Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:
"John Byrns" wrote in message
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The term "local stations" as used above has also been used recently in
several other threads. I am curious what the readers of this forum would
consider to be a "local station"?


I have no idea what they use to describe them now...


The local "graveyard" stations are on 1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450 and
1490. Nearly all are 1000 Watts day and night.

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Mike Westfall WDX6O wrote:

Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:
"John Byrns" wrote in message
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The term "local stations" as used above has also been used recently in
several other threads. I am curious what the readers of this forum would
consider to be a "local station"?


I have no idea what they use to describe them now...

The local "graveyard" stations are on 1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450 and
1490. Nearly all are 1000 Watts day and night.

--
Mike Westfall, N6KUY, WDX6O


Yep, ye olde "local channel" stations as they used to call them. If
you lived on top of one, it was fine in the daytime. But anywhere in
the USA I've ever been, those frequencies are hash at night.

What defines "local stations" in a practical "everyday" sense as far
as reception goes is a good question. I think everyone would have their
own definition of that. I would confine it to mean stations clearly
receiveable, at or near full modulation, in the *daytime*. With a good
MW receiver and antenna, many, many stations become, in effect, "local"
stations at night, especially in the wintertime.

When I was growing up in Detroit 40 years ago, the two most distant
stations that came in clearly, if dimly (but no fade or distortion) were
in Marine City, MI (50 miles away) a 5,000W station, and Saline, MI (33
miles away) a one or two thousand watt station, best as I recall. That
was daytime listening. At night, WBZ from Boston was easy listening,
night after night, but would hardly qualify as a "local" station to the
Detroit area. The magic of nightime is was hooked me on DX in the first
place.

Yeah, good "bull session" question.

Tony

In article , "Brenda Ann Dyer"
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"John Byrns" wrote in message
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The term "local stations" as used above has also been used recently in
several other threads. I am curious what the readers of this forum would
consider to be a "local station"?

I have no idea what they use to describe them now... but I remember that
AM's used to be basically classed as either Local (frequencies such as
1230.. 1 KW or less daytime power), Regional (frequencies such as 620... 5
KW-50KW daytime power) and Clear channel (frequencies such as 1160.. 50 KW
daytime and nighttime power). Locals were generally required to go off the
air at dusk unless they had specific nighttime authorization, which
generally required drastic power reduction and/or directional antenna system
(most with nighttime authorization would run at 250 watts, but I know of
some that run as little as 10 watts nighttime... as in why bother??)

Well yes, a "Local" station is an obsolete FCC term for what are now
called class C stations. Class C stations operate with full power both day
and night by the way. That isn't exactly what I was asking about though,
considering the FCC doesn't have dominion over Australia, which is where
the post originated that used the term.

I was using the term in the context of a receiver designed to receive only
"local stations", and not intended for receiving distant stations, as for
example the old AA4 radios that didn't have an IF amplifier stage, where
the converter drove the detector directly.

What I was wondering was what range of field strengths those "local
station" receivers might have been intended to receive?


Regards,

John Byrns


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