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Old April 12th 04, 03:47 PM
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Old April 13th 04, 03:23 AM
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Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
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http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml


Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB. Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging, informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America -- providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?

The hypocrisy lies not in Air America, but rather in Mr. Mullenax's
protestations.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

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Old April 13th 04, 04:46 PM
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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
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Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml


Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to

his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air

America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by

the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB.

Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and

now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time

providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging,

informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have

the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City

may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related

to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America --

providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?


I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not. Did they (i.e., is Air America now where this
programming was previously)?

I also find this rather confusing. You refer to wide-ranging,
informative and entertaining programming. But I thought we were
talking about Air America?




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Old April 14th 04, 06:29 AM
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Quoth "T. Early" in
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I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not.


No, the owners of the station replaced programming by CAA. With Air America.

By the way, CAA's programming still has a home on weekends.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
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Quoth "T. Early" in
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I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether

Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not.


No, the owners of the station replaced programming by CAA. With Air

America.

By the way, CAA's programming still has a home on weekends.



That's a reasonable distinction. So should I assume that Air America
representatives did not approach the owners with an offer, knowing
that acceptance of the offer would result in CAA programming being
replaced?





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Old April 15th 04, 05:15 PM
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On 14 Apr 2004 14:42:59 GMT, "T. Early"
wrote:

That's a reasonable distinction. So should I assume that Air America
representatives did not approach the owners with an offer, knowing
that acceptance of the offer would result in CAA programming being
replaced?


Offers like this are made every day. Broadcasting is win-lose
business. If one show comes in another has to go out.

WLIB is a commercial entity. If it's losing money because no one is
listening and they can't sell time, something has to give. Supposing
BET had a radio network and made the same deal? CAA programming would
go, also.

You can't blame Air America for seeing an opportunity and making
something of it.

Rich

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"T. Early" wrote in message
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I also find this rather confusing. You refer to wide-ranging,
informative and entertaining programming. But I thought we were
talking about Air America?


LOL!



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I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.



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Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.


When I was a kid I sat in the studio with Bob Sievers when he did his show on
WOWO.

I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. My grandparents farm was just up the hill
from the transmitter site, and I used to go down there and hang out. My
grandfather used to mow the area around the transmitter/tower site.

One set of grandparents lived in the city, the others had the farm.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



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N8KDV wrote:

Corbin Ray wrote:

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.


When I was a kid I sat in the studio with Bob Sievers when he did his show on
WOWO.

I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. My grandparents farm was just up the hill
from the transmitter site, and I used to go down there and hang out. My
grandfather used to mow the area around the transmitter/tower site.

One set of grandparents lived in the city, the others had the farm.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



As a VERY begining DX'er in the early sixties, (Detroit), WOWO was
one of the very first stations I received clearly from another state
(read: "From a foreign country" in the mind of a 13-year-old boy). I,
too, liked their programming, and their reliability - as Corbin said,
they covered the whole midwest, and were always there, every night.
Change is the only constant, but it's really sad to see some things go.

Tony


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