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Old April 15th 04, 02:00 AM
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Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
:

Air America has some sort of advertising beef with the LA
station.


Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.

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charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 15th 04, 02:02 AM
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Quoth "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" in
ink.net:

I choose to believe they've exhibited, at the least,
poor judgment in locating a suitable broadcast
outlet


I'll agree with you there. It turns out (based on a review of FEC donation
records) that Arthur Liu, who owns the Chicago and LA stations, is a sleazy
republican.

But I repeat myself...

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"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 15th 04, 02:09 AM
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"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
ink.net...


In broadcastspeak, Air America is a "clambake."

Poor judgment, coupled with detestably boring programming,
equals failure right out of the gates.


Maybe the current people will figure out what they're trying to do soon.
(doesn't seem likely). Maybe somebody else will get it right. (That's a
possibility).

Too bad, I really looked forward to a diverse viewpoint,
to be educated about what the Democraps stand for, but
all I've heard to date is, "George Bush and his administration
suck, 'n stuff."


Yeah, I think there's a market for Democrat radio if it's done well. But
there must be reason to enjoy being a Democrat, beside hating Republicans.


The interview with the fellow who wrote "Perfectly Legal"
was the sole worthwhile effort to date.


Too bad. I missed it.


73,

Steve Lawrence
KA0PMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

Frank Dresser


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Old April 15th 04, 02:13 AM
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Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
:

Air America has some sort of advertising beef with the LA
station.


Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those
two months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from
someone but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it
to someone else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they
notified Liu that they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their
contract and stopped payment on one check for the LA station per their
contract. Liu, in violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA
and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.




--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 15th 04, 02:16 AM
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"Frank Dresser" wrote:

| The interview with the fellow who wrote "Perfectly Legal"
| was the sole worthwhile effort to date.
|
| Too bad. I missed it.

It was one of the most infuriating interviews I've heard in my life.
At any rate, I'm reserving the book at the public library in Burnsville.
I'd highly suggest it - the book sounds like a great read!

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MinneSNOWta


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Old April 15th 04, 02:44 AM
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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
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Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those

two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone

else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu

that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.


OK, I don't have any first hand knowledge of the facts. Let's say Liu is a
sleazeball. Why stop his check? Take him to arbitration. Take him to
court. Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.

Frank Dresser


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Old April 15th 04, 02:52 AM
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Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
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Take him to court.


That's happening now.

Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.


That will doubtless happen after the TRO has been issued.

And if Liu appeals the TRO, AA will be back on the air AND will be getting
huge press as a result of the suit.

In addition, AA, added six new affiliates today.


--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
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Old April 15th 04, 03:02 AM
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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...

Take him to court.


That's happening now.

Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.


That will doubtless happen after the TRO has been issued.

And if Liu appeals the TRO, AA will be back on the air AND will be getting
huge press as a result of the suit.


If Liu is an expirenced sleazeball, he has a better idea of what he can get
out of the courts than I do, maybe more than you do.

Air America is already getting press on this issue. They look incompetent.


In addition, AA, added six new affiliates today.



Let's hope they avoid the broadcast sleazeballs, this time.

Frank Dresser


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Old April 15th 04, 03:12 AM
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Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:


"Frank Dresser" wrote:

| The interview with the fellow who wrote "Perfectly Legal"
| was the sole worthwhile effort to date.
|
| Too bad. I missed it.

It was one of the most infuriating interviews I've heard in my life.
At any rate, I'm reserving the book at the public library in Burnsville.
I'd highly suggest it - the book sounds like a great read!


I bought it and read it. I'd say go ahead and spend $26-the book is well
worth it. If I had enough money, I'd hire Jonathon Blattmachr to do my
taxes!

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Old April 15th 04, 03:18 AM
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Frank Dresser wrote:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
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Not an advertising beef. They leased the two months prior to their debut,
and allowed Arthur Liu to run filler during those two months.

Liu, in violation of their contract, leased the LA station during those

two
months to someone else. It's as if you rented an apartment from someone

else
but couldn't move in for two months, so the landlord rents it to someone
else. When Air America discovered this (two days ago) they notified Liu

that
they wanted to arbitrate this violation per their contract and stopped
payment on one check for the LA station per their contract. Liu, in
violation of BOTH contracts, cut them off in both LA and Chicago.

I'm reading that Liu has a long history as a sleazier-than-usual station
owner.


OK, I don't have any first hand knowledge of the facts. Let's say Liu is a
sleazeball. Why stop his check? Take him to arbitration. Take him to
court. Stay on the air, and fix the problems off the air.


Like Dish Network, who abruptly and without warning yanked BOTH Viacom
(including local CBS affiliates) and Turner Broadcasting because they
wouldn't roll over and agree to EchoStar's terms without protesting? It
seems that pulling the plug when the tenant complains is getting common
in broadcasting nowadays.

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