The "Frankenstein" roof wire that I have

is not a very good
MW antenna.

I can imagine. The signals are coming from everywhere and can't be seperated,
you need to be able to turn your antenna to the side/back/up/down/around to
null out stronger stations to hear weaker stations and a good tuning capacitor
to cover the BCB.

Then before you even move your loop, you can tune the Variable Cap to peak the
station and then if needed, moved the loop slowly to the left or right to get
rid of any unwantd signal. Nothing like it, nothing like dxing the BCB with a
nice size loop that you are controlling right in front of you and then hearing
the difference as you're doing it. :-)

~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~

http://users.netonecom.net/~swordman...srIIIAlign.htm
This page has alignment notes, which appear to have come from the
manufacturer. In addition, there is also a sketch of all of the alignment
points.

Pete

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Jay Heyl" wrote:
| What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
| directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
| and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
| Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

Roger that. I've heard three stations on the same graveyard
channel with my "Stupor Radio Three," as I like to call it.
It's quite a good little radio. I want to build a marker generator
for this thing. I wish I could make the dial alignment a little
better - I've realigned it twice, but guess I'll have another go,
one of these days.

The SRIII also happens to be a very decent camp radio.
I'm planning on a trip to the Boundary Waters, with a nice
FM yagi, maybe 8 elements or so, to see if I can hear a little
more Canadian FM than I'm used to.

I've heard that all Canadians talk like "Ike" from South Park,
and I want to see if that's true.

Plus, I like Tim Horton's, now that they're owned by an American
company (putatively, at least). So, I'm hoping to hear a Tim Horton's
commercial.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

(NOTE: My email address has only one "dot."
You'll have to edit out the one between the "7"
and the "3" in my email address if you wish to
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"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:02:26 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article ) :

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that
is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead.

I'm pretty much in a Faraday cage and my only "window" to the
radio world is a 4'x8' window to the South which doesn't open.

I have a CCradio+ a couple feet from me and the CCrane AM Antenna
up in the window (where the top and bottom come together and form
a little ledge).

The CCrane AM Antenna increases = EXTREMELY = the quantity and
quality of stations, both daytime and nighttime.

One of my friends has a CCradio and the AM Antenna in a wood
frame house and the AM Antenna barely helps with his CCradio but
has = DRASTIC = improvements when used with other AM radios he
has.

Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.


That would be what I'd do. I don't begrudge the money I spent on
the CCradioPlus at all; it was a nice addition and in my peculiar
case, the CCrane antenna is a big help but I might could build a
shelf up in the window and stand on a ladder to tune it and have
the same reception with just the CCradio (grin).



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradioPlus
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that it does not
"null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna.

-- Stinger

FO&A,

"Instead of the CCrane antenna,
I may decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead."

The CCRadio and the CCRadioPlus both have a 200mm (8") AM/MW
Ferrite Rod Antenna just like the GE Superadios.

~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Michael" wrote in message
= = = . net...
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Jay Heyl" wrote:
| What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
| directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
| and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
| Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

Roger that. I've heard three stations on the same graveyard
channel with my "Stupor Radio Three," as I like to call it.
It's quite a good little radio. I want to build a marker generator
for this thing. I wish I could make the dial alignment a little
better - I've realigned it twice, but guess I'll have another go,
one of these days.

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead. Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com

STINGER,

"I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that
it does not "null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna."

This is why I describe the CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Twin Coil
Ferrite Rod Antenna as a 'great' "Signal Magnet" for locations
with poor AM/MW Reception problems.

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Antenna by C. Crane Co. is a "Great Signal Magnet"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/615
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/631

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Antenna and Noise
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/586

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Loop Antenna = My Thoughts . . .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/510

iane ~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Stinger" wrote in message
= = = ...
"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:02:26 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article ) :

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that
is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead.

I'm pretty much in a Faraday cage and my only "window" to the
radio world is a 4'x8' window to the South which doesn't open.

I have a CCradio+ a couple feet from me and the CCrane AM Antenna
up in the window (where the top and bottom come together and form
a little ledge).

The CCrane AM Antenna increases = EXTREMELY = the quantity and
quality of stations, both daytime and nighttime.

One of my friends has a CCradio and the AM Antenna in a wood
frame house and the AM Antenna barely helps with his CCradio but
has = DRASTIC = improvements when used with other AM radios he
has.

Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.


That would be what I'd do. I don't begrudge the money I spent on
the CCradioPlus at all; it was a nice addition and in my peculiar
case, the CCrane antenna is a big help but I might could build a
shelf up in the window and stand on a ladder to tune it and have
the same reception with just the CCradio (grin).



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradioPlus
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that it does not
"null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna.

-- Stinger

In article , md1966
@optonline.net says...
No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead. Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.

IMO, the CCRadio+ is grossly overpriced. It's well built and has a lot
of nice features, but it's not remotely close to "the best AM radio",
and is not a particularly good value for the money. The biggest problem
is the single filter that's as wide as a barn door. If you want to hear
a weak distant station next to a strong local one, you can pretty much
forget it. It's also more susceptible than it should be to strong
signal overload. It does okay off the internal antenna, but hook up a
good external antenna and a strong local signal will blanket the dial.

Unless you need the TV/weather bands or have some other specific use for
one of the CCRadio special features, I'd recommend looking at the
Grundig S350. It's analog tuning with a digital display. It has two
filter widths to help in reducing interference from neighboring
stations. It sounds better than the CCRadio (though, the CCRadio can
play louder without distortion). It also brings SW to the party. And, if
you're willing to pull out all the stops, Kiwa has audio and filter
upgrades available.

-- Jay

"Joe Momma" wrote in message news:TcRrc.12497$JC5.1148196@attbi_s54...
"Michael" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any comments on this medium wave antenna ???

http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.asp

Was this once the Justice AM Antenna? If it was, why did its name change?

Hi Michael:I had the kiwa loop,K9AY,and the Justice MW twin ferrite
coil ant.Ok,the Kiwa have more gain and better nulls.Another good one
is the Quantum Pro.Some reviewers compare the quantum pro with the
kiwa [I never have tested the Quantum Pro]The K9AY is a Pro MW
outside loop and the best[in my oppinion].The justice have about 26 DB
gain and twin coil technology and is portable [use a 9 volt
battery].Its a very sensitive antenna.Better than my 36 inches loop
and in sensitivity, very near to the Kiwa but not have the oustandings
nulls capability of the kiwa. Ken

RHF,

Very true. It is a very impressive "signal magnet," and the footprint of it
on my nightstand is only about the size of a coffee cup, and mine stays
hooked up to my Super 909. With a CCRadio+, the 909, and a Sony SW07 on
that nightstand, I just don't have room for even a select-a-tenna.

By the way, I know you're a fan of the Grundig S-350. I've heard that the
ferrite antenna in it is either the exact same (or a VERY similar
reproduction) of the twin coil antenna in the Crane AM antenna. Of course,
it doesn't boost signals the same way (tunable antenna), but that does help
to explain the excellent MW sensitivity of that radio.

-- Stinger

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
STINGER,

"I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that
it does not "null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna."

This is why I describe the CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Twin Coil
Ferrite Rod Antenna as a 'great' "Signal Magnet" for locations
with poor AM/MW Reception problems.

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Antenna by C. Crane Co. is a "Great Signal Magnet"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/615
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/631

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Antenna and Noise
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/586

CCrane {Justice} AM/MW Loop Antenna = My Thoughts . . .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/510

iane ~ RHF
.
.
= = = "Stinger" wrote in message
= = = ...
"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:02:26 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article ) :

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, t
hat
is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I
may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead.

I'm pretty much in a Faraday cage and my only "window" to the
radio world is a 4'x8' window to the South which doesn't open.

I have a CCradio+ a couple feet from me and the CCrane AM Antenna
up in the window (where the top and bottom come together and form
a little ledge).

The CCrane AM Antenna increases = EXTREMELY = the quantity and
quality of stations, both daytime and nighttime.

One of my friends has a CCradio and the AM Antenna in a wood
frame house and the AM Antenna barely helps with his CCradio but
has = DRASTIC = improvements when used with other AM radios he
has.

Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting
another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.


That would be what I'd do. I don't begrudge the money I spent on
the CCradioPlus at all; it was a nice addition and in my peculiar
case, the CCrane antenna is a big help but I might could build a
shelf up in the window and stand on a ladder to tune it and have
the same reception with just the CCradio (grin).



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradioPlus
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that it does not
"null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna.

-- Stinger

IMO, the CCRadio+ is grossly overpriced. It's well built and has a lot
of nice features, but it's not remotely close to "the best AM radio",

I *KNOW* that for an absolute fact because I had the CCRadio and one of my GE
P-780s both on the same turntable with the same 30x30 loop and it was ike
taking a knife to a gunfight.

It wasn't even fair, take away the loop- and the difference was even bigger in
favor of that old GE radio.

They can keep the CCRadio, it cracks me up when I hear them say that on the
radio....lol....they should be sued for fraud IMO.


~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~