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Bush Sees the US as a White Nation
Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not
sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Michael Bryant wrote:
Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. Best, -Al |
From: Al Arduengo
I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. though i see what you're saying, Al, I am troubled by having a President who is quick to define the US as a "white nation." And the President's sentiments seem to be divergent with many posters in this newsgroup who suggest that Muslims, in general, are a group of people that cannot co-exist with the rest of the world. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Michael 'I'm pretty whacked this morning' Bryant wrote: From: Al Arduengo I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. though i see what you're saying, Al, I am troubled by having a President who is quick to define the US as a "white nation." Where and when did he do that Fat Boy? |
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Michael 'I lied so much, now I'm blind!' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Learn to read Fat Boy... he didn't state or define the USA as a 'White Nation' at all! Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie; "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve? Where does he say White Nation oh eyesight challenged one? |
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Michael 'I'm blind, I'm stupid, I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie; "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve? Where does he say White Nation oh eyesight challenged one? try again, Steve! Can't back up your fabrication can you Fat Boy? |
From: N8KDV
Michael 'I'm blind, I'm stupid, I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie; "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve? Where does he say White Nation oh eyesight challenged one? try again, Steve! Can't back up your fabrication can you Fat Boy? Read, Mr. comprehension-challenged. Ours = white. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Michael 'I sure got a problem' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Michael 'I'm blind, I'm stupid, I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie; "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve? Where does he say White Nation oh eyesight challenged one? try again, Steve! Can't back up your fabrication can you Fat Boy? Read, Mr. comprehension-challenged. Ours = white. Still can't back up your fabrication can you? You're still making things up. |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. IMO, it's beyond subtle. The characterization in you header goes past what was actually said. That's apparent from the face of the remarks. I guess you're entitled to spin it the way you have, but the fact that you need to deviate from the actual words themselves to read something into the remark indicates that saying that the racism is "not subtle" is a big stretch. |
Michael Bryant wrote:
Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. I suppose it depends what you're looking for. It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd think you'd agree with him. What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of governing themselves are wrong." |
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Michael 'I'm just plain fat assed and stupid' Bryant wrote: From: "Mark S. Holden" It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd think you'd agree with him. What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of governing themselves are wrong." And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG. I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he characterizes the US as a white nation. But that is not what he said is it Fat Boy? That's just another fabrication on your part is it not? |
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Michael 'damn am I screwed up today or what?' Bryant wrote: As our oyur lying and ignoringthe-obvious skills. Nice sentence Fat Boy! |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he characterizes the US as a white nation. And you are still illiterate! |
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Michael 'I'm wasting my daylight driving while blind time sitting here flapping my fat jaws' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Is that how you fix your mistakes when responding to me? Your responses are truly unique, Steve. no one else is that persistently idiotic. No one persistently fabricates like you do Fat Boy, what can I say? |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: N8KDV But that is not what he said is it Fat Boy? That's just another fabrication on your part is it not? Your reading and comprehension skills are well-known. As our oyur lying and ignoringthe-obvious skills. When it comes to stupidity skills you're an Olympian! Do you have ANY idea how stupid you look? |
"N8KDV" wrote in message ... Michael 'I wouldn't know what a PhD was if I saw it' Bryant wrote: From: "MnMikew" And you are still illiterate! I see you got the spelling right. Did you just cut and paste from my last response to you? Is that how you fix your mistakes when responding to me? I doubt Bryant even knows how to do it. |
Michael Bryant wrote:
Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." What does this mean? Yet another Bushism, or is it REALLY what he thinks? =========================================== I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." =========================================== The sentence is the equivalent of a double negative. It means WHITE can self govern! What he SHOULD have said, if he were SANE, was: =========================================== I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily white can self-govern." =========================================== and this guy has his finger on the button..You'd think Cheney, Perle and Wolfowitz could have picked a better puppet. mike |
On Thu, 06 May 2004 18:36:44 GMT, m II
wrote: Michael Bryant wrote: Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." What does this mean? Yet another Bushism, or is it REALLY what he thinks? =========================================== I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." =========================================== The sentence is the equivalent of a double negative. It means WHITE can self govern! What he SHOULD have said, if he were SANE, was: =========================================== I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily white can self-govern." =========================================== and this guy has his finger on the button..You'd think Cheney, Perle and Wolfowitz could have picked a better puppet. mike It's probably another Bryant misquote... Tracy |
MWB - The Mighty White Brother claims that President Bush said
"White Nation". But in-fact MWB presents the Liberal LIES and Democrat DISTIRTION for all to read one more time. The President George "W" Bush 'never' used the words "White Nation". However, "MWB" Did Use Those Words Exact Words "WHITE NATION" in this Post; in in his continued effort to Promote Racial Hatred in the USofA. MWB - The Mighty White Brother You are Caught In Another LIE [.] .. .. = = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message = = = ... From: Al Arduengo I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. though i see what you're saying, Al, I am troubled by having a President who is quick to define the US as a "white nation." And the President's sentiments seem to be divergent with many posters in this newsgroup who suggest that Muslims, in general, are a group of people that cannot co-exist with the rest of the world. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Al Arduengo wrote:
Michael Bryant wrote: Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. Best, -Al Don't waste you time attempting to reason with MB, you can't reason with an unreasonable person. |
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: N8KDV I am troubled by having a President who is quick to define the US as a "white nation." Where and when did he do that Fat Boy? See the original post in the thread. Rose Garden, last Friday. Qoute in the original post. Learn to read, Steve! MWB - Learn to Tell the Truth Yourself - Once Again You Repeat the LIE ! MWB - The Mighty White Brother claims that President Bush said "White Nation". But in-fact MWB presents the Liberal LIES and Democrat DISTIRTION for all to read one more time. The President George "W" Bush 'never' used the words "White Nation". However, "MWB" Did Use Those Words Exact Words "WHITE NATION" in this Post; in in his continued effort to Promote Racial Hatred in the USofA. MWB - The Mighty White Brother You are Caught In Another LIE [.] The Truth Will Set You Free ~ RHF .. .. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
= = = "T. Early" wrote in message
= = = ... "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden. I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play: "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world. IMO, it's beyond subtle. The characterization in you header goes past what was actually said. That's apparent from the face of the remarks. I guess you're entitled to spin it the way you have, but the fact that you need to deviate from the actual words themselves to read something into the remark indicates that saying that the racism is "not subtle" is a big stretch. TE, "The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the President sees the world." The Problem is NOT what the President Said or what was Written. The Problem is NOT how the President See the World. As "MWB" so correctly says "In my mind" [ That Being MWB's "Mind" ] There in lies the root of the Problem MWB's Mind MWB's Own Personal Bias and Self-Hatred. "MWB" Did Use Those Words Exact Words "WHITE NATION" in his subsequent Posts. TBL: This is all part of MWB's continued effort to Promote Racial Hatred in the USofA and Blame it all on Republicans and Conservatives. ibtm ~ RHF .. |
Michael 'I cain't see' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Learn to read Fat Boy... he didn't state or define the USA as a 'White Nation' at all! Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie; "There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can self-govern." Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve? I can read probably better than you Fat Boy... it was YOU who stated that you were almost totally blind. |
MB--Why do you support these Islamic *******s? You've been reading the
wrong books. As a professor you need to do more research. You should study the Koran. You know nothing about Islam. You are a fool. You are on the wrong side. A trip to falugee would do you good. "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: Al Arduengo I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However, the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY) we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a question in my opinion. though i see what you're saying, Al, I am troubled by having a President who is quick to define the US as a "white nation." And the President's sentiments seem to be divergent with many posters in this newsgroup who suggest that Muslims, in general, are a group of people that cannot co-exist with the rest of the world. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
mrhangster wrote: MB--Why do you support these Islamic *******s? You've been reading the wrong books. As a professor you need to do more research. You should study the Koran. You know nothing about Islam. You are a fool. You are on the wrong side. A trip to falugee would do you good. You must understand that Bryant is mentally ill. But that's no reason not to send the retard to falugee anyway! |
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: N8KDV Learn to read Fat Boy... he didn't state or define the USA as a 'White Nation' at all! Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a majority white nation. MWB - First of all Bush said what he said. However, MWB your re-writing of what he said says a lot about You "MWB". MWB - According to the Last US Census of 2000. The USofA's Primary Population Group (a majority of 62.6% or More) is classified as being . . . Guess What ? ? ? MWB - Yes those nasty Words "White" Total Population (All Races) SOURCE= http://tinyurl.com/39p62 Count = 281,421,906 = 100.0% White Alone or in Combination with 'other' Races Count = 216,930,975 = 77.1% White Alone Count = 211,460,626 = 75.1% White in Combination with 'other' Races Count = 5,470,349 = 1.9% NOT White Alone or in Combination with 'other' Races Count = 64,490,931 = 22.9% Hispanic or Latino (of any race) SOURCE= http://tinyurl.com/3f7nt Count = 35,305,818 = 12.5% SubSet of Hispanics 'claiming Two or More Races Count = 6,826,228 = 2.4% MWB - So in "Your" Racist America the average, plain and simple 'white folks' make up 62.6% which is about "5-out-of-8" members of the Total Population of the USofA. NOTE: Thankfully the Vast Majority of these average 'white folks' are NOT Hateful Racist like Yourself. Who Continuely Promote Race Based Hate between the Races. One Wonders Why ? TBL: So is it reasonable to say that the US is a 'majority white nation'. MWB - The Oh So "Mighty White Brother" - Just the Facts ~ RHF .. .. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) .. |
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: "Mark S. Holden" It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd think you'd agree with him. What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of governing themselves are wrong." And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG. I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he characterizes the US as a white nation. MWB - We need NOT read President Bush's Mind; when we have you very words that proclaim "the US as a white nation." The "White Nation" Mental Defect is Yours MWB - Not President Bush's. MWB - It is Your Sick Mind that is 'inserting' the "Racism" into the simple remarks made by President Bush. Everyone has read your Words and 'now' Clearly Knows You for the Twisted Racist that You are MWB. MWB - You can not Excape Your Own Words. MWB - The Truth is there for Everyone to See - Plain and Simple. MWB - You Stand Convicted by Your Own Words as a Promoter of Race Hatred here in this NewsGroup [.] MWB - The Truth Will Set You Free ~ RHF .. .. And you know that there are all kinds of folks in this NG biting their tongues to keep from saying, "Yes, it is!" Have a good day, Mark! Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) .. |
RHF wrote: = = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message = = = ... From: "Mark S. Holden" It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd think you'd agree with him. What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of governing themselves are wrong." And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG. I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he characterizes the US as a white nation. MWB - We need NOT read President Bush's Mind; when we have you very words that proclaim "the US as a white nation." The "White Nation" Mental Defect is Yours MWB - Not President Bush's. MWB - It is Your Sick Mind that is 'inserting' the "Racism" into the simple remarks made by President Bush. Everyone has read your Words and 'now' Clearly Knows You for the Twisted Racist that You are MWB. MWB - You can not Excape Your Own Words. MWB - The Truth is there for Everyone to See - Plain and Simple. MWB - You Stand Convicted by Your Own Words as a Promoter of Race Hatred here in this NewsGroup [.] MWB - The Truth Will Set You Free ~ RHF But will MWB ever free up the truth? |
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