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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/s...907889,00.html


Bush Touts High-Speed Internet Access Plan

Saturday March 27, 2004 12:01 AM

By SCOTT LINDLAW
Associated Press Writer

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.
.....

In an outdoor speech here, the president stopped short of promising he
would reach the goal by 2007, saying instead that ``we ought to have''
cheap high-speed access everywhere. Nor did he offer a detailed plan
on how he hoped to achieve it.

But his administration has been working at it behind the scenes. Last
month, the Federal Communication Commission voted to write rules for a
third way to bring high-speed Internet service to homes: through
conventional electric lines, where a homeowner could plug a modem into
an electrical outlet.
.....

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells them
to.

"reasonable doubt" wrote in message
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot
Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a
population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter
after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells
them
to.


Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"reasonable doubt" wrote in message
. net...

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them

to.



Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how
this will be funded? There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...


As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how
this will be funded?

We could always borrow the money. Foriegn banks are just bursting with
American cash, due to our industrial trade imbalance.

There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -



If we buy foriegn made fiber cable, we can borrow the money back to pay the
rest of the bills. This could be "self-funding".

Frank Dresser

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Dee D. Flint wrote:
"reasonable doubt" wrote in message
. net...

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them

to.



Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even
via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used
alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how
this will be funded? There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -


The rural areas will be neglected as always. There aren't enough voters to
make a difference there anyway, at least in the politician's eyes.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Dee D. Flint wrote:
"reasonable doubt" wrote in message
. net...

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them

to.



Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even
via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used
alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how
this will be funded? There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -


What really needs to be done is at the point of end of the line, simply go
with RF. Works for cellular quite well. Small low power 'nodes'. Linked
by fiber and/or wire. No RFI, better security, and a dang lot easier to
run and keep working.

Dan/W4NTI

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:32:11 GMT, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

What really needs to be done is at the point of end of the line, simply go
with RF. Works for cellular quite well. Small low power 'nodes'. Linked
by fiber and/or wire. No RFI, better security, and a dang lot easier to
run and keep working.

That's what someone did in rural eastern Oregon to cover a 600
square mile area - lots of non-licensed low power Part 15 "Wi-Fi"
nodes. Off-the shelf low-cost equipment for both the provider and
the subscriber and no communication interference problems.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
Dee D. Flint wrote:
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
....
As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives, I wonder how
this will be funded? There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Which means that if you really want to fight BPL, you need to go to
the stock market analysts and point out what a bad investment it may
be, and probably more effectivly, your states utility regulators (if
they have any of them left) to make sure that the power companies
don't use funds from a regulated service to set themselves up as
ISPs. Using Montana Power as an example, ISPs and Power companies
don't mix very well.

Mark Zenier

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Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

As one of the endangered species of fiscal conservatives,
I wonder how this will be funded ?

There are large parts of the country that will
require many many miles of fiber to reach one family.

- Mike KB3EIA -


The Funding is already there . . .
The Gore TAX for School Internet Connection.

Run the Main BPL Trunk-Lines and Distribution Points to the
Schools and have the Federal Government pay for that with
the existing Gore TAX.

WHY - BPL Broadband In Every Class Room - How Can Anyone Say NO To That !

Once Neighborhood Schools become the Distribution Points and the
BPL Broadband a 'low cost' BPL Broadband "Product" can be offered
within the neighborhood for home use.


~ RHF

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