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Old April 10th 04, 06:56 AM
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They don't mention when.....

From the San Jose Mercury News 04/09/2004

AIR AMERICA IN BAY AREA: Air America, the liberal talk network, will take
over two Asian-language stations in San Francisco and San Jose -- but the
date hasn't been confirmed.

The liberal network was originally scheduled to start April 15, but a news
release issued Thursday did not specify the date and no confirmation was
available.

The network did say it would be heard in English on San Jose's KVVN-AM
(1430) and San Francisco's KVTO-AM (1400) both of which now broadcast in
Chinese and Korean. The stations are owned by the Inner City Communications
Corp., which also owns San Francisco's KBLX-FM (102.9).

With 24-hours-a-day of liberal programming, including comedian-author Al
Franken, rapper Chuck D and actress Janeane Garofalo, it is a response to
Rush Limbaugh and conservative talkers who dominate the medium now. Air
America began broadcasting last month.


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"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Sat 10 Apr 2004 01:56:08a, "jaycee"

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They don't mention when.....

From the San Jose Mercury News 04/09/2004

AIR AMERICA IN BAY AREA: Air America, the liberal talk network,

will
take over two Asian-language stations in San Francisco and San

Jose --
but the date hasn't been confirmed.



It would appear to me that, if one of their stated goals is to

influence
(where possible) the upcoming Presidential election, wouldn't two

stations
in San Fran be "Preaching To The Choir", writ large?



Definitely, but I suspect they realize that getting some ratings
courtesy of the members of the choir is also an important goal in the
early stages. In any event , it's a more achievable goal than having
Chuck D influence the election.


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Old April 10th 04, 09:25 PM
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Quoth "-=jd=-" in :

It would appear to me that, if one of their stated goals is to influence
(where possible) the upcoming Presidential election, wouldn't two stations
in San Fran be "Preaching To The Choir", writ large?


The two stations simulcast, covering different areas around the city.

And judging from what I read on ba.broadcast, even with two stations,
they'll be preaching to a relatively small choir.

See http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVVN&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
and http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVTO&service=AM&status=L&hours=U
for some idea of their coverage.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 10th 04, 10:13 PM
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Can I have a hit of whatever you're smoking? Those 2 stations seem to
cover the entire bay area.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
wrote:

Quoth "-=jd=-" in :

It would appear to me that, if one of their stated goals is to influence
(where possible) the upcoming Presidential election, wouldn't two stations
in San Fran be "Preaching To The Choir", writ large?


The two stations simulcast, covering different areas around the city.

And judging from what I read on ba.broadcast, even with two stations,
they'll be preaching to a relatively small choir.

See http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVVN&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
and http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVTO&service=AM&status=L&hours=U
for some idea of their coverage.


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Old April 10th 04, 10:59 PM
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In article ,
Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth "-=jd=-" in
:

It would appear to me that, if one of their stated goals is to influence
(where possible) the upcoming Presidential election, wouldn't two stations
in San Fran be "Preaching To The Choir", writ large?


The two stations simulcast, covering different areas around the city.

And judging from what I read on ba.broadcast, even with two stations,
they'll be preaching to a relatively small choir.

See
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVVN&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
and
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVTO&service=AM&status=L&hours=U
for some idea of their coverage.


Nice radio station locator link with coverage map. Thanks Tom

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Telamon
Ventura, California


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Old April 10th 04, 11:36 PM
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth "-=jd=-" in
:

It would appear to me that, if one of their stated goals is to
influence
(where possible) the upcoming Presidential election, wouldn't two
stations
in San Fran be "Preaching To The Choir", writ large?


The two stations simulcast, covering different areas around the city.

And judging from what I read on ba.broadcast, even with two stations,
they'll be preaching to a relatively small choir.

See
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVVN&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
and
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KVTO&service=AM&status=L&hours=U
for some idea of their coverage.


Nice radio station locator link with coverage map. Thanks Tom


Remember that the radio-locator.com maps are labeled as "for entertainment
purpose only" and the inner of the circles or contours is still an
exaggeration of the real, consistent city coverage.

The two stations mentioned cover well only about 40% or less of the San
Francisco metro radio market.


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Old April 10th 04, 11:38 PM
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"David" wrote in message
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Can I have a hit of whatever you're smoking? Those 2 stations seem to
cover the entire bay area.


The radio-locator maps are, well, generous.

The San Francisco metro runs from Santa Rosa to Campbell, and east into the
valley. Those two stations only cover a fraction of the area in reality.


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Old April 11th 04, 12:09 AM
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Quoth "David Eduardo" in
. com:

"David" wrote in message
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Can I have a hit of whatever you're smoking? Those 2 stations seem to
cover the entire bay area.


The radio-locator maps are, well, generous.


That's being optimistic. In my experience with them, pretty much except for
the powerhouses, only the indicated local area is anything like listenable.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 11th 04, 12:18 AM
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In article ,
Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth "David Eduardo" in
. com:

"David" wrote in message
...
Can I have a hit of whatever you're smoking? Those 2 stations seem to
cover the entire bay area.


The radio-locator maps are, well, generous.


That's being optimistic. In my experience with them, pretty much except for
the powerhouses, only the indicated local area is anything like listenable.


This site is flat file data base on: Call sign, Frequency, Transmitter
distance to you, City, Owner and format. It also has links to the
stations web sites if they have one.

I have already found it to be very handy for reprogramming the car radio.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old April 11th 04, 12:32 AM
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"David Eduardo" wrotf:

The radio-locator maps are, well, generous.


Generous coverage maps are a hallowed industry tradition.

Recently Larry Woods brought in some copies of Broadcast Digest from the
early '30s. This was a TV Guide sort of publication featuring stories and
program listings for west coast AM stations.

One of the biggest station advertisers was KJBS--then licensed at 100 watts
from that famous transmitter on Pine Street. "Generous" doesn't being to
describe the coverage map in their ads. (Although it's worth pointing out
that the best receivers of that time, connected to external long wire
antennas and confronted with a relatively unpopulated band, ran sensitivity
rings around most modern AM consumer sets.)

Of note is that their morning show was "The Alarm Clock Club"that early. It
was still called that in the '50s when Frank Cope was the popular jock.

Don Sherwood de-throned him.

Norm Howard
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