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I've had them side by side on the same antenna and that is simply not true.
I am done and will step away from the podium... "longwave" wrote in message ... He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Jim Hackett wrote: I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.] The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am. It makes a dandy clock-radio... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one... [SNIPPED] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Dan wrote: In article , longwave wrote: He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence. That's the best anyone can do. Indeed. If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my findings. What I find interesting is in another thread someone compared his $60 dollar Chinese portable to his IC-R75 and found that it heard everything the IC-R75 did. I've done some thinking on this "one radio hears a station and the other didn't" situation when the sensitivity of the radios are within a few dBm of each other. Normally it would not be reasonable to expect this result. I think the reason has to do with the radios input impedance changing over frequency and not looking like a resistive load. With an antenna not matched well on one end of a coax and the radio not being a good match on some frequencies on the other end results can be unpredictable with resonances at different frequencies for the different radios. This will lead to unpredictable results. In order to flatten out the response of the antenna / coax an attenuator could be used absorb the reflections in the antenna system. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Dear Ms. Dyer,
You're absolutely right about preferences for radios (and other possessions) really being subjective. (My two favorite portables are a Hitachi KH-1108S [the South African version - don't ask; I've never been to South Africa] which I bought back in 1969 and the Radio Shack DX-375. Both are poor compared to what is available, but I still really like using them [and I own many other portables].) Re-reading my first posting I see I was unduly harsh on the ICOM IC-R75 which, after all, is an excellent receiver and, as far as I know, is properly assembled of quality parts (no q.c. problems). This is very important and is a major problem with the Satellit. What I was really trying to do was to offer people who aren't sure about purchasing a Satellit some information based on my own experience. When I sent my unit to Drake, I asked the technician to write the measured sensitivity of my unit on my invoice; he did so, saying that my unit measured 0.4 mcv for 10 db S/N on SSB. That's not bad for a $500.00 receiver considering the other facilities offered for "digging out" signals. I personally just feel that at $500.00 the Grundig Satellit 800 is the best receiver available at the price at this time. The q.c. problems can be ameliorated with careful attention when purchasing. I don't wish to "plug" a company on this newsgroup, but I have had very good luck with Universal. They are helpful and informative. Their prices are as good as any. They will test a piece of equipment for you before shipment if you ask. (I haven't used Grove for major purchases, but I exppect they would do the same.) As I said in my first sentence on my first posting, the Satellit, like all radios (and I don't care the price), is not perfect. But if one is contemplating purchase, I think that it is a fine receiver with good sensitivity, good facilities, and good sound. If my comments about the ICOM offended anyone, I apologize sincerely. Lawrence "Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message ... "Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Dear Jim, I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than mine. My friend likes his ICOM. I feel that most receiver preferences are subjective. Comes down not to specs, or even to features, but to what the listener personally likes. My favorite portable radio of all time is a Grundig Transistor 1000. It has LW/MW/SW1(49m Europa band)/SW2 (6-16 MHz)/FM. It has no SSB capabilities at all. It is, however, an outstanding program listening radio, with excellent sensitivity and selectivity. Not as selective, perhaps, as something with a sharp ceramic filter, but I have no trouble separating stations on it. It was made back when Grundig was at the top of it's form, sounds fantastic, and is quite solidly built. It's no $700 radio, but it does everything important to me in a SW receiver... (if I want to hear SSB signals, I'll fire up my ham rig.. ) |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV So how long ago was it then that you attended Wayne State? (And lived in the slums of Detroit). If it was prior to the 14 years you lived in Utah then you certainly knew long before 2001 that you had not received the PhD. Duh. It's obvious that you 1.) Understand little about how one works toward a PhD and that 2.) You are bored and looking to keep a fight going. Why don't you take another drive to Ohio? It's obvious that you need something besides your Drake to keep you occupied. Get a life, Steve. Get a PhD Fat Boy... You gotta remember that YOU were the one who lied about having one in the first place! |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV So how long ago was it then that you attended Wayne State? (And lived in the slums of Detroit). If it was prior to the 14 years you lived in Utah then you certainly knew long before 2001 that you had not received the PhD. Duh. It's obvious that you 1.) Understand little about how one works toward a PhD and that 2.) You are bored and looking to keep a fight going. You claimed you did your PhD work at Wayne State... Why don't you take another drive to Ohio? I may just do that Fat Boy! It's obvious that you need something besides your Drake to keep you occupied. Drake's Fat Boy, Drake's... plural... pay attention! If you can. Get a life, Steve. Like I stated before... try and get that PhD! |
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