"uncle arnie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 May 2004 11:11 pm -0600 UTC, coustanis

posted: %MM


"gil" wrote in message
k.net...
I just love the anything/everything goes attitude!

We should not have a drivers license either as long as we dont get into
accidents...right?
No licenses for guns or rifles, no licenses for flying a
plane...heck...License schicense

Grow up!

You should grow up and realise that:
1) There is a big difference between operating a motor vehicle and
talking
on the radio.
2) There is no license required for gun ownership in the US.

8 times the per capita murder rate than Canada: most are with guns. 20
times the murder rate of European countries.


That's true (although Europe is catching up) however, that wasn't the topic
of conversation.

8 times the per capita murder rate than Canada: most are with guns. 20
times the murder rate of European countri

that isn't correct from a lot of the stuff I read.

those figures are counted from the U.S. having more people killed by that than
Canada or Europe.

But what those statistics left out is percentage wise, the U.S. has less
murders than Canada or Europe.

Canada has a smaller population than the U.S.

If both counteies murder rates were completely equal with 20 percent of
Canada's people murdering and 20 percent of the U.S. people murdering, those
statistics purposely make it sound like the U.S. has a higher percentage of
people murdering by purposely leaving out any mention of the percentages and
simply saying that a higher number of people in the U.S. commit murders than
the number of people in Canada that commits murders.

The facts in the U.S. show that the cities where guns are allowed have almost
no crime at all, and the cities that prohibit guns or severely restrict guns
have the most crime of all. And these weren't just some organizations
claims, but government statistics show it is so, also.

That's true (although Europe is catching up) however, that wasn't the topic
of conversatio

of course Europe is catching up by having more murderers. They outlawed guns.

In the U.S., government statistics already show that the cities and states
where guns by the citizens are the most prohibited happen to have the highest
crime rates in the U.S. and the cities where guns by the citizens are the most
allowed happen to have the lowest crime rates in the U.S.

You know you just might be a redneck if you think that "gun control" means
using both hands.

"Mediaguy500" wrote in message
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8 times the per capita murder rate than Canada: most are with guns. 20
times the murder rate of European countri

that isn't correct from a lot of the stuff I read.

those figures are counted from the U.S. having more people killed by that
than
Canada or Europe.

But what those statistics left out is percentage wise, the U.S. has less
murders than Canada or Europe.

Canada has a smaller population than the U.S.

If both counteies murder rates were completely equal with 20 percent of
Canada's people murdering and 20 percent of the U.S. people murdering,
those
statistics purposely make it sound like the U.S. has a higher percentage
of
people murdering by purposely leaving out any mention of the percentages
and
simply saying that a higher number of people in the U.S. commit murders
than
the number of people in Canada that commits murders.

The facts in the U.S. show that the cities where guns are allowed have
almost
no crime at all, and the cities that prohibit guns or severely restrict
guns
have the most crime of all. And these weren't just some organizations
claims, but government statistics show it is so, also.



"Per Capita" means per person or group of people. It applies the same
mathematically whether the group is 1 or 1,000,000. It is a ratio of murders
to the given population. In other words, if there is one murder per 10,000
people in one country, and one murder per 100,000 people in another country,
then the second country's per capita murder rate is 10x higher.

In article ,
(Mediaguy500) wrote:

8 times the per capita murder rate than Canada: most are with guns.
20 times the murder rate of European countri

that isn't correct from a lot of the stuff I read.

those figures are counted from the U.S. having more people killed by
that than Canada or Europe.

But what those statistics left out is percentage wise, the U.S. has
less murders than Canada or Europe.

Canada has a smaller population than the U.S.

If both counteies murder rates were completely equal with 20 percent
of Canada's people murdering and 20 percent of the U.S. people
murdering, those statistics purposely make it sound like the U.S. has
a higher percentage of people murdering by purposely leaving out any
mention of the percentages and simply saying that a higher number of
people in the U.S. commit murders than the number of people in Canada
that commits murders.

The facts in the U.S. show that the cities where guns are allowed
have almost no crime at all, and the cities that prohibit guns or
severely restrict guns have the most crime of all. And these
weren't just some organizations claims, but government statistics
show it is so, also.

It's not rocket science that an armed population is less crime friendly
than one that has it's rights curtailed.

All you have to do is ask yourself if I was a criminal and wanted to
commit a violent crime which town would I want to ply my trade. 1. A
town where most people were armed. 2. A town where gun rights were
restricted and most were not armed.

Only a gun grabber or Michael Bryant would have trouble answering such a
complex question.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"DeWayne" wrote in message ...
"Lloyd Davies - The Time Lord " wrote in message


After about 18 years of listening and talking on the ham bands I don't think
knowing CW has ANYTHING to do with the quality of any operator.

Well, of course. Why would it? The CW test is used to test CW skill.
Nothing more, nothing less. :/ MK

Mark Keith wrote:

After about 18 years of listening and talking on the ham bands I don't think
knowing CW has ANYTHING to do with the quality of any operator.


Well, of course. Why would it? The CW test is used to test CW skill.
Nothing more, nothing less. :/ MK

I would think it keeps the riff raff out. You have to be a bit more
dedicated to get that ticket.



mike