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Yodar April 5th 04 09:00 PM

SATELLITE 800
 
Has anyone seen the unlabeled receiver resembling the Satelite 800
illustrated on the TECSUN website?

....Would that Lipyn offered THOSE at similar price breaks that he does
the R350

Yodar

Brenda Ann Dyer April 5th 04 09:27 PM


"Yodar" wrote in message
om...
Has anyone seen the unlabeled receiver resembling the Satelite 800
illustrated on the TECSUN website?

...Would that Lipyn offered THOSE at similar price breaks that he does
the R350



I've been trying to find one of the Tecsun HAM 2000's.. so far no luck. I'm
thinking of using my frequent flier miles for a trip to Hong Kong in search
of...




CitizenSnips April 6th 04 12:35 AM


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"Yodar" wrote in message
om...
Has anyone seen the unlabeled receiver resembling the Satelite 800
illustrated on the TECSUN website?

...Would that Lipyn offered THOSE at similar price breaks that he does
the R350



I've been trying to find one of the Tecsun HAM 2000's.. so far no luck.

I'm
thinking of using my frequent flier miles for a trip to Hong Kong in

search
of...




Interesting....

http://www.tecsun.com.cn/english/pro...00-inside1.htm


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Dan April 6th 04 12:42 AM

In article b3mcc.54463$_U.10908@lakeread05,
"CitizenSnips" wrote:

I've been trying to find one of the Tecsun HAM 2000's.. so far no luck.

I'm
thinking of using my frequent flier miles for a trip to Hong Kong in

search
of...




Interesting....

http://www.tecsun.com.cn/english/pro...00-inside1.htm


It is well-known that the HAM 2000 is the same radio as the Satellit
800. At least, I *thought* it was well-known. Passport documents
this.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig Satellit 650, Satellit 700, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Brenda Ann Dyer April 6th 04 01:34 AM


"Dan" wrote in message
...
In article b3mcc.54463$_U.10908@lakeread05,
"CitizenSnips" wrote:

I've been trying to find one of the Tecsun HAM 2000's.. so far no

luck.
I'm
thinking of using my frequent flier miles for a trip to Hong Kong in

search
of...




Interesting....

http://www.tecsun.com.cn/english/pro...00-inside1.htm


It is well-known that the HAM 2000 is the same radio as the Satellit
800. At least, I *thought* it was well-known. Passport documents
this.


Yep... known it for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




Brian Hill April 6th 04 01:43 AM


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep... known it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


--
73 Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant
never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare
to die.

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/



Brenda Ann Dyer April 6th 04 02:19 AM


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep... known

it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts, it
should be around $300 or less..




Dan April 6th 04 03:01 AM

In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep... known

it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts, it
should be around $300 or less..


The problem will be finding one.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig Satellit 650, Satellit 700, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Brenda Ann Dyer April 6th 04 03:30 AM


"Dan" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep...

known
it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar

to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts,

it
should be around $300 or less..


The problem will be finding one.


Maybe not so big of a problem here.. I'm actually in Asia to start with, and
only a few hundred miles from either Tokyo or Beijing/Hong Kong/Taipei... :)




Dan April 6th 04 03:37 AM

In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

Maybe not so big of a problem here.. I'm actually in Asia to start with, and
only a few hundred miles from either Tokyo or Beijing/Hong Kong/Taipei... :)


Ah yes, I see. I wasn't reading your headers! Yes, you should be
able to find one. Let us know the price if you do!

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig Satellit 650, Satellit 700, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

starman April 7th 04 07:25 AM

Dan wrote:

In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

Maybe not so big of a problem here.. I'm actually in Asia to start with, and
only a few hundred miles from either Tokyo or Beijing/Hong Kong/Taipei... :)


Ah yes, I see. I wasn't reading your headers! Yes, you should be
able to find one. Let us know the price if you do!

Dan


Check the AC power requirements. The Ham-2000 may not operate on 120-V
AC.


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Brenda Ann Dyer April 7th 04 07:29 AM


"starman" wrote in message
...
Dan wrote:

In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

Maybe not so big of a problem here.. I'm actually in Asia to start

with, and
only a few hundred miles from either Tokyo or Beijing/Hong

Kong/Taipei... :)

Ah yes, I see. I wasn't reading your headers! Yes, you should be
able to find one. Let us know the price if you do!

Dan


Check the AC power requirements. The Ham-2000 may not operate on 120-V
AC.


Neither does the Sat 800.. they both run from DC supplies that drop it down
to 9 VDC. I'm pretty sure that those supplies are univolt.



Brian Hill April 7th 04 10:48 PM


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep... known

it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts, it
should be around $300 or less..



That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and let
us know.


--
73 Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant
never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare
to die.

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/





B Banton April 8th 04 04:24 AM

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:48:12 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote:


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message Yep... known

it
for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot
less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts, it
should be around $300 or less..



That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and let
us know.


The Sat 800 is a poor quality radio. Consider that in your purchase.

starman April 8th 04 08:54 AM

Brian Hill wrote:

That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and let
us know.


The latest issue of the 'Heartland America' catalog is selling the
factory (Drake) refurbished Sat-800 for $350.

http://www.heartlandamerica.com/


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starman April 8th 04 09:05 AM

starman wrote:

Brian Hill wrote:

That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and let
us know.


The latest issue of the 'Heartland America' catalog is selling the
factory (Drake) refurbished Sat-800 for $350.

http://www.heartlandamerica.com/


Sat-800 URL is:

http://www.heartlandamerica.com/item...asp?SKU=95441#


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B Banton April 8th 04 01:04 PM

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 05:36:34 GMT, Burr wrote:

I personally think it's great!!!!



It boggles the mind!!

Al Arduengo April 8th 04 06:33 PM

B Banton wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:48:12 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote:

snip

for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot

less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts, it
should be around $300 or less..




That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and let
us know.



The Sat 800 is a poor quality radio. Consider that in your purchase.


Could you elaborate on why? I have not yet found a review claiming a
bad experience. I ask because I am saving my lunch money for one of
these beasties and would hate to be disappointed.

-Al

Jim Hackett April 8th 04 08:14 PM

You are obviously NOT looking very hard. There are plenty of people with
bad experiences. If you are lucky enough to get a good one (I did) you will
probably love it.



"Al Arduengo" wrote in message
...
B Banton wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:48:12 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote:

snip

for quite a while.. I figure I can pick one up for a lot

less than paying for that Grundig badge..




So how much are these compared to the 800?


That's what I'm still trying to find out.. if the difference is similar

to
that of other Tecsun OEM radios and their Grundig badged counterparts,

it
should be around $300 or less..




That would be cool if you could get one for a good price. Good luck and

let
us know.



The Sat 800 is a poor quality radio. Consider that in your purchase.


Could you elaborate on why? I have not yet found a review claiming a
bad experience. I ask because I am saving my lunch money for one of
these beasties and would hate to be disappointed.

-Al




Michael Bryant April 8th 04 09:05 PM

Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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B Banton April 8th 04 09:19 PM

On 08 Apr 2004 20:05:56 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)



I would also add that there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.

Dan April 9th 04 12:10 AM

In article ,
B Banton wrote:

I would also add that there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.


Yeah, I have a 650 here. I just picked up an 800 for a good price.
It will be here next Tuesday, with any luck.

My 700 should be here about the same time. It'll be interesting to
compare a 650, a 700 and an 800, along with my other radios (see
tagline).

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig Satellit 650, Satellit 700, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Gary April 9th 04 05:39 AM

B Banton wrote in message I would also add that there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.


Although I am a little disappointed in the 2-watts and lack of bass,
reception on my Satellit 800 exceeds that of the Satellit 650 I had
mainly because of the great sideband-selectable sync detector. I also
like the SLOW/FAST AGC on the 800 much better than the manual gain
control on the 650. And since the 800 cost half as much as the 650, I
am very much satisfied with it. The fact that it is made of plastic
doesn't both me as I use it on as a tabletop and to me it doesn't look
or feel cheaply made. I would have loved the 650 if they had added a
sideband-selectable sync detector and a fast/slow AGC. Then it would
have been outstanding.

Brenda Ann Dyer April 9th 04 05:57 AM


"Gary" wrote in message
m...
B Banton wrote in message I would also add that

there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.


Although I am a little disappointed in the 2-watts and lack of bass,
reception on my Satellit 800 exceeds that of the Satellit 650 I had
mainly because of the great sideband-selectable sync detector. I also
like the SLOW/FAST AGC on the 800 much better than the manual gain
control on the 650. And since the 800 cost half as much as the 650, I
am very much satisfied with it. The fact that it is made of plastic
doesn't both me as I use it on as a tabletop and to me it doesn't look
or feel cheaply made. I would have loved the 650 if they had added a
sideband-selectable sync detector and a fast/slow AGC. Then it would
have been outstanding.


I dearly loved my Sat. 650, which I bought when they were first released for
a whopping $1199.00 from Lextronics. It was a very good radio for it's
time, but in light of several improvements made in the lines of actual
receiving ability, the 700 and 800 are superior in many ways. Mind you,
nothing beats the sound of older Grundig radios, especially the 600/650,
which were absolutely wonderful for program listening.. However, leaving
aside the selectable sideband synchronous detector, the SSB reception on the
600/650 was particularly atrocious, I never was able to get a clear SSB
signal on it, even when turning the RF gain nearly all the way down (the RF
gain controls seem to be a bit sharp, meaning they go rapidly from zero gain
to too much). I did like the preselector on the 600/650 better than the one
on the 700, mainly because the one on the 700 does not have a memory, and is
difficult to set manually.




B Banton April 9th 04 04:06 PM

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:57:02 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer"
wrote:


"Gary" wrote in message
om...
B Banton wrote in message I would also add that

there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.


Although I am a little disappointed in the 2-watts and lack of bass,
reception on my Satellit 800 exceeds that of the Satellit 650 I had
mainly because of the great sideband-selectable sync detector. I also
like the SLOW/FAST AGC on the 800 much better than the manual gain
control on the 650. And since the 800 cost half as much as the 650, I
am very much satisfied with it. The fact that it is made of plastic
doesn't both me as I use it on as a tabletop and to me it doesn't look
or feel cheaply made. I would have loved the 650 if they had added a
sideband-selectable sync detector and a fast/slow AGC. Then it would
have been outstanding.


I dearly loved my Sat. 650, which I bought when they were first released for
a whopping $1199.00 from Lextronics. It was a very good radio for it's
time, but in light of several improvements made in the lines of actual
receiving ability, the 700 and 800 are superior in many ways. Mind you,
nothing beats the sound of older Grundig radios, especially the 600/650,
which were absolutely wonderful for program listening.. However, leaving
aside the selectable sideband synchronous detector, the SSB reception on the
600/650 was particularly atrocious, I never was able to get a clear SSB
signal on it, even when turning the RF gain nearly all the way down (the RF
gain controls seem to be a bit sharp, meaning they go rapidly from zero gain
to too much). I did like the preselector on the 600/650 better than the one
on the 700, mainly because the one on the 700 does not have a memory, and is
difficult to set manually.



My 800 hums slightly when I turn the light on. Does a sync detector
help with that? My battery indicator flashes after about 3 hours of
use. Does turning the gain control up have an effect on that? My 800
can't display the letters USB. How would you have me fix that? They
doubled up the BATT and Attenuate letters. Do you know that? I can't
turn the damn volume knob past 3 before sound distorts. Care to tell
me why they included volume control past that point? Even past the
half-way point? The 800 is an absolute mess. For anyone to defend it
is absolutely incredible IMO. And just another reason why mediocrity
is becoming acceptable. Tell Grundig to stuff that unit up their ever
loving a**.

Regards


the captain April 9th 04 09:06 PM

wrong on all counts

ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message ...
Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)


the captain April 9th 04 09:08 PM

someone wrote an article on fixing the bass


(Gary) wrote in message om...
B Banton wrote in message I would also add that there are only 2 watts out. The old Grundigs
hit 15. Plus they just feel cheap. Like plastic China cheap. You
will be disappointed.


Although I am a little disappointed in the 2-watts and lack of bass,
reception on my Satellit 800 exceeds that of the Satellit 650 I had
mainly because of the great sideband-selectable sync detector. I also
like the SLOW/FAST AGC on the 800 much better than the manual gain
control on the 650. And since the 800 cost half as much as the 650, I
am very much satisfied with it. The fact that it is made of plastic
doesn't both me as I use it on as a tabletop and to me it doesn't look
or feel cheaply made. I would have loved the 650 if they had added a
sideband-selectable sync detector and a fast/slow AGC. Then it would
have been outstanding.


Michael Bryant April 9th 04 09:42 PM

From: (the captain)

wrong on all counts

(Michael Bryant) wrote in message
...
Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive

enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my

old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


How can I be wrong???

Am I deliberately lying to keep myself from being able to sell my radio?

Wow.

Why am I wrong?


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

N8KDV April 9th 04 10:11 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: (the captain)


wrong on all counts

(Michael Bryant) wrote in message
...
Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive

enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my

old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


How can I be wrong???

Am I deliberately lying to keep myself from being able to sell my radio?

Wow.

Why am I wrong?


Because you're always wrong, wrong, wrong Fat Boy!



Volker Tonn April 9th 04 10:29 PM



N8KDV schrieb:


Because you're always wrong, wrong, wrong....


Take your words for yourself.
Take a bath and beware of the whales.


N8KDV April 10th 04 12:15 AM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: (the captain)


wrong on all counts

(Michael Bryant) wrote in message
...
Sat 800 Problems:

1. Obviously a good receiver for program listening, but not sensitive

enough
for anything approaching DX.

2. Gigantic size and weight makes it unwieldy.

3. Bandscanning hampered by digital hash from the display.

4. Low-level AC hum in audio overwhelms DX.

5. Requires 6 D batteries and will drain them in three hours.

I've ended up listening to my DX398 more than the SAT800. Much prefer my

old
Sony 6800W to the 800.


How can I be wrong???

Am I deliberately lying to keep myself from being able to sell my radio?


You deliberately lie about most anything Fat Boy!

It boggles the mind!


Gary April 10th 04 04:06 AM

B Banton wrote in message My 800 hums slightly when I turn the light on. Does a sync detector
help with that? My battery indicator flashes after about 3 hours of
use. Does turning the gain control up have an effect on that? My 800
can't display the letters USB. How would you have me fix that? They
doubled up the BATT and Attenuate letters. Do you know that? I can't
turn the damn volume knob past 3 before sound distorts. Care to tell
me why they included volume control past that point? Even past the
half-way point? The 800 is an absolute mess. For anyone to defend it
is absolutely incredible IMO. And just another reason why mediocrity
is becoming acceptable. Tell Grundig to stuff that unit up their ever
loving a**.

Regards


I'd say you have a defective unit. As far as the display not
displaying the letters USB - that was taken directly from the Drake
SW8 which also cannot display the letters USB. Some of the early
sets, including mine, have a bad adjustment for the battery indicator
and it flashes, like you say, after about 3 hours of use. That was
corrected on later units, so I understand. The other problems you
have seem to be on your set as I do not have those problems with mine.
Mine actually came from the VERY FIRST production batch sent to
Universal Radio and it has been a gem, except for the battery
indicator. But because the set eats up a set of batteries so quickly,
I use the 3-prong AC adapter so don't have the problem anyway. The
amplifier is the same as that used in the Drake SW8. Funny how no one
complains about the Drake units same faults. As far as actual
performance, the Satellit 800 outperforms the SW8, according to lab
tests I have read. Plus the 800 has an internal MW ferrit bar antenna
which is missing on the SW8. Not to mention the S-meter and larger,
better-sounding speaker. Yet the 800 costs hundreds less than the
SW8. No complaints from me. Had I gotten a defective unit, I would
have returned it for another, like I did with my Satellit 700.

B Banton April 10th 04 05:27 AM

On 9 Apr 2004 20:06:28 -0700, (Gary) wrote:

B Banton wrote in message My 800 hums slightly when I turn the light on. Does a sync detector
help with that? My battery indicator flashes after about 3 hours of
use. Does turning the gain control up have an effect on that? My 800
can't display the letters USB. How would you have me fix that? They
doubled up the BATT and Attenuate letters. Do you know that? I can't
turn the damn volume knob past 3 before sound distorts. Care to tell
me why they included volume control past that point? Even past the
half-way point? The 800 is an absolute mess. For anyone to defend it
is absolutely incredible IMO. And just another reason why mediocrity
is becoming acceptable. Tell Grundig to stuff that unit up their ever
loving a**.

Regards


I'd say you have a defective unit. As far as the display not
displaying the letters USB - that was taken directly from the Drake
SW8 which also cannot display the letters USB. Some of the early
sets, including mine, have a bad adjustment for the battery indicator
and it flashes, like you say, after about 3 hours of use. That was
corrected on later units, so I understand. The other problems you
have seem to be on your set as I do not have those problems with mine.
Mine actually came from the VERY FIRST production batch sent to
Universal Radio and it has been a gem, except for the battery
indicator. But because the set eats up a set of batteries so quickly,
I use the 3-prong AC adapter so don't have the problem anyway. The
amplifier is the same as that used in the Drake SW8. Funny how no one
complains about the Drake units same faults. As far as actual
performance, the Satellit 800 outperforms the SW8, according to lab
tests I have read. Plus the 800 has an internal MW ferrit bar antenna
which is missing on the SW8. Not to mention the S-meter and larger,
better-sounding speaker. Yet the 800 costs hundreds less than the
SW8. No complaints from me. Had I gotten a defective unit, I would
have returned it for another, like I did with my Satellit 700.



Well then - it's you my friend that has a problem. You see, many 800
owners claim 20 hours or so of battery run time. You don't get nearly
that and even admit that it's an issue with your "perfect" radio. But
you see it's not perfect. The battery thing sucks because when I want
to lug the anchor down to the porch for awhile I have Mr. Blinking
Battery indicator with me in no time. Quite simply - it's damn
annoying. You've settled my friend. You've lowered the bar. Thanks
to you we all know what to expect from the new 900. I can hear it now
from you - "Well, my first production run 900 is a perfect radio. Oh
it's just that the display goes out periodically. But you can't beat
the SSB. And heck - sometimes I use it in the dark before I go to bed
so who needs the display anyway?. Good luck.

Jeff Seale April 10th 04 02:37 PM

B Banton wrote:

My 800 hums slightly when I turn the light on. Does a sync detector
help with that? My battery indicator flashes after about 3 hours of
use. Does turning the gain control up have an effect on that? My 800
can't display the letters USB. How would you have me fix that? They
doubled up the BATT and Attenuate letters. Do you know that? I can't
turn the damn volume knob past 3 before sound distorts. Care to tell
me why they included volume control past that point? Even past the
half-way point? The 800 is an absolute mess. For anyone to defend it
is absolutely incredible IMO. And just another reason why mediocrity
is becoming acceptable. Tell Grundig to stuff that unit up their ever
loving a**.

Regards


The only problem I experience with mine is false signals all over the SW
band, and they tend to move around too. I sometimes wonder if having my
PC near the radio is causing the problem. I use the PC for RTTY/fax
reception, of course. This radio is great for that kinda' thing. I also
wish I could sync the two clocks on this thing. I use one for local time
and one for GMT. It's a pretty darn cool radio anyway.

Jeff Seale
Yet another SWL in Louisville, KY
Satellit 800, YB550PE

Rob R. April 10th 04 03:06 PM

Well, here's another bad experience....I just sent back my second Sat800 as
both were defective. The first one had a loud hum in the background when
using earphones, and the 2nd one was a real mess...it had the same loud hum,
plus the Air Band didn't work, the battery cover fit so tight, it pulled the
batteries away from their contacts and shut down when you slid the battery
cover closed, and, finally the antenna wouldn't pull all the way out,
because the bottom piece with the swivel ball had gotten bent inside and it
only went straight up...wouldn't rotate or bend...It's too bad...I really
like the looks of the radio but I will not try another...people seem to love
it if they get a good one, but far too many have problems...
73
Rob R




"Gary" wrote in message
om...
B Banton wrote in message My 800 hums slightly

when I turn the light on. Does a sync detector
help with that? My battery indicator flashes after about 3 hours of
use. Does turning the gain control up have an effect on that? My 800
can't display the letters USB. How would you have me fix that? They
doubled up the BATT and Attenuate letters. Do you know that? I can't
turn the damn volume knob past 3 before sound distorts. Care to tell
me why they included volume control past that point? Even past the
half-way point? The 800 is an absolute mess. For anyone to defend it
is absolutely incredible IMO. And just another reason why mediocrity
is becoming acceptable. Tell Grundig to stuff that unit up their ever
loving a**.

Regards


I'd say you have a defective unit. As far as the display not
displaying the letters USB - that was taken directly from the Drake
SW8 which also cannot display the letters USB. Some of the early
sets, including mine, have a bad adjustment for the battery indicator
and it flashes, like you say, after about 3 hours of use. That was
corrected on later units, so I understand. The other problems you
have seem to be on your set as I do not have those problems with mine.
Mine actually came from the VERY FIRST production batch sent to
Universal Radio and it has been a gem, except for the battery
indicator. But because the set eats up a set of batteries so quickly,
I use the 3-prong AC adapter so don't have the problem anyway. The
amplifier is the same as that used in the Drake SW8. Funny how no one
complains about the Drake units same faults. As far as actual
performance, the Satellit 800 outperforms the SW8, according to lab
tests I have read. Plus the 800 has an internal MW ferrit bar antenna
which is missing on the SW8. Not to mention the S-meter and larger,
better-sounding speaker. Yet the 800 costs hundreds less than the
SW8. No complaints from me. Had I gotten a defective unit, I would
have returned it for another, like I did with my Satellit 700.




Gary April 10th 04 04:42 PM

B Banton wrote in message
Well then - it's you my friend that has a problem. You see, many 800
owners claim 20 hours or so of battery run time. You don't get nearly
that and even admit that it's an issue with your "perfect" radio. But
you see it's not perfect. The battery thing sucks because when I want
to lug the anchor down to the porch for awhile I have Mr. Blinking
Battery indicator with me in no time. Quite simply - it's damn
annoying. You've settled my friend. You've lowered the bar. Thanks
to you we all know what to expect from the new 900. I can hear it now
from you - "Well, my first production run 900 is a perfect radio. Oh
it's just that the display goes out periodically. But you can't beat
the SSB. And heck - sometimes I use it in the dark before I go to bed
so who needs the display anyway?. Good luck.


No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely said
the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries
which, to me, is a waste of money. I've heard of others having the
battery meter problem fixed, so no big deal. Every radio on the
market has had some problems. It took SONY several YEARS to correct
all the initial production problems with the 2010, which most everyone
thinks is one of the best portable radios available.
What radio do you own that is perfect in everything?

Brenda Ann Dyer April 10th 04 11:26 PM


"Gary" wrote in message
m...
No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely said
the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries
which, to me, is a waste of money.


One expects such a large radio with so much energy-intensive circuitry to
suck down the batteries.. most boom-boxes have atrociously short battery
life. I find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries.. even if
you don't use the radio, the batteries will die within a couple weeks or
so.. and if you do use it, you get far less than 20 hours (of course, those
are AA, and not D size.. )




Telamon April 11th 04 12:28 AM

In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

"Gary" wrote in message
m...
No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely said
the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries
which, to me, is a waste of money.


One expects such a large radio with so much energy-intensive circuitry to
suck down the batteries.. most boom-boxes have atrociously short battery
life. I find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries.. even if
you don't use the radio, the batteries will die within a couple weeks or
so.. and if you do use it, you get far less than 20 hours (of course, those
are AA, and not D size.. )


A box the size of the SAT 800 uses AA batteries? With all that room why
did they do that? A good modification would be to install a D cell pack
or some type of rechargeable battery.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Brenda Ann Dyer April 11th 04 12:49 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

"Gary" wrote in message
m...
No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely said
the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries
which, to me, is a waste of money.


One expects such a large radio with so much energy-intensive circuitry

to
suck down the batteries.. most boom-boxes have atrociously short battery
life. I find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries..

even if
you don't use the radio, the batteries will die within a couple weeks or
so.. and if you do use it, you get far less than 20 hours (of course,

those
are AA, and not D size.. )


A box the size of the SAT 800 uses AA batteries? With all that room why
did they do that? A good modification would be to install a D cell pack
or some type of rechargeable battery.


No no... the YB-400 uses the AA batteries.. I guess I was not too clear..
Guess Stephen King has nothing to worry about from my writing skills.. :)




Jim Hackett April 11th 04 01:06 AM

Although, you COULD put a 12 volt motorcycle battery into the Sat 800. The
handle would probably break when you try to lift it ;)



"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote:

"Gary" wrote in message
m...
No where did I say how many hours I get with batteries - I merely

said
the set eats them up quickly. I get at least 20 hours on batteries
which, to me, is a waste of money.

One expects such a large radio with so much energy-intensive circuitry

to
suck down the batteries.. most boom-boxes have atrociously short

battery
life. I find the Grundig YB-400 to be especially bad on batteries..

even if
you don't use the radio, the batteries will die within a couple weeks

or
so.. and if you do use it, you get far less than 20 hours (of course,

those
are AA, and not D size.. )


A box the size of the SAT 800 uses AA batteries? With all that room why
did they do that? A good modification would be to install a D cell pack
or some type of rechargeable battery.


No no... the YB-400 uses the AA batteries.. I guess I was not too clear..
Guess Stephen King has nothing to worry about from my writing skills.. :)







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