"Brian" wrote in message thlink.net...
Would you just use the cars existing antenna? Just curious.


Brian

Hey Brian!
I don't kow much about the technicalities of shortwave,but I started
by strapping a TecsunPL 230 to my sunroof with a velcro strap and
having the antenna sticking out.
(That works)
I sold the car with the sunroof and was shortwaveless =-(
(WBCQ is GREAT on the weekends)
also during the week http://www.thepowerhour.com
is pretty good for natural cures and news Clearchannel won't give you.
Then theres Alex Jones http:www.infowars.com
for blood curdling news weekdays follwed by Jack Blood
http:www.jackblood.com
So I missed getting my shows in the car and
....a freind of mine who used to be a British Sportscar nut said most
English cars used to come
with AM/SW
(Jaguars especially)
I got to thinking
I had this wild idea of clipping a wire to the antenna
(by the spare tire you can just clip to the connection with an
alligator clip,you can probably even clip or insert a thin wire by the
radio end but I couldn't get my hand in there) and run a wire and clip
to your radios SW antenna,I hope to get an small plug to replace the
alligator clip soon because the Tecsun has an antenna input.
Anyway...
YES your regular car antenna will work!
I asked a guy at radio shack about what kind of antenna I would need
and he told me I had to buy a special one and was showing me all sorts
a diagrams and how many feet the wire had to be for certian stations
and dipoles and yadda bladah da,he made it sound impossible.
(It was stumping him cuz I'm sure nobody ever asked him before =-)
But it isn't.
I never listen to the experts LOL
And I'm no radio technician but am an experimenter when I wat to get
something accomplished.
Your car antenna works fine for the cost of a double ended aligator
clip thingie,and some wire.
I've also got a personal CD Player with a wireless
FM transmitter on the way and plan on plugging that(Transmitter) into
the SW's headphone jack.
Then the shortwave will be coming in over my big stereo.=-)
I used a cell phone holder bracket thingie swivel base and put velcro
I had laying around on the radio,and the swivel thing and it's even
mounted now for pennies. PS
If you ride a bike by the way you can clip a wire from the antenna of
a shortwave radio to any metal part of the bike and you get as good
reception as can be expected
(just saying)
Too bad BPL is on it's way here...till then you can get it in your
car without a lot of expensive stuff.

peace

except for California where it's illegal to even have a shortwave broadcast
reciever in your car.

If you don't believe me, check out the California laws regarding shortwave
while in your car, for yourself.

Are you just kidding?!

Are you just kidding?!


unfortunately, no.

The california law says "shortwave recievcer" and lists some banned frequency
ranges between 1620 khz and 30000 khz (30 mhz)

I just found the information again and I did make a few mistakes. I found the
actual banned frequencies but this makes it even more interesting because it
seems that most shortwave listeners are okay. It's the AM broadcast band
listeners who are at risk of being legally arrested for listening!!!

My mistake saying it was "California Law" although the info was in a section
about California listening laws. However, the fact is that it IS Los Angeles
County Law.

The law bans "any shortwave reciever installed in a car".

The law further goes on to define "a shortwave reciever".

According to L.A. law, a shortwave radio reciever is any radio eciever that is
capable of tuning on or between 1600 kilocycles and 2500 kilocycles and on or
between 30 megacycles and 40 megacycles.

This law IS still in effect in L.A. county.

(whethe r or not it's still enforced is another matter, but you could be
legally arrested for having such a radio installed in your car if you're in Los
Angeles county.

And most cars today have such radios installed as part of the manufacturing
process.

You can easily find shortwave radios that do not cover 1600 to 2500 khz.

However, the AM broadcast band goes to 1710 khz, which is standard in cars, and
illegal to have installed in a car in L.A. county.

After all, the 1600 mc to 1710 kc portion of the AM broadcast band is in the
banned range of 1600 kc to 2500 kc.

Once again, this applies only to the city and county of Los Angeles,
California.

"The land of fruits and nuts".

**** you.

Without our fruits and nuts you'd have less variety on your table.

We built Space Shuttles and P-38s you ****!

On 10 Jun 2004 19:21:25 GMT, (Mediaguy500)
wrote:

I just found the information again and I did make a few mistakes. I found the
actual banned frequencies but this makes it even more interesting because it
seems that most shortwave listeners are okay. It's the AM broadcast band
listeners who are at risk of being legally arrested for listening!!!

My mistake saying it was "California Law" although the info was in a section
about California listening laws. However, the fact is that it IS Los Angeles
County Law.

The law bans "any shortwave reciever installed in a car".

The law further goes on to define "a shortwave reciever".

According to L.A. law, a shortwave radio reciever is any radio eciever that is
capable of tuning on or between 1600 kilocycles and 2500 kilocycles and on or
between 30 megacycles and 40 megacycles.

This law IS still in effect in L.A. county.

(whethe r or not it's still enforced is another matter, but you could be
legally arrested for having such a radio installed in your car if you're in Los
Angeles county.

And most cars today have such radios installed as part of the manufacturing
process.

You can easily find shortwave radios that do not cover 1600 to 2500 khz.

However, the AM broadcast band goes to 1710 khz, which is standard in cars, and
illegal to have installed in a car in L.A. county.

After all, the 1600 mc to 1710 kc portion of the AM broadcast band is in the
banned range of 1600 kc to 2500 kc.

Once again, this applies only to the city and county of Los Angeles,
California.

"The land of fruits and nuts".

**** you.

Without our fruits and nuts you'd have less variety on your table.


chill out. It's just a very old joke that maany people have heard in the past.

However, from your respone, I guess it's true what I've heard in the past that
people in the West can't laugh at theirselves like people in the midwest can
and do.

Here in my particulatr part of the midwest, around Christmas, our tv station
shows Santa Claus dressed as the Easter Bunny (instead of a red suit) and
carrying a basket full of Easter eggs while clibing down the chimneyof a
snow-covered roof to deliver the Easter eggs as Christmas presents.

And I'm not joking, either. I'm serious.

What I'm saying is that if you're driving through L.A. county, California, and
you decide t o give a police officer a hard time, he can legally arrest you for
having the regular AM broadcast band only radio installed in your car. (if he
wants to get nitpicky with you, since the law is still in effect, though
outdated).

I meant to give this url for the website I got it from.

www.monitoringtimes.com/htm/mtlaws/oct103.html

okay. I'm out of my facetious mood now, and back into a normal mood.

so there will probably be real radio frequency loggings from me posted in this
newsgroup soon.