"YODAR" wrote in message
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PROGRESSIVE MY ARSE!

Liberals dont have the COURAGE to ADMIT they are LIBERALS. They use the
PC word "progressive" in it's place because they dont have the GUTS (or
intellect)to argue (with reason instead of name-calling) their true
position on ANYTHING

Yodar

I'm pretty much centrist myself.. I have liberal view on some things (health
care for the elderly, death penalty, etc.) and conservative views on other
things (taxes, abortion, etc.).. but I have never understood what the far
right hates so much about the left (or vice-versa for that matter). Both
sides have some crazy ideas, both sides have some great ideas. For
instance, if not for liberals, women would still not have the vote, blacks
would still be slaves, and you would be working in a sweatshop for $1 an
hour. If not for conservatives, we would be paying half of our wages in
taxes and would never be able to own a home or have credit...

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"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

I'm pretty much centrist myself.. I have liberal view on some things (health
care for the elderly, death penalty, etc.) and conservative views on other
things (taxes, abortion, etc.).. but I have never understood what the far
right hates so much about the left (or vice-versa for that matter).

It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!" "We're In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!

It has nothing to do with "The Future Of America" or any of that
rhetoric. It's a horse race, a beauty pageant. Pure and simple.

That's why I gave up voting about 20 years ago. It makes no difference
who "wins" or who "loses". Any candidate will say anything to any
group in order to get elected.

Whatever you all decide is fine with me. Just wake me up when it's all
over.

Dan

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"Dan" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

I'm pretty much centrist myself.. I have liberal view on some
things (health
care for the elderly, death penalty, etc.) and conservative views
on other
things (taxes, abortion, etc.).. but I have never understood what
the far
right hates so much about the left (or vice-versa for that
matter).

It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!" "We're
In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!


Well Dan, I guess you're entitled. But if you think judicial
appointments, which are purely based on the party in power, have
nothing to do with the future of the country, or the present in which
you're living, there's not much I can say.

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"T. Early" wrote:

Well Dan, I guess you're entitled. But if you think judicial
appointments, which are purely based on the party in power, have
nothing to do with the future of the country, or the present in which
you're living, there's not much I can say.

That's the *only* thing that *might* matter. In the long run, however,
it balances out, because you generally get 8 years of Republicans and
then 8 years of Democrats. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Dan

"Dan" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

I'm pretty much centrist myself.. I have liberal view on some things
(health
care for the elderly, death penalty, etc.) and conservative views on
other
things (taxes, abortion, etc.).. but I have never understood what the
far
right hates so much about the left (or vice-versa for that matter).

It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!" "We're In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!

It has nothing to do with "The Future Of America" or any of that
rhetoric. It's a horse race, a beauty pageant. Pure and simple.

That's why I gave up voting about 20 years ago. It makes no difference
who "wins" or who "loses". Any candidate will say anything to any
group in order to get elected.

Whatever you all decide is fine with me. Just wake me up when it's all
over.

You've got a lot of nerve to be telling the truth Dan! Get ready to duck : )

DeWayne


Dan

Drake R8, Grundig Satellit 650
Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1936)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1935)

"Dan" wrote in message
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It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!" "We're In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!

It has nothing to do with "The Future Of America" or any of that
rhetoric. It's a horse race, a beauty pageant. Pure and simple.


If only that were true. This is the era of Big Government. There are
thousands and thousands of jobs to be handed out. There are billions of
dollars worth of contracts to be awarded. People will be prosecuted, or not
prosecuted, based on the outcome of the election.



That's why I gave up voting about 20 years ago. It makes no difference
who "wins" or who "loses". Any candidate will say anything to any
group in order to get elected.

It makes a great deal of difference who wins, at least for some people.
And, yes, candidates will say most anything, but they put much less in
writing.



Whatever you all decide is fine with me. Just wake me up when it's all
over.

Dan


Sorry if I gave you nightmares!

Frank Dresser

In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
...

It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!" "We're In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!

It has nothing to do with "The Future Of America" or any of that
rhetoric. It's a horse race, a beauty pageant. Pure and simple.


If only that were true. This is the era of Big Government. There are
thousands and thousands of jobs to be handed out. There are billions of
dollars worth of contracts to be awarded. People will be prosecuted, or not
prosecuted, based on the outcome of the election.

All of that will happen no matter who is in the White House. If the
job goes to Eany, Meany, Miney or Moe it makes little difference.

Dan

Drake R8, Grundig Satellit 650
Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1936)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1935)

"Dan" wrote in message
...
In article
,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
...

It's all about "bragging rights". "We Won The Election!"
"We're In
The White House!" "We're More Popular!". Neener Neener!

It has nothing to do with "The Future Of America" or any of that
rhetoric. It's a horse race, a beauty pageant. Pure and
simple.


If only that were true. This is the era of Big Government. There
are
thousands and thousands of jobs to be handed out. There are
billions of
dollars worth of contracts to be awarded. People will be
prosecuted, or not
prosecuted, based on the outcome of the election.

All of that will happen no matter who is in the White House. If
the
job goes to Eany, Meany, Miney or Moe it makes little difference.

If you consider Roe v Wade, affirmative action, Miranda rights, "God"
in the pledge of allegiance, and exceptions to search and seizure
requirements to make little difference.

"T. Early" wrote in message
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If you consider Roe v Wade, affirmative action, Miranda rights, "God"
in the pledge of allegiance, and exceptions to search and seizure
requirements to make little difference.



Is there really much evidence there's much difference between judges
appointed by Republicans and Democrats? I know Rush is oftentimes eagar to
tell us who appointed the judges (usually Carter or Clinton) who write
decisions he disagrees with. But often Rush doesn't mention who appointed
the judge. Howcum? I'm guessing these are mostly Reagan or Bush
appointees.

How might I tell the difference between court decisions between Republican
judges and Democrat judges? By the girls in the military school decision?
By the campaign reform decision?

Certainly the abortion decision is the highest profile of these old issues.
The religious right has made a real difference in American elections. The
majority of the Supreme Court is now Republican. And the abortion decision
is now older than the majority of Americans, and may outlive us all.

Frank Dresser

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"T. Early" wrote in message
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If you consider Roe v Wade, affirmative action, Miranda rights,
"God"
in the pledge of allegiance, and exceptions to search and seizure
requirements to make little difference.



Is there really much evidence there's much difference between judges
appointed by Republicans and Democrats? I know Rush is oftentimes
eagar to
tell us who appointed the judges (usually Carter or Clinton) who
write
decisions he disagrees with. But often Rush doesn't mention who
appointed
the judge. Howcum? I'm guessing these are mostly Reagan or Bush
appointees.

How might I tell the difference between court decisions between
Republican
judges and Democrat judges? By the girls in the military school
decision?
By the campaign reform decision?

Certainly the abortion decision is the highest profile of these old
issues.
The religious right has made a real difference in American
elections. The
majority of the Supreme Court is now Republican. And the abortion
decision
is now older than the majority of Americans, and may outlive us all.


I can't argue with you--you're too logical But the question was
whether who gets elected matters, and I still think that the area in
which it matters -most- is in the area of judicial appointments. It's
true that the majority of Supreme Court appointments were made by
Republican presidents, but the two lower federal courts also are very
important--and the party in control gets many appointments to those
courts for the life of the judges that aren't subject to the scrutiny
received by Supreme Court justices. I also think that, as both sides
of the political spectrum have becoming increasingly polarized (rabid)
in recent years, future appointments to all courts will reflect that
polarization. And yes, while many cases are probably decided without
regard to who appointed the judges, on any number of important issues
judges appointed by Democrats tend to be less literal in interpreting
laws than judges appointed by Republicans.