Hiya...

Can anyone offer any comments on this medium wave antenna ???

http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.asp

I'm thinking of picking one up for MW DX'ing. I'd be using it along with my
GE SR-III. I'd also take a crack at using it with the KA-1102 and PL-550.
The SR-III already has a substaitial ferrite bar in it, but, as anyone that
has used it knows, it is hightly directional and you have the spin the radio
about at times. I'm wondering if the C Crane antenna would solve that
problem and or enhance the DX'ing capabilities of the SR-III.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com

Michael, After visiting your website, I would have thought that any other
from the "monster" you have would be a compromise (except for a Beverage!)

Richard, Warsaw

"Michael" wrote in message
et...
Hiya...

Can anyone offer any comments on this medium wave antenna ???

http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.asp

I'm thinking of picking one up for MW DX'ing. I'd be using it along with
my
GE SR-III. I'd also take a crack at using it with the KA-1102 and PL-550.
The SR-III already has a substaitial ferrite bar in it, but, as anyone
that
has used it knows, it is hightly directional and you have the spin the
radio
about at times. I'm wondering if the C Crane antenna would solve that
problem and or enhance the DX'ing capabilities of the SR-III.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com

"Richard" wrote in message
...
Michael, After visiting your website, I would have thought that any other
from the "monster" you have would be a compromise (except for a Beverage!)

Richard, Warsaw


Hiya, Richard....

The "Frankenstein" roof wire that I have is very good as a shortwave DX'ing
antenna, especially for the 25 to 16 meter bands, but it is not a very good
MW antenna. It would seem that "Frankenstein" just isn't tuned for the
lower frequencies.

--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com

The "Frankenstein" roof wire that I have

is not a very good
MW antenna.

I can imagine. The signals are coming from everywhere and can't be seperated,
you need to be able to turn your antenna to the side/back/up/down/around to
null out stronger stations to hear weaker stations and a good tuning capacitor
to cover the BCB.

Then before you even move your loop, you can tune the Variable Cap to peak the
station and then if needed, moved the loop slowly to the left or right to get
rid of any unwantd signal. Nothing like it, nothing like dxing the BCB with a
nice size loop that you are controlling right in front of you and then hearing
the difference as you're doing it. :-)

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Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
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Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
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In article , md1966
@optonline.net says...
Hiya...

Can anyone offer any comments on this medium wave antenna ???

http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.asp

I'm thinking of picking one up for MW DX'ing. I'd be using it along with my
GE SR-III. I'd also take a crack at using it with the KA-1102 and PL-550.
The SR-III already has a substaitial ferrite bar in it, but, as anyone that
has used it knows, it is hightly directional and you have the spin the radio
about at times. I'm wondering if the C Crane antenna would solve that
problem and or enhance the DX'ing capabilities of the SR-III.

What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

As for the CCrane antenna, it contains two 8-inch ferrite antennas which
are just as directional as the antenna in the SR3. In my experience, it
does very little for the SR3. You might be able to set it at a
different angle than the SR3 and allow signals that would otherwise be
nulled out to get through to the SR3, though you're likely to just end
up with a jumbled mess of signals. You also have to tune the CCrane
antenna, so you'd just be trading rotating the radio for rotating a dial
on the control box (plus possibly having to rotate both the radio and
the CCrane antenna).

The CCrane antenna WILL make a big difference when used with the other
radios you mentioned. They have much smaller ferrite antennas and will
benefit greatly from the larger ferrite in the CCrane antenna.

-- Jay

"Jay Heyl" wrote:
| What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
| directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
| and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
| Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

Roger that. I've heard three stations on the same graveyard
channel with my "Stupor Radio Three," as I like to call it.
It's quite a good little radio. I want to build a marker generator
for this thing. I wish I could make the dial alignment a little
better - I've realigned it twice, but guess I'll have another go,
one of these days.

The SRIII also happens to be a very decent camp radio.
I'm planning on a trip to the Boundary Waters, with a nice
FM yagi, maybe 8 elements or so, to see if I can hear a little
more Canadian FM than I'm used to.

I've heard that all Canadians talk like "Ike" from South Park,
and I want to see if that's true.

Plus, I like Tim Horton's, now that they're owned by an American
company (putatively, at least). So, I'm hoping to hear a Tim Horton's
commercial.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

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"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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"Jay Heyl" wrote:
| What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
| directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
| and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
| Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

Roger that. I've heard three stations on the same graveyard
channel with my "Stupor Radio Three," as I like to call it.
It's quite a good little radio. I want to build a marker generator
for this thing. I wish I could make the dial alignment a little
better - I've realigned it twice, but guess I'll have another go,
one of these days.

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead. Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com

On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:02:26 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article ) :

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead.

I'm pretty much in a Faraday cage and my only "window" to the
radio world is a 4'x8' window to the South which doesn't open.

I have a CCradio+ a couple feet from me and the CCrane AM Antenna
up in the window (where the top and bottom come together and form
a little ledge).

The CCrane AM Antenna increases = EXTREMELY = the quantity and
quality of stations, both daytime and nighttime.

One of my friends has a CCradio and the AM Antenna in a wood
frame house and the AM Antenna barely helps with his CCradio but
has = DRASTIC = improvements when used with other AM radios he
has.

Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.


That would be what I'd do. I don't begrudge the money I spent on
the CCradioPlus at all; it was a nice addition and in my peculiar
case, the CCrane antenna is a big help but I might could build a
shelf up in the window and stand on a ladder to tune it and have
the same reception with just the CCradio (grin).



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradioPlus
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:02:26 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article ) :

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that
is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead.

I'm pretty much in a Faraday cage and my only "window" to the
radio world is a 4'x8' window to the South which doesn't open.

I have a CCradio+ a couple feet from me and the CCrane AM Antenna
up in the window (where the top and bottom come together and form
a little ledge).

The CCrane AM Antenna increases = EXTREMELY = the quantity and
quality of stations, both daytime and nighttime.

One of my friends has a CCradio and the AM Antenna in a wood
frame house and the AM Antenna barely helps with his CCradio but
has = DRASTIC = improvements when used with other AM radios he
has.

Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.


That would be what I'd do. I don't begrudge the money I spent on
the CCradioPlus at all; it was a nice addition and in my peculiar
case, the CCrane antenna is a big help but I might could build a
shelf up in the window and stand on a ladder to tune it and have
the same reception with just the CCradio (grin).



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradioPlus
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



I agree. The only weak point I have seen with mine is that it does not
"null" signals as well as a premium loop antenna.

-- Stinger

FO&A,

"Instead of the CCrane antenna,
I may decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead."

The CCRadio and the CCRadioPlus both have a 200mm (8") AM/MW
Ferrite Rod Antenna just like the GE Superadios.

~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Michael" wrote in message
= = = . net...
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Jay Heyl" wrote:
| What you view as a problem with the SR3, many view as a blessing. The
| directionality of the antenna allows you to null out unwanted signals
| and pull in weaker signals that would otherwise not be listenable.
| Among DXers, directionality is a highly desireable feature.

Roger that. I've heard three stations on the same graveyard
channel with my "Stupor Radio Three," as I like to call it.
It's quite a good little radio. I want to build a marker generator
for this thing. I wish I could make the dial alignment a little
better - I've realigned it twice, but guess I'll have another go,
one of these days.

No question about the dial... I wish the SR-III was digital. IMO, that is
the major draw back of the SR-III. Instead of the CCrane antenna, I may
decide to buy the CC Radio Plus instead. Having a digital radio will
probably be more of a boost to my medium wave DXing then getting another
feritte bar for my SR-III that already has a nice big one in it.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: KA-1101,KA-1102,PL-550,
KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com