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Michael 'my bong is full, and I got matches' Bryant wrote: From: dxAce And we are certainly not, Fat Boy. The USofA is merely fighting terrorism, a war the USofA clearly did not start. And in the process, definig anything we oppose as teerorism or terrorist-supporters. Having a bad day with the spell-checker, Fat Boy? |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message And in the process, definig anything we oppose as teerorism or terrorist-supporters. Did you know they use a substance as hard as your head to cut glass? |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "T. Early" So? Are you incapable of figuring out the obvious? So, it's ashame we're killing our own forces. Yes, it's a shame and it's a shame every time it's happened since the Revolutionary War. And that's worth bandwidth in this group because....? In other words..so? |
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I am wondering, if possibly, he was shot by his own guys for some reason or
another? There were numerous examples of this during the Vietnam war, where soilders made the decision to take out the incompetent leaders to save their own lives. No matther what this guy was out there helping preserve our freedom, right our wrong! "David" wrote in message ... Tillman killed by friendly fire Pat Tillman Billy House Republic Washington Bureau May. 29, 2004 12:00 AM WASHINGTON - Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinals football player who died in April while a U.S. soldier fighting in Afghanistan, likely was killed by friendly fire, an Army investigation has concluded. News of that finding was disseminated Friday to some members of Congress and some Tillman family members just as the Memorial Day weekend was to begin, including today's dedication ceremonies in Washington of the World War II Memorial. "It does seem pretty clear that he was killed by friendly fire," said Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., a member of the House Armed Services Committee, which was alerted to the information by the Army's Legislative Liaison Office. "This does not take away one iota from the heroic nature and courage of the man. The source of that fire is of little consequence in terms of heroism," Franks said. He said that after learning of the Army's conclusions, he made some follow-up inquiries and was satisfied the information was accurate. Friendly-fire accidents are an inevitable part of warfare, according to an expert, who agreed that it should not diminish acts of heroism. "It's tragic, and we probably feel worse about it," said Stephen Walt, a professor of International Affairs at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. "But warfare is a inherently unpredictable activity. Friendly-fire accidents are a part of modern warfare and probably existed as far back as the Stone Age." The Army reported last month that Tillman, 27, was killed April 22 while leading his team of Army Rangers up a remote southeastern Afghanistan hill to knock out enemy fire that had pinned down other U.S. soldiers. More information . Pat Tillman: An Arizona Hero As Tillman and other soldiers neared the hill's crest, the Army reported, Tillman directed his team into firing positions and was shot and killed as he sprayed enemy positions with fire from his automatic weapon. The Army did not specify who fired the shot or shots that killed Tillman. For his actions, the Army posthumously awarded Tillman the Silver Star, its third-highest award for combat valor, saying Tillman led his Ranger team that day "without regard for his own safety" and was shot and killed heroically trying to save his comrades. The Army said his actions helped the trapped soldiers maneuver to safety "without taking a single casualty." Tillman's platoon was in the region as part of a spring offensive called Operation Mountain Storm, aimed at rooting out hard-line Taliban and al-Qaida fighters. Tillman, who to many people had become a symbol of American patriotism, had walked away from a lucrative contract extension offered by the Cardinals to join the Army in 2002. Officials at the Pentagon and at Central Command headquarters in Tampa, late Friday declined to provide more details of the investigation's findings. But an e-mail circulated within the House Armed Services Committee from committee staff members said: "Army just called to give us a heads up. They have every reason to believe the 15-6 investigation shows Pat Tillman was killed as a result of friendly fire." That same message continues, "The Army has notified his family, so it may come out in the media this weekend." Army Regulation 15-6 is used as the basis for many investigations requiring a detailed gathering and analyzing of facts, from "fratricide accidents," or friendly-fire incidents, to other matters, including civilian shootings or injuries, accidental weapons discharges or allegations of misconduct. |
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Jim Douglas wrote: I am wondering, if possibly, he was shot by his own guys for some reason or another? There were numerous examples of this during the Vietnam war, where soilders made the decision to take out the incompetent leaders to save their own lives. Perhaps... but you've stooped to the idiocy of Bryant with that one. You should be ashamed of yourself. Consider yourself a 'tard! Have a nice day... choke on your chicken, and all of that. |
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War is stupid. We are all guilty for allowing this insanity to
continue. On Sat, 29 May 2004 12:05:01 -0400, "T. Early" wrote: "David" wrote in message .. . Tillman killed by friendly fire Pat Tillman Billy House Republic Washington Bureau May. 29, 2004 12:00 AM So? |
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"T. Early"
wrote: So? So, you say that all war results in friendly fire deaths. Good reason to carefully scrutinize when to engage in armed conflict, right? Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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Michael 'I'm a disgusting fat apologist for the left' Bryant wrote: "T. Early" wrote: So? So, you say that all war results in friendly fire deaths. Good reason to carefully scrutinize when to engage in armed conflict, right? Do you wake up stupid, or do you find it takes a few minutes to get up to speed? |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... "T. Early" wrote: So? So, you say that all war results in friendly fire deaths. Good reason to carefully scrutinize when to engage in armed conflict, right? I'd agree with that. But it's also a good reason to carefully scrutinize why you to omit/snip the particular posts to which you're responding. Here's my post indicating that "all war results in friendly fire deaths": "Yes, it's a shame and it's a shame every time it's happened since the Revolutionary War. And that's worth bandwidth in this group because....?" Unfortunately I did not get an answer to -that- question, which is why I assume it was not reproduced. |
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