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BC 312/342 IF (at least mine) is 470KC.
The 3-6 MC ARC 5 receiver IF is 1415, the 6-9.1 range ARC 5 radio IF is 2830. Nice thing about these ARC 5 sets is often the transformers have been fully enclosed for 60 years and are still shuny and new looking. A beat up 6-9.1 range one wouldn't be too hard to turn up (I've got one here somewhere if anyone seriously wants to give this notion a shot). High IF's do sound good. The Philco 42-350 (IIRC) uses the same ~5MC IF for all the bands. Quite a bit less gain per stage than 455KC will deliver, but closer to simple receiver quality audio. Jeff Goldsmith Henry Kolesnik wrote: TRFs are nice receivers, I had several back in the 1950s becasue that's all I could find for free or next to nothing. The problem with a tuneable TRF is that the bandwidth increases as you tune to higher frequencies. BW=f/Q with Q being relatively constant over the BCB. Since you seem to have a passion for a fix tuned TRF I'd suggest using old IF transformers for your coils. It should be relatively easy to remove turns to get the freq up. Some receivers, particularly military ones were made with IFs in the BCB. The BC-454 that covered 6 to 9 Mcs had an IF of 1415 Kc. The BC-348 has an IF of 915 Kc and the BC-312 and BC-342 also skipped the BCB but I can't recall their IFs but I'll bet Google will find em. Scour the hamfests and you'll find plenty but prices are going up. If you can find a BC-946 you'll have a gem for a BCB Rx. -- 73 Hank WD5JFR "Jon Noring" wrote in message ... In Patrick Turner's latest message replying to the thread I started on building a high-performance AM tube tuner, he stated his skepticism that a pure TRF circuit will, in a practical sense, meet the specs I'm looking for (to meet the specs will require an impractical number of RF amplifier stages, such as six or more.) Within the design constraints he selected, I cannot disagree with his conclusion. However, one of the constraints he made, and that most make, is that tuning is to be done by an infinitely variable multigang air capacitor. I wonder if the same conclusion would be reached if we approach this from a single channel perspective? That is, what if we fix the frequency we want to receive (e.g., 830khz, or 1420khz), and then for each stage optimize the parallel RLC circuit (or use some other tuned circuit with the right resonance and bandwidth response -- crystals?) With the much greater design freedom this should allow, could we now possibly meet the specs with only two or three RF amps, for any frequency in the 500 to 1800khz range? For a simplified diagram of a two RF stage TRF receiver, see page 7 of: http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca...531unit6rx.ppt Now, if this single channel approach indeed makes TRF more attractive, then the next step is obvious -- consider building the TRF AM tuner with selectable channels. Obviously, the downsides to this a the need for a switch, the complexity and cost of having lots of channels if we want to cover the whole BCB range (e.g., 120+, every 10khz in North America, and 9khz in Europe and elsewhere), and the issue of oscillation due to interference between the RF stages (shielding and proper layout design will likely be very critical.) I envision the tuned circuits for each channel being put on a mini-board which will plug into a slot, but then there may be other ways to handle the large number of tuned circuits necessary to cover the whole BCB (360+ of them -- this does sound quite expensive.) Thoughts? ***** Of course, the other alternative is to modernize a proven design of a super-het tube radio from yesteryear (the final audio amplifier will be stripped out, replaced with a line-out.) Which radio circuits would you nominate (with improvements), which provide excellent audio fidelity (probably with variable bandwidth control), very good sensitivity and selectivity, and other desirable specs? In addition, the circuit design should be "forgiving", so those who build it from kits (with pre-made PCB boards and proper guidance on layout and shielding) will likely be successful -- the parts, too, should be purchasable as NS from somewhere (NO SCROUNGING for old used parts as I've noted before). We probably need to make special arrangements for producing the various coils, since not everyone is going to want to wind their own coils. Jon Noring |
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