"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...

Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those
two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone
else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu
that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.


OK, I don't have any first hand knowledge of the facts. Let's say Liu is a
sleazeball. Why stop his check? Take him to arbitration. Take him to
court. Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.

Frank Dresser

Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
:

Take him to court.

That's happening now.

Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.

That will doubtless happen after the TRO has been issued.

And if Liu appeals the TRO, AA will be back on the air AND will be getting
huge press as a result of the suit.

In addition, AA, added six new affiliates today.


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"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Frank Dresser wrote:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...

Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those
two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone
else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu
that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.


OK, I don't have any first hand knowledge of the facts. Let's say Liu is a
sleazeball. Why stop his check? Take him to arbitration. Take him to
court. Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.

Like Dish Network, who abruptly and without warning yanked BOTH Viacom
(including local CBS affiliates) and Turner Broadcasting because they
wouldn't roll over and agree to EchoStar's terms without protesting? It
seems that pulling the plug when the tenant complains is getting common
in broadcasting nowadays.

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those
two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone
else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu
that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

Air America says Liu is ripping them off for a million bucks. Let's see --
60 days x 24 hours = 1440 hours. $1,000,000 / 1440 = $694.44!

Can small time stations really bill almost $700 an hour? Amazing! Air
America should buy 150 hours of time from Alan Weiner, and he can buy his
windmill!

Frank Dresser

Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
:

Air America has some sort of advertising beef with the LA
station.

Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those
two months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from
someone but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it
to someone else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they
notified Liu that they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their
contract and stopped payment on one check for the LA station per their
contract. Liu, in violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA
and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.




--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

"Tom Betz" wrote

| According to Air America, Arthur Liu (the radio station owner) is a lying
| sleazebag.

Oh, sure, the KoolAid drikers have been duped!
Now it all makes sense.

I choose to believe they've exhibited, at the least,
poor judgment in locating a suitable broadcast
outlet for their drivel, but I suppose you can believe
whatever you like, if that makes you feel better.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KA0PMD
Burnsville, Minnesota


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Quoth "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" in
ink.net:

I choose to believe they've exhibited, at the least,
poor judgment in locating a suitable broadcast
outlet

I'll agree with you there. It turns out (based on a review of FEC donation
records) that Arthur Liu, who owns the Chicago and LA stations, is a sleazy
republican.

But I repeat myself...

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" in
ink.net:

I choose to believe they've exhibited, at the least,
poor judgment in locating a suitable broadcast
outlet

I'll agree with you there. It turns out (based on a review of FEC donation
records) that Arthur Liu, who owns the Chicago and LA stations, is a sleazy
republican.

But I repeat myself...

It's hard to believe that Air America couldn't find a more sympathetic
station owner to run their stuff.

tommyknocker wrote in
:

It's hard to believe that Air America couldn't find a more sympathetic
station owner to run their stuff.

Their initial plan was to buy outright six radio stations, but right now,
with media consolidation in full swing and the FCC's loose rules about
multiple-station ownership allowing concentration of ownership in few
hands, that wasn't possible.

LA and Chicago are tight radio markets. They had to do business with
someone who was losing money with what was being aired before.


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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "Mark S. Holden" in :
According to Air America, Arthur Liu (the radio station owner) is a lying
sleazebag.

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=7&id=4851

Takes a moron to believe a moron.
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