Air America Radio: Hypocritical & Desperate
 

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Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml

Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB. Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging, informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America -- providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?

The hypocrisy lies not in Air America, but rather in Mr. Mullenax's
protestations.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
...
Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml

Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to
his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air
America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by
the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB.
Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and
now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time
providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging,
informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have
the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City
may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related
to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America --
providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?

I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not. Did they (i.e., is Air America now where this
programming was previously)?

I also find this rather confusing. You refer to wide-ranging,
informative and entertaining programming. But I thought we were
talking about Air America?

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

When I was a kid I sat in the studio with Bob Sievers when he did his show on
WOWO.

I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. My grandparents farm was just up the hill
from the transmitter site, and I used to go down there and hang out. My
grandfather used to mow the area around the transmitter/tower site.

One set of grandparents lived in the city, the others had the farm.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

- Sorry to hear that, Ray;

There are a few stations that have been treated the same way round here;
- Loop antenna help, or have they changed the format to something else?

Here in NYC, occasionally we can pick up WWVA, out of Wheeling, west Virginia;
- but only on certain nights..
& I DID like the Caribbean music WLIB used to play up here

Dan

In article , "Corbin Ray"
writes:

Subject: WLIB killed WOWO
From: "Corbin Ray"
Date: 13 Apr 2004 15:46:19 GMT

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

N8KDV wrote:

Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

When I was a kid I sat in the studio with Bob Sievers when he did his show on
WOWO.

I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. My grandparents farm was just up the hill
from the transmitter site, and I used to go down there and hang out. My
grandfather used to mow the area around the transmitter/tower site.

One set of grandparents lived in the city, the others had the farm.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


As a VERY begining DX'er in the early sixties, (Detroit), WOWO was
one of the very first stations I received clearly from another state
(read: "From a foreign country" in the mind of a 13-year-old boy). I,
too, liked their programming, and their reliability - as Corbin said,
they covered the whole midwest, and were always there, every night.
Change is the only constant, but it's really sad to see some things go.

Tony

Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

You mentioned WLS, which I'm listening to right now. Yesterday, April 12 was
their actual 80th anniversary according to them.

They have been making announcements all year that this is their 80th
anniversary.

I think I've been listening to them for perhaps 46 of those 80 years as I had an
early interest in radio from about 5 years of age onward.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

Diverd4777 wrote:
Here in NYC, occasionally we can pick up WWVA, out of Wheeling, west Virginia;
- but only on certain nights..

You can't rely on WWVA when it rains. They automatically cut into anything with
weather bureau rain warnings and you miss the punch lines. Clear Channel at work.

I go to an alternate Rush on rainy days (WDAO Dayton, though they're maniacs for
traffic tieup breaking news. Nobody just plays the damn program anymore).

I'd listen to the Columbus local WTVN for Rush but they delay it an hour so the hell with
them; also they play Rush with an annoying echo special-effect that the program director
thinks is erotic. Maybe if they turned it off people could listen at lunch.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

I listen to WWVA for the 10:00 P.M. Coal Mine report;
- Which I find fascinating.
here in NYC, its all Stock Markets; Out in the Midwest it's all Feed grain
prices;
In L.A it's all Traffic & entertainment
& in Saudi Arabia, I suppose it's all Oil,
& what Schools are giving specials on Pilot Licences or something

Dan ( Listening to BBC on 12.095 & Randi Rhodes on 1.190 )



In article , Ron Hardin
writes:


Diverd4777 wrote:
Here in NYC, occasionally we can pick up WWVA, out of Wheeling, west
Virginia;
- but only on certain nights..

You can't rely on WWVA when it rains. They automatically cut into anything
with
weather bureau rain warnings and you miss the punch lines. Clear Channel at
work.

I go to an alternate Rush on rainy days (WDAO Dayton, though they're maniacs
for
traffic tieup breaking news. Nobody just plays the damn program anymore).

I'd listen to the Columbus local WTVN for Rush but they delay it an hour so
the hell with
them; also they play Rush with an annoying echo special-effect that the
program director
thinks is erotic. Maybe if they turned it off people could listen at lunch.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

There were, at the time of the facilities changes on WOWO, stations with
night operations in Kansas City, Anaheim, CA, Portland, OR (50 kw KEX), San
Juan, PR and Dallas, TX. In addition, a dominant station on 1190 is KEWK, a
10 kw operation in Guadalajara, Mexico, as well as a half-dozen other
fulltimers in Mexico on 1190. WOWO was always directional, going back to
when Westinghouse downgraded it a half-century or more ago so KEX could
become a 1-B clear channel station. It sent little power to the West, to
protect KEX. And KEX did the same so it could run 50 kw. It got a signal
into parts of eastern Ontario, some of Quebec and occasionally in the
Maritimes... but much of that is Francophone and WOWO was hardly of
interest.

WOWO was limited to consistent coverage of maybe a dozen states or parts of
them at night, and NE Indiana, South Central Michigan and a piece of Ohio in
daytime.

Since very little radio listening is done at night (and hasn't been since
the 50's), the important issue is whether the station has decent coverage of
the Ft. Wayne market. Even nearby markets and towns, which did not have
local stations in the 50's and before, now have, in most cases, too many
stations.

David Eduardo wrote:

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

Sure they did... in one form or another!

WLS even states on the air at times how many states they cover, and it's similar
to the 38 state claim....

It's marketing.... and DX!

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to his
rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone.

"Peripatetic" means "walking" or "one who walks."

"Corbin Ray" wrote ...

Remember what happened to WOWO, 50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that
covered 38 states and half of Canada?

Remember it well. Before FM played rock, night time AM was all we had.
WKBW / 1510 / Buffalo - Tom Shannon and others.
WABC / 770 / NYC / Cousin Brucie.
WOWO - Ft. Wayne
WLS - Chicago
CKLW / 800 / Somewhere in Canada - came on when our local 800 left the air.
WWVA / 1170 / Wheeling - had to love those pre-profit Stair preachers.

Wanna go waaaaayyyyy back?
WCKY / Cincinnati One, Ohio .. Wayne Rainey and the Rainey Family.

I miss 'em all. :-(

[ Moderator's note: CKLW is in Windsor, Ontario, across the river from
Detroit. They are still on the air and you can visit their website at
http://www.am800cklw.com/ . CKLW-FM 93.9 flipped formats from Oldies to
Adult Album Alternative a number of years ago and became CIDR, 93.9 The River.
When I left that part of the country last year they'd flipped again, to some
sort of Soft Rock format. ]

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

There were, at the time of the facilities changes on WOWO, stations with
night operations in Kansas City, Anaheim, CA, Portland, OR (50 kw KEX), San
Juan, PR and Dallas, TX. In addition, a dominant station on 1190 is KEWK, a
10 kw operation in Guadalajara, Mexico, as well as a half-dozen other
fulltimers in Mexico on 1190. WOWO was always directional, going back to
when Westinghouse downgraded it a half-century or more ago so KEX could
become a 1-B clear channel station. It sent little power to the West, to
protect KEX. And KEX did the same so it could run 50 kw. It got a signal
into parts of eastern Ontario, some of Quebec and occasionally in the
Maritimes... but much of that is Francophone and WOWO was hardly of
interest.

WOWO was limited to consistent coverage of maybe a dozen states or parts of
them at night, and NE Indiana, South Central Michigan and a piece of Ohio in
daytime.

Since very little radio listening is done at night (and hasn't been since
the 50's), the important issue is whether the station has decent coverage of
the Ft. Wayne market. Even nearby markets and towns, which did not have
local stations in the 50's and before, now have, in most cases, too many
stations.

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing
one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to
WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half
of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

Sure they did... in one form or another!

WLS even states on the air at times how many states they cover, and it's
similar
to the 38 state claim....

It's marketing.... and DX!



We used to love listening to John "Records" Lyendecker on WLS, and it came
in just fine in Southern Mississippi. It was the best "large market" radio
you could hear.

-- Stinger

Stinger wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing
one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to
WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half
of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

Sure they did... in one form or another!

WLS even states on the air at times how many states they cover, and it's
similar
to the 38 state claim....

It's marketing.... and DX!



We used to love listening to John "Records" Lyendecker on WLS, and it came
in just fine in Southern Mississippi. It was the best "large market" radio
you could hear.

Those were the days!

Don't know whether you caught my earlier post but yesterday was the 80th
Anniversary of WLS...

According to them anyway.

It was 'Landecker' by the way, he was on a lot of other stations too.

N8KDV wrote:

Stinger wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing
one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to
WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half
of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

Sure they did... in one form or another!

WLS even states on the air at times how many states they cover, and it's
similar
to the 38 state claim....

It's marketing.... and DX!



We used to love listening to John "Records" Lyendecker on WLS, and it came
in just fine in Southern Mississippi. It was the best "large market" radio
you could hear.

Those were the days!

Don't know whether you caught my earlier post but yesterday was the 80th
Anniversary of WLS...

According to them anyway.

It was 'Landecker' by the way, he was on a lot of other stations too.

He may still be on WGN 720...

"Stinger" wrote in
:

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

WOWO was a blowtorch in NC when I was growing up (1960s).

N8KDV wrote:

Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

When I was a kid I sat in the studio with Bob Sievers when he did his show on
WOWO.

Bob Sievers was/is W9FJT.. W9 Fifty Jumping Tigers as I recall...

I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. My grandparents farm was just up the hill
from the transmitter site, and I used to go down there and hang out. My
grandfather used to mow the area around the transmitter/tower site.

One set of grandparents lived in the city, the others had the farm.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

In article ,
Ron Hardin wrote:

Diverd4777 wrote:
Here in NYC, occasionally we can pick up WWVA, out of Wheeling, west
Virginia;
- but only on certain nights..

You can't rely on WWVA when it rains. They automatically cut into anything
with
weather bureau rain warnings and you miss the punch lines. Clear Channel at
work.

I grew up in Wheeling in the 60s and 70s. In those days, you could
pretty much clip a pair of headphones to your bedsprings and listen to
WWVA! Kathryn Kuhlman on Sunday nights!

I could regularly get them in the 80s when I moved here (Florida), but I
haven't heard them here in years. Now I read that Clear Channel wants
to sell them off and/or lower the power.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


N8KDV wrote:

Stinger wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for
killing
one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what
happened to
WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and
half
of
Canada?

First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

Sure they did... in one form or another!

WLS even states on the air at times how many states they cover, and
it's
similar
to the 38 state claim....

It's marketing.... and DX!



We used to love listening to John "Records" Lyendecker on WLS, and it
came
in just fine in Southern Mississippi. It was the best "large market"
radio
you could hear.

Those were the days!

Don't know whether you caught my earlier post but yesterday was the 80th
Anniversary of WLS...

According to them anyway.

It was 'Landecker' by the way, he was on a lot of other stations too.

He may still be on WGN 720...


Boogie check! Boogie Check! Hoo!....Ha!

Those really were the days.

-- Stinger

"Dan" wrote in message
...

I grew up in Wheeling in the 60s and 70s. In those days, you could
pretty much clip a pair of headphones to your bedsprings and listen to
WWVA! Kathryn Kuhlman on Sunday nights!

I could regularly get them in the 80s when I moved here (Florida), but I
haven't heard them here in years. Now I read that Clear Channel wants
to sell them off and/or lower the power.

They want to move the station to a town SW of Cleveland. Application filed,
along with over 1200 others, in the January window.

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada?

I love the passion of the serious radio listener, they *don't* forget. That
would be the same as if that happened to 700WLW *The Nations Station*.....I
listen everyday at certain intervals.

I would feel the same. Good post Corbin.

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WOWO was a blowtorch in NC when I was growing up (1960s).

Speaking of 'blowtorches'......I could hear WLW as a child in Pisgah....say
1970 (down the road from the antenna setup) without aid of a radio.

That is NO lie. Now that's a 'blowtorch'....and my Grandpa and Grandma and my
Dad talked about how they could hear it in certain places of the house.

You hear stories like this from old-timers who lived in the Pisgah area or by
the VOA site ALL the time.

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Sloper
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*

Quoth "T. Early" in
:

I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not.

No, the owners of the station replaced programming by CAA. With Air America.

By the way, CAA's programming still has a home on weekends.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

(LW) wrote in message ...
"Corbin Ray" wrote ...

Remember what happened to WOWO,

I remember listening not only to WOWO but to all the other stations in
the eastern US and Canada that have been mentioned. My radio of choice
was an RCA AA5 from the late fifties with Conelrad frequencies marked
on the dial. The one thing I remember more than anything else about
WOWO is, of course:

The Fort Wayne Komets
http://www.komets.com/index2.html

Without the website, I never would have known that "Komets" was
spelled with a "k".

"LW" wrote :
| WLS - Chicago

I actually get a little choked up when I think of
what WLS was. This was a station I grew up
with. Fred Winston, Larry Lujack ("Superjock"),
Steve Dahl and Garry Meiers.

Ulp. It's happening again.

Ditto on CKLW. I believe John "Records"
Landecker came to WLS from CKLW.

Boy, those *were* the days, no kidding.
I remember the days of "musicradio" (all
one word), and the top 40 format. I wanted
to be a part of the world of radio, and that
world no longer exists.

Oh, yeah, WLAC, too.

I remember the *good* days of radio.
Nothing sounds better than a fat, well - modulated
good - fidelity AM signal, fading, the phase of the
carrier shifting like a porch swing in the wind.

I thought that made music sound *better.*

73,

SL


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"T. Early" wrote in message
...

I also find this rather confusing. You refer to wide-ranging,
informative and entertaining programming. But I thought we were
talking about Air America?

LOL!

"Stinger" wrote:

We used to love listening to John "Records" Lyendecker on WLS, and it came
in just fine in Southern Mississippi. It was the best "large market" radio
you could hear.

-- Stinger

(See my thread, posted yesterday, on this topic.)

Those *really* were the days, and WLS was more
than a radio station. An outstanding, and highly
recommended, site would be www.wlshistory.com.
Every time I visit that website, I really get
choked up, especially when I listen to the airchecks.

I realize that, with every passing year, I'm turning
into my Dad, especially when I say "Those were the days."

73,

Steve Lawrence
KA0PMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
...
Quoth "T. Early" in
:

I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether
Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not.

No, the owners of the station replaced programming by CAA. With Air
America.

By the way, CAA's programming still has a home on weekends.



That's a reasonable distinction. So should I assume that Air America
representatives did not approach the owners with an offer, knowing
that acceptance of the offer would result in CAA programming being
replaced?

Thanks, Bearcat. Besides, I think WLW used to have 500,000 watts or
something like that, so you're probably rf-damaged for the rest of your
life. I bet you glow in the dark and make fluorescent lights come on when
you walk in the room.

I downloaded OTS Juke so I play radio on my computer, and I've got some WLS
jingles intermixed with my music. And since the program has an excellent
dynamic processor, I try to create the Big 89 sound as closely as possible.
I'm still in the tweaking stage (as I have been for over two years).

I don't stream my "station" or anything, just play it for my sake till my
wife makes me turn it down.

On 14 Apr 2004 14:42:59 GMT, "T. Early"
wrote:

That's a reasonable distinction. So should I assume that Air America
representatives did not approach the owners with an offer, knowing
that acceptance of the offer would result in CAA programming being
replaced?

Offers like this are made every day. Broadcasting is win-lose
business. If one show comes in another has to go out.

WLIB is a commercial entity. If it's losing money because no one is
listening and they can't sell time, something has to give. Supposing
BET had a radio network and made the same deal? CAA programming would
go, also.

You can't blame Air America for seeing an opportunity and making
something of it.

Rich

Err, correction: "Relive," not "relieve."

73,

SL

"Corbin Ray" wrote:

I downloaded OTS Juke so I play radio on my computer, and I've got some WLS
jingles intermixed with my music. And since the program has an excellent
dynamic processor, I try to create the Big 89 sound as closely as possible.
I'm still in the tweaking stage (as I have been for over two years).

I don't stream my "station" or anything, just play it for my sake till my
wife makes me turn it down.

Truly cool! Yes, WLS had a sound that was
fatter than my Aunt Mary Kay, with a huge
bottom, to boot! I've visited the WLSHISTORY
webpage numerous times, and played the jingles
and listened to the airchecks, and, while I
was doing so, I realized that it isn't too
common to relieve *happy* memories, but I did.

When I listen to old airchecks of WLS, I relive
fishing with my late father, shoveling snow for
pocket money in those gloomy winters, going to
movies with my pals, and a couple of awkward
attempts at dating.

I hate to quote Carly Simon, but "these are the
good old days." Still, listening to airchecks of
WLS from ages past reminds me of how I came to
be who I am now.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KA0PMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"Rich Wood" wrote in message
...
On 14 Apr 2004 14:42:59 GMT, "T. Early"
wrote:

That's a reasonable distinction. So should I assume that Air
America
representatives did not approach the owners with an offer, knowing
that acceptance of the offer would result in CAA programming being
replaced?

Offers like this are made every day. Broadcasting is win-lose
business. If one show comes in another has to go out.

WLIB is a commercial entity. If it's losing money because no one is
listening and they can't sell time, something has to give. Supposing
BET had a radio network and made the same deal? CAA programming
would
go, also.

You can't blame Air America for seeing an opportunity and making
something of it.


I don't blame 'em, but this thread has gotten long enough where the
original context, which concerned an article linked to by the original
poster, has gotten lost. The author of the article (which was
admittedly over the top) found some irony in the fact that a network
catering to those who are usually obsessed with multiculturism and
speech outlets for the "disenfranchised" would themselves
"disenfranchise" this type of programming. Another poster (also
above) took issue with this characterization, and it seems to me that
who did what to whom -is- relevant in that context. I also think it's
a reasonable assumption that had WLIB's programming been replaced by,
say, Michael Medved or Mike Reagan, we'd be hearing a lot about the
loss of CAA's "voice" from those who support Air America.

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message ...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.

That "noisy whisper"- Glad to see that the station and Mr. Limbaugh
have become a noisy whisper. We need as much fresh and QUIET air as we
can get!

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio

I think I might have an audiotape I recorded of WOWO back in the 70's or 80's
from my location.

If I find it, I'll put it up on a website as a realplayer file.

I know I recoreded some of WOWO, because I used to listen to Ron Gregory's
"Hollywierd Report"