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MnMikew May 11th 04 10:11 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
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From: "MnMikew"


In short, you're not going to answer my question but are going to
defer the answer by striking back with your own less precisely-defined
notion of a neo-conservative.

SOP for Bryant. When confronted with a question he can't or dosen't want

to
answer, he iqnores you.


You need to read. I think I've done a fairly good job of defining neo-cons

over
the past 12 hours. Far more effort than you've put into defining what's

meant
by the phrase "liberal."


That's your opinion. I'm still waiting for some proof that anyone in the
Administration attacked Kerry on his Vietnam service.



T. Early May 11th 04 10:44 PM


"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "MnMikew"


In short, you're not going to answer my question but are going

to
defer the answer by striking back with your own less

precisely-defined
notion of a neo-conservative.

SOP for Bryant. When confronted with a question he can't or

dosen't want
to
answer, he iqnores you.


You need to read. I think I've done a fairly good job of defining

neo-cons
over
the past 12 hours. Far more effort than you've put into defining

what's
meant
by the phrase "liberal."


That's your opinion. I'm still waiting for some proof that anyone in

the
Administration attacked Kerry on his Vietnam service.

Hey me too. That whopper goes back awhile!



RHF May 11th 04 11:55 PM

BDK,

"I think you've been sniffing too much tuner cleaner,
kind of like Steve sometimes..."

Don't it just Blow Your Mind - The Truth That Is !

From My Mind to Your Mind - They are 'becoming' One :o)

~ RHF
..
..
= = = BDK wrote in message
= = = ...
In article , rhf-say-
says...
TE,

NeoCon 101 - Some Basic Questions Answered.

? What Do Neo-Conservatives Believe ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html

? The NeuCons "Key Figures" {The Founders - Who Are They ?}
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html

? How Much Power do the Neo-Conservatives have within
the Bush Administration and within Washington DC ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/boot.html
- by Max Boot

? Which Leaders in US History would be NeoCons Today ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/mead.html
- by Walter Russell Mead

TE - But the way that "MWB" uses the tern 'neucon' is part of
the new "Ultra-Liberal-Democrat Speak" and the Liberal Media Elite
when the majority of Jewish-Americans and Jewish Intellectuals
were Democrat Party Members and Democrat Voters.
There was a time when Jews-Americans were 'good little democrats'
and could be "Counted On" to Vote Democrat. But now come along
the NeuCons the founding majority of whom were Jewish-American
Intellectuals who identified with the Republican Party.
To the Democrats (The Democrat Party Leaders) and the Media Elite
these NeuCons are simply NOT the 'right type' of Jewish-Americans.

MWB - Basically functions as a Political Cadre of the Democrat
Party here on this NewsGroup. Thus 'he' uses the term "NeuCon"
and "NeuCons" as a Democrat Code Words for 'Those People'.
{Yes - There is a "Hateful" 'hidden' Meaning Implied using the Words.}
[ One more form of Democrat Class Warfare - The Politics of Hate. ]

The Liberal Media Elite also use these same "Code Words" to
Indoctrinate the American Public as to the Threat that the NeuCons
are to 'all' that is Truly "Democratic" in American.

This is the basic logic of the Democrats the Liberal Media when
it comes to Collin Powell as an African-American Leader of
National Stature. Liberal Democrats and Media Elite can not
stand have a Strong Powerful Respected Black Man in President
Bush's Cabinet.

More of the 'quite' Racism of the Democrats and the Media Elite
because Colin Powell is not the right kind of African-American.
[ One more form of Democrat Class Warfare - The Politics of Hate. ]


So Say I - My Opinions Stated as Facts ~ RHF
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= = = "T. Early" wrote in message
= = = ...
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...

How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a
moral base for torture are ignoring the words of your own
leader? Aren't you listening to your own leader?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040511/D82G3FK00.html


You toss the word "neocon" about like a frisbee.
Would you mind saying what/who you think it refers to?
I'm always wondering who's in that box and who isn't
as far as you're concerned.
For most conservatives, it has a very definite meaning.

.



I think you've been sniffing too much tuner cleaner, kind of like Steve
sometimes...

BDK


LW May 12th 04 12:57 AM

ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ...
unrestrained spending, to increase their political hold on the
country.


We've a chord of truth here. Unrestrained spending to increase a
political hold on the country.

Hmmm .. I'm thinking Lyndon Johnson and his "Great Society / War on
Poverty" programs. He *promised* we'd get a lot of bang for the
bucks, remember?

Three trillion dollars and counting.

The society has not become great and poverty is still alive and well.

My neighbor is voting for Kerry because he's pro-abortion. That's
about all she can tell you about him.

Is this a great country or what.

T. Early May 12th 04 04:45 AM


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"LW" wrote in message
m...
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ...

How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a moral

base for
torture are ignoring the words of your own leader?


All neocons? Painting with a rather wide brush here, yes?

What *exactly* is a "neocon"?


From Ask Jeeves:

Neoconservative - A "neocon" is more inclined than other

conservatives
toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of

traditional
morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong

foreign
policy of America as well.


This is OK, but any definition that makes the "strong foreign policy"
aspects of neo-conservatism an afterthought is less than adequate. It
is the dissatisfaction with the left's appeasement of the Soviet Union
that was at the core of the origins of the neoconservative movement.
Since the -true- neoconservative is a former liberal (something I
haven't been able to get through Mr. Bryant's head), the part about
"vigorous government" is pretty close since many neocons are closer to
liberals on domestic policy.



Telamon May 12th 04 05:55 AM

In article s.com,
"Clorox for the NG" wrote:


The war is lost. ------------ (deal with it, it's the truth you know)


You can surrender to Al Queda and have your head chopped off.

I'll keep supporting the fight for freedom.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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