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MnMikew April 15th 04 08:22 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "Mark S. Holden" in :
According to Air America, Arthur Liu (the radio station owner) is a lying

sleazebag.

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=7&id=4851

Takes a moron to believe a moron.
..



Tom Betz April 15th 04 09:28 PM

"Frank Dresser" wrote in
:

I'm not sure how this follows. Media consolidation is in full swing.
The FCC now has loose rules about multiple station ownership. Air
America can't buy the stations they planned on buying.


Because the Clear Channels and Viacoms of this world now own so many
stations in major markets, the markets are locked up. The current rules
allow them to own some money-losers in the same markets as big money-
makers, just to maintain a lock on the market -- the big money-makers
subsidize the money-losers.

In the past, such money-losers would be more likely candidates for sale to
an upstart like Air America.

In the current climate, it will take them longer to start buying.

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Tom Betz April 15th 04 09:29 PM

"MnMikew" wrote in
:

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "Mark S. Holden" in
:
According to Air America, Arthur Liu (the radio station owner) is a
lying

sleazebag.

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=7&id=4851

Takes a moron to believe a moron.


Way to raise the level of discourse.

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N8KDV April 15th 04 09:35 PM



Tom Betz wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in
:

I'm not sure how this follows. Media consolidation is in full swing.
The FCC now has loose rules about multiple station ownership. Air
America can't buy the stations they planned on buying.


Because the Clear Channels and Viacoms of this world now own so many
stations in major markets, the markets are locked up. The current rules
allow them to own some money-losers in the same markets as big money-
makers, just to maintain a lock on the market -- the big money-makers
subsidize the money-losers.

In the past, such money-losers would be more likely candidates for sale to
an upstart like Air America.

In the current climate, it will take them longer to start buying.


I rather doubt they'll buy any stations at all...





N8KDV April 15th 04 09:40 PM



Tom Betz wrote:

"MnMikew" wrote in
:

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "Mark S. Holden" in
:
According to Air America, Arthur Liu (the radio station owner) is a
lying
sleazebag.

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=7&id=4851

Takes a moron to believe a moron.


Way to raise the level of discourse.


All he did was state the obvious.



Mike Terry April 15th 04 10:34 PM

Is Air America available on shortwave for us to listen to in the UK please?

Thanks

Mike



Frank Dresser April 16th 04 12:13 AM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
"Frank Dresser" wrote in
:

I'm not sure how this follows. Media consolidation is in full swing.
The FCC now has loose rules about multiple station ownership. Air
America can't buy the stations they planned on buying.


Because the Clear Channels and Viacoms of this world now own so many
stations in major markets, the markets are locked up. The current rules
allow them to own some money-losers in the same markets as big money-
makers, just to maintain a lock on the market -- the big money-makers
subsidize the money-losers.

In the past, such money-losers would be more likely candidates for sale to
an upstart like Air America.

In the current climate, it will take them longer to start buying.



The big networks haven't taken over the AM band in Chicago. The 50kw clear
channel stations have always been in the networks, with the exception of
WGN. The only big daytime signal the networks have picked up is AM 1000
WMVP. There are some network smaller stations, but they hardly overwhelm
the market, maybe because the market is already overwhelmed by the big
Chcago signals. WNTD is listenable around most of Chicago, but several
other city and suburban stations are about as good, and aren't in major
networks, either.

Here's the Illinois list, maybe about a third are listenable in Chicago.

http://tinyurl.com/3xa2q

Anyway, I'm sure none of those choices are perfect, and given the short time
frame they were operating with, WNTD may have just about the only choice. I
don't know. Chicago is filled with independant time brokered stations, but
I suppose most of them have long term commitments or loyal customers in much
of the time slots needed in Air America's broadcast day. Still, I heard one
of the brokered stations soliciting programs just a few days ago.

Frank Dresser





Frank Dresser April 16th 04 12:30 AM


"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Is Air America available on shortwave for us to listen to in the UK

please?

I don't think so. It's not very good. You're not missing much.


Thanks

Mike



Hey Mike,

Let's say there were a group called rec.publishing.newspaper. The group is
isn't quite named correctly, as the group's charter clearly says the group
is for hobbyists interested in all aspects of publishing.

Would the stories printed in the newspaper be off topic in
rec.publishing.newspaper?

Frank Dresser



Tom Betz April 16th 04 12:58 AM

Quoth "Frank Dresser" in
:

Now, they've pulled a bonehead move, and are off the air in thier #2 and #3
markets.


Uh, they are back on in Chicago as of tomorrow.

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=7&id=4859

They'll be back in court to deal with the L.A. issues next week.

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men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Tom Betz April 16th 04 01:02 AM

Quoth "Mike Terry" in
:

Is Air America available on shortwave for us to listen to in the UK please?


Unfortunately, no.

You can catch it on the web.

URL:http://play.rbn.com/?url=airam/airam/live/live.rm

You can also find a "pirate" Ogg Vorbis feed at
URL:http://bigelow-springs.net/airamerica/.

Archives there, too.


--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.


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