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Old March 11th 04, 07:40 PM
Funky Trilobyte
 
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Default Newbie questions from southern Utah

I can't quite say I'm a newbie, as I haven't actaully purchased the
radio yet. After much research, the general consensus seems to be the
Sony 7600g if I can find one (versus the GR, which has an annoying
mute). I'm still looking for the best price, so I haven't ordered
just yet (sites with good deals are welcome).

I have a few questions which I couldn't readily locate (or can't
determine the best search terms) on Deja/Google:

* I live in rual central Utah and will soon be moving to *very* rural
southwest Utah. Any hints or tips for SWLing/DXing in Utah or the
mountain west?

* Can SW radios be used to pick up atmospheric "noise" (the whistles,
pops, & clicks I've read about during auroras, magnetic storms and
such)?

* I once read on slashdot.org an article (can't find it now) about
broadcasts that just pop up in a location and broadcast strange random
(or encrypted?) patterns for a while, then just vanish. I forget what
they're called, but remember that it was implied that they were
transmitted by the government for unknown purposes. I think the
context may have been about the HAM culture, but I'm not sure. Can I
pick up those?

* If I enjoy this enough, I'd like to get a car unit. I was going to
replace my car's factory '93 tape deck with an in-dash CD/MP3 player.
Any SW car models that can do CDs and MP3, too?

Thanks for any and all help.
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Old March 11th 04, 10:06 PM
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You can occaisionally hear some atmospherics. But the sounds produced by the
magnetosphere require a receiver that picks up the very low frequency range.

As for rural dxing, it is good to be a long way away from power lines, cell
towers, computers etc. etc s. So if you can put up a long antenna, that
would be an even greater plus. A hundred feet is a great length to use, and
for lowest frequencies, the longer the antenna the better.

Numbers stations where messages coded as numbers and letters are still
around on sideband. The Global High Frequency System is audible on SW bands
(11.175 is one fqy) and requires sideband: used by the air force and others.
But many nations still transmit coded messages.




Strength and Honor

"Funky Trilobyte" wrote in message
om...
I can't quite say I'm a newbie, as I haven't actaully purchased the
radio yet. After much research, the general consensus seems to be the
Sony 7600g if I can find one (versus the GR, which has an annoying
mute). I'm still looking for the best price, so I haven't ordered
just yet (sites with good deals are welcome).

I have a few questions which I couldn't readily locate (or can't
determine the best search terms) on Deja/Google:

* I live in rual central Utah and will soon be moving to *very* rural
southwest Utah. Any hints or tips for SWLing/DXing in Utah or the
mountain west?

* Can SW radios be used to pick up atmospheric "noise" (the whistles,
pops, & clicks I've read about during auroras, magnetic storms and
such)?

* I once read on slashdot.org an article (can't find it now) about
broadcasts that just pop up in a location and broadcast strange random
(or encrypted?) patterns for a while, then just vanish. I forget what
they're called, but remember that it was implied that they were
transmitted by the government for unknown purposes. I think the
context may have been about the HAM culture, but I'm not sure. Can I
pick up those?

* If I enjoy this enough, I'd like to get a car unit. I was going to
replace my car's factory '93 tape deck with an in-dash CD/MP3 player.
Any SW car models that can do CDs and MP3, too?

Thanks for any and all help.



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Old March 12th 04, 01:38 AM
David
 
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You need no receiver for Very Low Frequency, Just plug an antenna
into an amplier.

http://www.stellafane.com/images/sco...avellone2.html

http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Jup...iterRadio.html

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:06:31 GMT, "Maximus" wrote:

You can occaisionally hear some atmospherics. But the sounds produced by the
magnetosphere require a receiver that picks up the very low frequency range.

As for rural dxing, it is good to be a long way away from power lines, cell
towers, computers etc. etc s. So if you can put up a long antenna, that
would be an even greater plus. A hundred feet is a great length to use, and
for lowest frequencies, the longer the antenna the better.

Numbers stations where messages coded as numbers and letters are still
around on sideband. The Global High Frequency System is audible on SW bands
(11.175 is one fqy) and requires sideband: used by the air force and others.
But many nations still transmit coded messages.




Strength and Honor

"Funky Trilobyte" wrote in message
. com...
I can't quite say I'm a newbie, as I haven't actaully purchased the
radio yet. After much research, the general consensus seems to be the
Sony 7600g if I can find one (versus the GR, which has an annoying
mute). I'm still looking for the best price, so I haven't ordered
just yet (sites with good deals are welcome).

I have a few questions which I couldn't readily locate (or can't
determine the best search terms) on Deja/Google:

* I live in rual central Utah and will soon be moving to *very* rural
southwest Utah. Any hints or tips for SWLing/DXing in Utah or the
mountain west?

* Can SW radios be used to pick up atmospheric "noise" (the whistles,
pops, & clicks I've read about during auroras, magnetic storms and
such)?

* I once read on slashdot.org an article (can't find it now) about
broadcasts that just pop up in a location and broadcast strange random
(or encrypted?) patterns for a while, then just vanish. I forget what
they're called, but remember that it was implied that they were
transmitted by the government for unknown purposes. I think the
context may have been about the HAM culture, but I'm not sure. Can I
pick up those?

* If I enjoy this enough, I'd like to get a car unit. I was going to
replace my car's factory '93 tape deck with an in-dash CD/MP3 player.
Any SW car models that can do CDs and MP3, too?

Thanks for any and all help.




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Old March 12th 04, 09:46 PM
Funky Trilobyte
 
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David wrote in message . ..
You need no receiver for Very Low Frequency, Just plug an antenna
into an amplier.

http://www.stellafane.com/images/sco...avellone2.html

http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Jup...iterRadio.html


That is too cool. Thanks for the links!

And a big thanks to everyone else who refreshed my memory about "numbers stations".

(impatiently waiting for my radio to arrive...)
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Old March 13th 04, 05:25 AM
WShoots1
 
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You need no receiver for Very Low Frequency, Just plug an antenna into an
amplier.

I suppose, to keep the result from sounding like a VLF version of an untuned
crystal set, an audio equalizer could be used as a "tuner." Too, the two
channels of a stereo equalizer could be rewired in series to sharpen each
frequency.

Bill, K5BY


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Old March 12th 04, 02:25 AM
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"Funky Trilobyte" wrote in message
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I can't quite say I'm a newbie, as I haven't actaully purchased the
radio yet. After much research, the general consensus seems to be the
Sony 7600g if I can find one (versus the GR, which has an annoying
mute). I'm still looking for the best price, so I haven't ordered
just yet (sites with good deals are welcome).

I have a few questions which I couldn't readily locate (or can't
determine the best search terms) on Deja/Google:

* I live in rual central Utah and will soon be moving to *very* rural
southwest Utah. Any hints or tips for SWLing/DXing in Utah or the
mountain west?


Enjoy it. That's a great location.


* Can SW radios be used to pick up atmospheric "noise" (the whistles,
pops, & clicks I've read about during auroras, magnetic storms and
such)?


Yes.

* I once read on slashdot.org an article (can't find it now) about
broadcasts that just pop up in a location and broadcast strange random
(or encrypted?) patterns for a while, then just vanish. I forget what
they're called, but remember that it was implied that they were
transmitted by the government for unknown purposes. I think the
context may have been about the HAM culture, but I'm not sure. Can I
pick up those?


Numbers stations. Hear them frequently.

* If I enjoy this enough, I'd like to get a car unit. I was going to
replace my car's factory '93 tape deck with an in-dash CD/MP3 player.
Any SW car models that can do CDs and MP3, too?


None available in this country to my knowledge though several people on hear
have ordered them from elsewhere. I'm sure someone that knows more about it
will get in here and give you the details.

Thanks for any and all help.


Good the have you around. You can learn a lot here but step carefully, there
are piles of crap interspersed with the worthwhile conversations.


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Old March 12th 04, 03:41 PM
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This is from a readme file included at a web site where you can get
recordings of the magnetosphere and atmospherics:
GUIDE TO ALASKAN NATURALLY-OCCURRING VLF RECEPTION WAVE FILES
IN THIS AK_VLF1.ZIP FILE:

All files recorded by Stephen P. McGreevy using a handheld WR-3E
VLF receiver and 33 to 50 inch whip antenna into a Marantz PMD-212
mono cassette recorder.

All of these files are recorded in 8-bit/11kHz sampling rate for
greatest compatibility (but lower quality) with all sounds cards
as well as the Microsoft "speaker.drv" PC speaker sound driver.

1) KENAIWHI.WAV I call these "Kenai Crazy Whistlers," though they
fall into the "periodic emission" category. These were recorded
on 09 Sept. 1995 near Skilak Lake on the Kenai Peninsula about
40 miles south of Anchorage, AK at 0930 UTC. Very pure whistling
tones which fall and then abruptly rise. Seen on a spectrogram,
they look like "hooks," hence they are also named this term.
This location was about 3 miles from nearest A.C. power-lines.
(61 seconds)

2) KENAIWH2.WAV This recording begins about where the recording
in the "KENAIWHI.WAV" file ends. (60 sec.)

3) AKAUCHO.WAV Recorded midday during a minor-major magnetic
storm (accompanied by nice aurora the nights before), this is
STRONG daytime auroral chorus rarely heard at lower latitudes.
Recorded up the Steese Highway about 40 miles northeast
of Fairbanks, AK on 06 Sept. 1995 at approx. 2045 UTC.
(approx. 85 secs.)


Stephen P. McGreevy, 45 Elda Drive, San Rafael, CA 94903 USA

e-mail:

The WR-3E receiver is available for sale. Contact me at above address
for further information. SpM

Strength and Honor


"CW" wrote in message
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"Funky Trilobyte" wrote in message
om...
I can't quite say I'm a newbie, as I haven't actaully purchased the
radio yet. After much research, the general consensus seems to be the
Sony 7600g if I can find one (versus the GR, which has an annoying
mute). I'm still looking for the best price, so I haven't ordered
just yet (sites with good deals are welcome).

I have a few questions which I couldn't readily locate (or can't
determine the best search terms) on Deja/Google:

* I live in rual central Utah and will soon be moving to *very* rural
southwest Utah. Any hints or tips for SWLing/DXing in Utah or the
mountain west?


Enjoy it. That's a great location.


* Can SW radios be used to pick up atmospheric "noise" (the whistles,
pops, & clicks I've read about during auroras, magnetic storms and
such)?


Yes.

* I once read on slashdot.org an article (can't find it now) about
broadcasts that just pop up in a location and broadcast strange random
(or encrypted?) patterns for a while, then just vanish. I forget what
they're called, but remember that it was implied that they were
transmitted by the government for unknown purposes. I think the
context may have been about the HAM culture, but I'm not sure. Can I
pick up those?


Numbers stations. Hear them frequently.

* If I enjoy this enough, I'd like to get a car unit. I was going to
replace my car's factory '93 tape deck with an in-dash CD/MP3 player.
Any SW car models that can do CDs and MP3, too?


None available in this country to my knowledge though several people on

hear
have ordered them from elsewhere. I'm sure someone that knows more about

it
will get in here and give you the details.

Thanks for any and all help.


Good the have you around. You can learn a lot here but step carefully,

there
are piles of crap interspersed with the worthwhile conversations.




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