Let's debate: Should Amateur Radio be made a free for all?
 

I think that since Morse Code is old, but not completely useless, I feel it
should no longer be made to be learned to gain access to the HF bands.

Do I feel that Amateur Radio be made a free for all? No, it should not. There
should be a test, but not a really hard test, but not a easy one either.

I'll even admit, I'll never get a new Icom 7800, at $10,000.00 - I'll be lucky
to maybe get a used 706 at about 400 or 500 or so.


Lloyd Davies - Time Lord and Talk show host
"On the Domestic Front"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/domesticfront/

Lloyd Davies - wrote:

I think that since Morse Code is old, but not completely useless, I feel it
should no longer be made to be learned to gain access to the HF bands.

The work required to get that ham ticket is the only thing keeping it
from turning into a repeat of the Citizens Band fiasco. There would be a
huge increase in the number of retards on the airways.

Keep the requirements where they are. New recruits are needed, but that
is another problem entirely. A good start would be informing young
people in junior high about the hobby. Communicating with cubs/brownies
Girl Guide and Scout troops would help too. There must be many more
sources of recruits.

I have a feeling the kids aren't being reached and there aren't enough
coming in to replace all the geezers who are croaking.



mike

Behold, m II signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Lloyd Davies - wrote:

I think that since Morse Code is old, but not completely useless, I
feel it should no longer be made to be learned to gain access to the HF
bands.

The work required to get that ham ticket is the only thing keeping it
from turning into a repeat of the Citizens Band fiasco. There would be a
huge increase in the number of retards on the airways.

Restrict them to 80 or send them to 2, with the rest of the fruit salads ;-)

Keep the requirements where they are. New recruits are needed, but that
is another problem entirely. A good start would be informing young
people in junior high about the hobby. Communicating with cubs/brownies
Girl Guide and Scout troops would help too. There must be many more
sources of recruits.

Good plan!

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

On Thu, 06 May 2004 04:17:29 GMT, m II
wrote:

Lloyd Davies - wrote:

I think that since Morse Code is old, but not completely useless, I feel it
should no longer be made to be learned to gain access to the HF bands.

The work required to get that ham ticket is the only thing keeping it
from turning into a repeat of the Citizens Band fiasco. There would be a
huge increase in the number of retards on the airways.

Keep the requirements where they are. New recruits are needed, but that
is another problem entirely. A good start would be informing young
people in junior high about the hobby. Communicating with cubs/brownies
Girl Guide and Scout troops would help too. There must be many more
sources of recruits.

I have a feeling the kids aren't being reached and there aren't enough
coming in to replace all the geezers who are croaking.



mike


WOW! I amaze myself! I agree 100% with you.

Tracy

From: m II

The work required to get that ham ticket is the only thing keeping it
from turning into a repeat of the Citizens Band fiasco. There would be a
huge increase in the number of retards on the airways.


They are already there! The code requiirements don't seem to have done much to
keep some very big "retards" from joining the ranks of amateur radio. Haven't
you ever listened to 80 or 20 meters?

The "geezers" aren't croaking fast enough!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

From: Tracy Fort

WOW! I amaze myself! I agree 100% with you.

Mike, the fact that someone like Fort would agree with you should be an
independent reason for you to re-think your advocacy!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

"Lloyd Davies - The Time Lord " wrote in message
...
I think that since Morse Code is old, but not completely useless, I feel
it
should no longer be made to be learned to gain access to the HF bands.

Do I feel that Amateur Radio be made a free for all? No, it should not.
There
should be a test, but not a really hard test, but not a easy one either.

I'll even admit, I'll never get a new Icom 7800, at $10,000.00 - I'll be
lucky
to maybe get a used 706 at about 400 or 500 or so.

After about 18 years of listening and talking on the ham bands I don't think
knowing CW has ANYTHING to do with the quality of any operator. Many of the
QRMers and trouble makers in ham radio are Extra Class ops. I easily passed
the 20 WPM code test and really don't see the point. Yes, there should be
written exams.

DeWayne K9KZ



Lloyd Davies - Time Lord and Talk show host
"On the Domestic Front"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/domesticfront/

Michael 'I'm a retard and I lied about getting a PhD' Bryant wrote:

From: m II

The work required to get that ham ticket is the only thing keeping it
from turning into a repeat of the Citizens Band fiasco. There would be a
huge increase in the number of retards on the airways.


They are already there! The code requiirements don't seem to have done much to
keep some very big "retards" from joining the ranks of amateur radio. Haven't
you ever listened to 80 or 20 meters?

The "geezers" aren't croaking fast enough!

Are you advocating the more rapid demise of amateur radio operators Fat Boy?

Sure sounds like it too me!

From: N8KDV

Are you advocating the more rapid demise of amateur radio operators Fat Boy?

Of some. Some of those on 80 and 20 meters need to move on....


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV

Are you advocating the more rapid demise of amateur radio operators Fat Boy?

Of some. Some of those on 80 and 20 meters need to move on....

As do so called educators who lie about PhD's!