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Old March 18th 04, 11:16 AM
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At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on a
tonic
scale. I have not heard that for a long time.

I feel certain I've heard that at least once since I got back to listening to
SW 1-1/2 years ago. It was C-E-g-C, wasn't it? (I think I used the correct
notation. The g is below the middle C.)

Here ya go... I haven't checked them out yet, but WOW!

http://www.intervalsignals.net/countries/uk-bbcws.htm


Used during the war on various types of drum, kettle, snare etc.

I've never heard it since.

Mike
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Old March 18th 04, 12:38 PM
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Simon:

Those QSL's brought back some memories for me! Sure wish there was a site
where I could listen to some of the broadcasts from Radio Peking. They were
the most rabid of all the Communist broadcasters in my opinion.

I'm sure that in the US Govt files somewhere, they have hundreds of hours of
recordings. In a few more years, maybe they will become available on the
net.

Regards to all,
Lee Smith


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Old March 18th 04, 02:09 PM
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Yes, Steve, they still use the tonic signal that sounds like something
like: "Beee-Beee-Ceeeeeeee" for their South American service. I heard
it a few nights ago, and yes, I hadn't heard it for such a long time.
By the way, my favorite interval signal, which is being cut a bit,
still remains RFI's jazz version of their national anthem.

Marty
san Juan, PR
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Old March 18th 04, 02:38 PM
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Caribbean Listener wrote:

Yes, Steve, they still use the tonic signal that sounds like something
like: "Beee-Beee-Ceeeeeeee" for their South American service. I heard
it a few nights ago, and yes, I hadn't heard it for such a long time.
By the way, my favorite interval signal, which is being cut a bit,
still remains RFI's jazz version of their national anthem.


Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a listen as it's been a while since I've
heard it from the BBC.


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Old March 18th 04, 03:59 PM
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TV and violence - Lili Bolero?

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Christopher Jones said "I felt so sad when I heard that the BBC world
service had scuttled Lili Bolero (Lillibullero ) and replaced that
famous march with a lot of CNNish trumpets, gongs and so on". I
wondered what "Lillibullero was. George Sassoon came to the rescue: "
I am very sorry to hear this too - I was looking forward to hearing
the tune on the BBC short wave when we go abroad next week. According
to my Webster, it is spelt "Lillibullero" and is "an English
revolutionary song ridiculing the appointment of Talbot of Tyrconnell
as Lieutenant of Ireland in 1686. It helped foment the revolution of
1688 [an arbitrary formation]". It was originally entitled "The
Protestant Boys", so may have been dropped by the BBC to avoid
offending the IRA. Yet another fine tradition falls victim to
political correctness".

RH:This led me to investigate Talbot of Tyrconnell. "Charles II died
in 1685 and was succeeded by his Catholic brother, James II. Irish
Catholic hopes rose when he appointed the Catholic Earl of Tyrconnell,
Richard Talbot, as Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1687. This was the first
appointment of a Catholic viceroy for more than a century and
gradually more Catholics were appointed to administrative positions.
This caused Protestants to wonder if their positions and lands were
secure. Their fears seemed about to be realized as Tyrconnell intended
to convene a parliament which would be balanced in favour of
Catholics. Before this could happen, James was deposed in 1688 and
replaced by the Protestant William of Orange. Tyrconnell and the Irish
Catholics rallied to his support"

RH: This took me to the town of Londonderry in Northern Ireland,,
where in 1689, thanks to the bravery of Protestant boys, the city
withstood a 105-day siege by the army of James II, an event
commemorated every year by the Protestants there, while the Catholics
stage a protest In 1972 during the Catholic protest march, British
paratroopers fired into the crowd, killing 13 people. This episode is
still the subject of bitter debate, so it is not surprising that the
BBC did not want to incite the Catholics. We see again how distant
history affects present political behavior.

As for Lillburlero, the Oxford English Dictionary says. "Part of the
refrain (hence, the name and the tune) of a song ridiculing the Irish,
popular about 1688 - 1688 Pol. Ballads (1860) I. 275 Ho! broder
Teague, dost hear de decree? Lilli Burlero, bullen a-la Dat we shall
have a new deputie. 1689 Diary in Topographer (1790) 32 The Chimes at
St. Michaels..haveing for some time been made to strike Lilli Burlero.
1697 VANBRUGH Ęsop v. 66 Dol, de tol dol, dol dol, de tol dol: Lilly
Burleighre's lodg'd in a Bough.

RH: I refuse to try to identify Lilli

Ronald Hilton - 5/6/03



On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:54:25 -0600, "Lee Smith"
wrote:

The BBC World Service uses a short bit of classical music before they do
the news at the top of the hour.

Can anyone tell me what the title of the full selection is?

Thanks,
Lee Smith




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In message , WShoots1
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At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on

a
tonic
scale. I have not heard that for a long time.

I feel certain I've heard that at least once since I got back to

listening to
SW 1-1/2 years ago. It was C-E-g-C, wasn't it? (I think I used the

correct
notation. The g is below the middle C.)

Here ya go... I haven't checked them out yet, but WOW!

http://www.intervalsignals.net/countries/uk-bbcws.htm


Used during the war on various types of drum, kettle, snare etc.

I've never heard it since.


I was a boy in the 70s in the UK and I can distinctly remember hearing the
'V' interval signal played on the drum rather than the electronic tones that
replaced it. The drum must have been used right up to the early 70s before
being replaced. Could anyone confirm this? My memory may well be playing
tricks!

I didn't have a shortwave set at the time so I must have heard the drum
interval signal over the BBC's European services on medium wave. It seems
amazing that the wartime interval signal was used for so long afterwards. It
was very dramatic though and it reminded me of the old war films - I must
have a search on the net for a recording of it.


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At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on a
tonic scale. I have not heard that for a long time.


That must have been a LONG time ago. I've been listening to the BBC
World Service for more than 30-years and I never heard the 'V' signal.


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starman wrote:

At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on a
tonic scale. I have not heard that for a long time.


That must have been a LONG time ago. I've been listening to the BBC
World Service for more than 30-years and I never heard the 'V' signal.


It was certainly in use in the 80's for certain broadcasts, and may be in use
yet today according to another poster.


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starman wrote:

At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on a
tonic scale. I have not heard that for a long time.


That must have been a LONG time ago. I've been listening to the BBC
World Service for more than 30-years and I never heard the 'V' signal.


It was certainly in use in the 80's for certain broadcasts, and may be in use
yet today according to another poster.


And not necessarily what we might consider to be 'World Service' broadcasts, but
rather broadcasts in languages other than English as I recall.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

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At one time the BBC used the Morse 'V' as an interval signal played on a
tonic scale. I have not heard that for a long time.


That must have been a LONG time ago. I've been listening to the BBC
World Service for more than 30-years and I never heard the 'V' signal.


It was certainly in use in the 80's for certain broadcasts, and may be in use
yet today according to another poster.


Now I remember hearing it. It was ...- played on an instrument like a
xylophone. The dots were one tone and the dash was a higher note. I was
thinking it sounded like real CW morse code.


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