an R-9700DX a couple of days ago. It hasn't arrived yet, so I can't comment. I've had a number of digitally-tuned radios over the years, but I really don't like digital anything (the computer I'm typing this on is a necessary evil). Pushing buttons just was never like scanning the bands manually to see what's there, like in my younger days. I had a 7600GR I sold not long ago. Great radio in other ways, but what an exercise in frustration when you just want to scan the bands. Pierre "Altawaowr" wrote in message .. . Excellent choice. TV sucks, and it does more and more every day. How about trying a R-9700 DX? That's a wonderful radio and the price is right. Mine came from China via air mail for $26 plus $20 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051 It has great sound and is very sensitive. FM and AM are good too. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't tune down to 9335 to hear North Korea in the middle of the night. But if they fire some missiles off at anybody I think it will be on the news most anywhere anyway. Oh and it doesn't have digital tuning, so you can tell you're near the frequency you want but you can't tell if you're right on it. Shortwave is noisy and sometimes fades a lot. This can drive people crazy, especially women. I like it though because you can hear nature. Plus if you live in the United States there's tons of religious stations with Southern accents. *vomit* What part of the world do you live in? Here on the west coast of the US, you don't hear cool things like the Voice of Turkey or Radio Cairo like you can in the eastern US. But you can hear Australia and New Zealand all night. Between 10 and midnight there isn't that much going on on shortwave unless you like Radio Havana. Now there's some low technology. Most anyone here will tell you, build yourself an antenna. It can just be a long wire outside to hook up to your radio. If you get the R-9700DX radio it comes with two wires you can use. Have fun and welcome. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0600, wrote: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
Tom Sevart wrote:
\ You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? Because they are caring, compassionate individuals who want to help people? They are so kind...they rent the lower cost night time hours just so they can pass the savings on to *US*. "Out of the High-Cost Time Slots To SAVE **SAVE** ***SAVE*** YOU MONEY!!!!" Gotta run..I think the delivery man is bringing my new Chia Pet grooming kit... mike It's actually a sicker world out there than I thought... http://www.google.ca/search?q=chia+p...e+Search&meta= -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \/ /\ \/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ ...Let the cat out to reply... |
Wow! You guys are right... I don't need TV -- I've got rec.radio.shortwave!
Great posts, guys. -- Stinger "m II" wrote in message news:uoDWb.60201$7Q1.24278@clgrps12... Tom Sevart wrote: \ You know, if those things really work, why don't they make money that way instead of trying to sell the idea to everyone else? Because they are caring, compassionate individuals who want to help people? They are so kind...they rent the lower cost night time hours just so they can pass the savings on to *US*. "Out of the High-Cost Time Slots To SAVE **SAVE** ***SAVE*** YOU MONEY!!!!" Gotta run..I think the delivery man is bringing my new Chia Pet grooming kit... mike It's actually a sicker world out there than I thought... http://www.google.ca/search?q=chia+p...&btnG=Google+S earch&meta= -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \/ /\ \/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ ...Let the cat out to reply... |
DiverD,
That's what I have Three (3) TV Antennas 'Stacked' on One Pole: [ Over-the-Air FREE TV ] # 1 = Bottom @ SF Sutro Tower (255*) RadioShack VU-75 Antenna Mounted at 22 Feet [ 18 Element Antenna - 50" Boom Length ] # 2 = Middle @ San Jose (145*) RadioShack VU-90 Antenna Mounted at 29 Feet [ 32 Element Antenna - 80" Boom Length ] # 3 = Top @ Sacramento (45* Plus 5* Tilt ) RadioShack VU-120 Antenna Mounted at 36 Feet [ 37 Element Antenna - 120" Boom Length ] CHANNELS - CALL SIGNS (NETWORK) Other Language: 2 - KTVU (FOX) * 3 - KCRA (NBC) 4 - KRON (IND) 5 - KPIX (CBS) * 6 - KVIE (PBS) 7 - KGO (ABC) * 8 - KSWB (NBC) 9 - KQED (PBS) * 10 - KXTV (ABC) 11 - KNTV (NBC) * 13 - KVOR (CBS) 14 - KDTV (UniVision) Spanish 20 - KBWB (WB) 26 - KTSF (IND) 32 - KMPT (DW-TV) English & German 36 - KICU (IND) 38 - KCNS (SAH) 44 - KBHK (UPN) 48 - KSTS (Tela Mundo /NBC) Spanish * 50 - KFTY (IND) 54 - KTEH (PBS / BBC-WS) 60 - KCSM-TV (PBS / BBC-WS /IHT-TV) 65 - KKPX (PAX) 66 - KSFS (UniVision) Spanish 68 - KTLN-TV (REL) Spanish * NOTE: "Varies" - Weak during the Day. - Generally Good at Night. iane ~ RHF .. .. = = = (Diverd4777) = = = wrote in message ... Yeah, sure, dump your Cable & go Shortwave.... I mean, are you really gonna miss home Shopping Network ? ? Theres lots of good stuff on SWR; Look at Sony 7600, YB400 and Sangean 505A for starters.. AND as far as " other "TV stations, try put up a Second / 3rd. 4rth antenna & hooking them together..; & see what you can pick up ! ! Dan In article , writes: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? .. |
Thanks for the info about the R-9700 DX.
I've had dozens of analog portables since the 1960's, including a Sony SW20, and nothing beats that little Kaito WRX911 - and certainly not for the price. Moreover, since it's so cheap, I don't have to worry about breaking it or having it stolen. It could easily be replaced, unlike the more expensive radios. Pierre "Altawaowr" wrote in message ... The Kaito WRX911 is the perfect backpacking radio, buy it before REI finds it, and sells it to you for $49 USD. It looks like their parent maker sells them for $8 USD in china. I'm still using the first pair of alkaline batteries i put in them and i must have played the thing now and then for almost a year. It's just a very simple and very sensitive radio. It's amazing what you can hear on it outside, holding it in your hand pointing it with just its little antenna in a deliberate direction. The WRX-911 has a nice speaker on it, it has a good 'bright' sound that is great for human speech. Speech is intelligible on that radio. FM isn't very selective, and there's no light for the bands but otherwise the thing is great. I think you'll like the R-9700 DX, it's got a nice amber dial light on it, and you can guess the frequency within 5-15 kHz, the bands are nice and wide. FM is more sensitive and selective. The speaker sounds nice but the 'bright' sound of the WRX911 makes speech on the WRX911 a little bit more intelligible. The R-9700 DX gets FM in stereo if it's a strong station. It has an antenna jack and it comes with both a wire and a roll-up antenna for travelling. If you don't care about stereo through headphones, you can get FM radio stations on it from some distance. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:58:07 -0500, "Pierre L" wrote: I already have a Kaito WRX911 (Tecsun something I forget) and I like it so much I just ordered an R-9700DX a couple of days ago. It hasn't arrived yet, so I can't comment. I've had a number of digitally-tuned radios over the years, but I really don't like digital anything (the computer I'm typing this on is a necessary evil). Pushing buttons just was never like scanning the bands manually to see what's there, like in my younger days. I had a 7600GR I sold not long ago. Great radio in other ways, but what an exercise in frustration when you just want to scan the bands. Pierre "Altawaowr" wrote in message .. . Excellent choice. TV sucks, and it does more and more every day. How about trying a R-9700 DX? That's a wonderful radio and the price is right. Mine came from China via air mail for $26 plus $20 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=15 05 1 It has great sound and is very sensitive. FM and AM are good too. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't tune down to 9335 to hear North Korea in the middle of the night. But if they fire some missiles off at anybody I think it will be on the news most anywhere anyway. Oh and it doesn't have digital tuning, so you can tell you're near the frequency you want but you can't tell if you're right on it. Shortwave is noisy and sometimes fades a lot. This can drive people crazy, especially women. I like it though because you can hear nature. Plus if you live in the United States there's tons of religious stations with Southern accents. *vomit* What part of the world do you live in? Here on the west coast of the US, you don't hear cool things like the Voice of Turkey or Radio Cairo like you can in the eastern US. But you can hear Australia and New Zealand all night. Between 10 and midnight there isn't that much going on on shortwave unless you like Radio Havana. Now there's some low technology. Most anyone here will tell you, build yourself an antenna. It can just be a long wire outside to hook up to your radio. If you get the R-9700DX radio it comes with two wires you can use. Have fun and welcome. On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0600, wrote: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:14:45 -0800, Altawaowr
wrote: What part of the world do you live in? Im in north Missouri |
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:58:12 -0800, Altawaowr
wrote: The Kaito WRX911 is the perfect backpacking radio, buy it before REI finds it, and sells it to you for $49 USD. It looks like their parent maker sells them for $8 USD in china. So should I start with this SW radio? Even if Im not really wanting it for backpacking but home use? I mean ....its so cheap how can I go wrong? |
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:58:12 -0800, Altawaowr
wrote: I think you'll like the R-9700 DX, How much does that one cost? |
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Yeah!
Any cable guy that ever sells RHF service deserves a BIG raise. -- Stinger "Diverd4777" wrote in message ... In article , (RHF) writes: DiverD, That's what I have Three (3) TV Antennas 'Stacked' on One Pole: [ Over-the-Air FREE TV ] # 1 = Bottom @ SF Sutro Tower (255*) RadioShack VU-75 Antenna Mounted at 22 Feet [ 18 Element Antenna - 50" Boom Length ] # 2 = Middle @ San Jose (145*) RadioShack VU-90 Antenna Mounted at 29 Feet [ 32 Element Antenna - 80" Boom Length ] # 3 = Top @ Sacramento (45* Plus 5* Tilt ) RadioShack VU-120 Antenna Mounted at 36 Feet [ 37 Element Antenna - 120" Boom Length ] CHANNELS - CALL SIGNS (NETWORK) Other Language: 2 - KTVU (FOX) * 3 - KCRA (NBC) 4 - KRON (IND) 5 - KPIX (CBS) * 6 - KVIE (PBS) 7 - KGO (ABC) * 8 - KSWB (NBC) 9 - KQED (PBS) * 10 - KXTV (ABC) 11 - KNTV (NBC) * 13 - KVOR (CBS) 14 - KDTV (UniVision) Spanish 20 - KBWB (WB) 26 - KTSF (IND) 32 - KMPT (DW-TV) English & German 36 - KICU (IND) 38 - KCNS (SAH) 44 - KBHK (UPN) 48 - KSTS (Tela Mundo /NBC) Spanish * 50 - KFTY (IND) 54 - KTEH (PBS / BBC-WS) 60 - KCSM-TV (PBS / BBC-WS /IHT-TV) 65 - KKPX (PAX) 66 - KSFS (UniVision) Spanish 68 - KTLN-TV (REL) Spanish * NOTE: "Varies" - Weak during the Day. - Generally Good at Night. iane ~ RHF . . Way Cool !! ;-) |
Frank Dresser wrote:
wrote in message ... Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Shortwave demands more listener involvement than standard AM and FM broadcasting. The transmission schedules are shorter and the reception isn't as depandable. Listeners have to retune their radios more frequently. I know that I have to sit in front of my reciever to hear the news clearly, and I've got a Yaesu. I especially have trouble with the foreign accented English used by many SW stations. For example, Spain has got a newsreader named Luis De Beneto (sp?) who talks with a Spanish accent that's so thick it's hard to make out even when the signal is good. I have to really concentrate on what he's saying for it to make sense-he uses Spanish intonation on English words which creates a mouth-full-of-mashed-potatoes effect. Broadcast AM and FM and recorded music are more reliable sources for entertainment. I mainly use SW to get news and to "DX" (hear faraway stations not beamed to my area, for newbies who don't know what that means). Also, fans of unusual/rare music (Argentinian tangoes, Cuban jazz, Eastern European folk music) like SW because it has all this and more. But if you're looking for country or rap, you'll have better luck with FM. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Depends what's meant by interesting. There aren't any sitcoms like TV. There's not much music like broadcast radio. International broadcast stations oftentimes discuss world news and events and what wonderful tourist attractions are to be found in their countries. News is the most common format on SW, that and "features" that are occasionally interresting. Most domestic US shortwave stations are dominated by low cost brokered programming. Conspiracy theorists, evangalists, sellers of vital doomsday supplies such as gold, water filters, and nostrums. If you enjoyed the X-Files, you may enjoy domestic shortwave radio. I doubt it, having seen the X Files in its heyday. SW isn't Mulder and Scully confronting aliens, it's middle aged white guys with Southern accents ranting for hours. A couple are mildly interesting, such as Alex Jones, but even Jones is no match to Art Bell. After a while you notice that the preaching and conspiracy theorizing found on domestic SW has a monotonal quality to it, like an interminable session with the worst professor you had in college. |
"tommyknocker" wrote in message ... If you enjoyed the X-Files, you may enjoy domestic shortwave radio. I doubt it, having seen the X Files in its heyday. SW isn't Mulder and Scully confronting aliens, it's middle aged white guys with Southern accents ranting for hours. A couple are mildly interesting, such as Alex Jones, but even Jones is no match to Art Bell. After a while you notice that the preaching and conspiracy theorizing found on domestic SW has a monotonal quality to it, like an interminable session with the worst professor you had in college. It's not aliens, it's the Unified Conspiracy Theory, which seems to be the backstory for many of the evangelicals and conspiratorialists, as well as for Chris Carter. Anyway, Mulder should have had at least one SW radio in his apartment. Many of the one time characters should also have been SWLs. Frank Dresser |
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DiverD, That's what I have Three (3) TV Antennas 'Stacked' on One Pole: [ Over-the-Air FREE TV ] # 1 = Bottom @ SF Sutro Tower (255*) RadioShack VU-75 Antenna Mounted at 22 Feet [ 18 Element Antenna - 50" Boom Length ] # 2 = Middle @ San Jose (145*) RadioShack VU-90 Antenna Mounted at 29 Feet [ 32 Element Antenna - 80" Boom Length ] # 3 = Top @ Sacramento (45* Plus 5* Tilt ) RadioShack VU-120 Antenna Mounted at 36 Feet [ 37 Element Antenna - 120" Boom Length ] In Central California, I have ONE antenna (Channel Master 1160A) mounted on a 20-ft mast with rotor (on top of one-story house) and pick up the following channels (*signal varies from weak to perfect): 3 - local 4 - local 6 - Sacramento 8 - local *8 - Salinas *10 - Sacramento *11 - San Jose 12 - local 13 - local 14 - local 15 - local *17 - Bakersfield 18 - local *19 - Modesto 21 - local 23 - Bakersfield 24 - local 26 - local 27 - ? 29 - Bakersfield 30 - local *31 - Sacramento 32 - local 33 - local 35 - local *39 - Bakersfield *40 - Sacramento *42 - Concord 42 - local 43 - local *45 - Bakersfield *46 - San Jose 47 - local 49 - local *50 - Santa Rose 51 - local 53 - local 55 - local 56 - local *58 - Sacramento *58 - Bakersfield 59 - local 61 - local *65 - San Jose 66 - local PLUS, once in a while: 2 - Oakland 5 - San Francisco 5 - Los Angeles 7 - San Francisco 7 - Redding 9 - San Francisco 9 - Los Angeles 9 - Redding 20 - San Francisco 44 - San Francisco 60 - San Francisco The 1160A is so directional, I can pickup as many as THREE STATIONS ON THE SAME CHANNEL, ALL CLEAR WITHOUT INTERFERENCE, JUST BY TURNING THE ANTENNA. See article I wrote: HOW TO SELECT THE BEST TV ANTENNA at: http://129.8.204.40/~gary/antenna.pdf This is a large file and can take a few minutes to download in pdf format. |
GA,
Sound like a nice central location for Reception in general. ~ RHF .. .. = = = (Gary) = = = wrote in message . com... (RHF) wrote in message . com... DiverD, That's what I have Three (3) TV Antennas 'Stacked' on One Pole: [ Over-the-Air FREE TV ] # 1 = Bottom @ SF Sutro Tower (255*) RadioShack VU-75 Antenna Mounted at 22 Feet [ 18 Element Antenna - 50" Boom Length ] # 2 = Middle @ San Jose (145*) RadioShack VU-90 Antenna Mounted at 29 Feet [ 32 Element Antenna - 80" Boom Length ] # 3 = Top @ Sacramento (45* Plus 5* Tilt ) RadioShack VU-120 Antenna Mounted at 36 Feet [ 37 Element Antenna - 120" Boom Length ] In Central California, I have ONE antenna (Channel Master 1160A) mounted on a 20-ft mast with rotor (on top of one-story house) and pick up the following channels (*signal varies from weak to perfect): 3 - local 4 - local 6 - Sacramento 8 - local *8 - Salinas *10 - Sacramento *11 - San Jose 12 - local 13 - local 14 - local 15 - local *17 - Bakersfield 18 - local *19 - Modesto 21 - local 23 - Bakersfield 24 - local 26 - local 27 - ? 29 - Bakersfield 30 - local *31 - Sacramento 32 - local 33 - local 35 - local *39 - Bakersfield *40 - Sacramento *42 - Concord 42 - local 43 - local *45 - Bakersfield *46 - San Jose 47 - local 49 - local *50 - Santa Rose 51 - local 53 - local 55 - local 56 - local *58 - Sacramento *58 - Bakersfield 59 - local 61 - local *65 - San Jose 66 - local PLUS, once in a while: 2 - Oakland 5 - San Francisco 5 - Los Angeles 7 - San Francisco 7 - Redding 9 - San Francisco 9 - Los Angeles 9 - Redding 20 - San Francisco 44 - San Francisco 60 - San Francisco The 1160A is so directional, I can pickup as many as THREE STATIONS ON THE SAME CHANNEL, ALL CLEAR WITHOUT INTERFERENCE, JUST BY TURNING THE ANTENNA. See article I wrote: HOW TO SELECT THE BEST TV ANTENNA at: http://129.8.204.40/~gary/antenna.pdf This is a large file and can take a few minutes to download in pdf format. |
Try this site:
http://www.grove-ent.com/ And check out their magazine for short wave schedules, in English! MONITORING TIMES! Look in BOB'S Bargain Bin for used radios. wrote: Im thinking of dumping my cable TV. That will leave me with only two local TV stations to get via an antenna. Im considering buying a shortwave receiver that I can listen to while doing things around the house. Is there interesting programming available via shortwave? Is my idea sound? What good receivers are worth looking at? |
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