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T. Early July 20th 04 04:15 AM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. ..
Quoth "-=jd=-" in
:

True - If they play their cards right, they *should* be #1 in NYC.


They'd have to add about 20kW to the 30 kW WLIB transmitter to have

a fair
shot at #1.

#2 ain't bad for three months. Let's see whether they can hold onto

it.


I'm not that familiar with the New York AM market--that's #2 in 25-54
out of 3 -talk- stations, correct? As opposed to #2 overall on AM.
And with all respect to your well-taken point regarding the
transmitter, there is still a huge disproportion of liberals to
conservatives all over NYC--a huge built in market that should
minimize any transmitter issues.



Tom Betz July 20th 04 01:02 PM

Quoth "T. Early" in news:40fc8e47$0$5635
:

I'm not that familiar with the New York AM market--that's #2 in 25-54
out of 3 -talk- stations, correct?


Correct.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

dxAce July 20th 04 01:08 PM



Tom Betz wrote:

Quoth "T. Early" in news:40fc8e47$0$5635
:

I'm not that familiar with the New York AM market--that's #2 in 25-54
out of 3 -talk- stations, correct?


Correct.


But Rush is still #1, right?

Please don't give me a whiny answer.



dxAce July 20th 04 02:19 PM



"T. Early" wrote:

"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. ..
Quoth "-=jd=-" in
:

True - If they play their cards right, they *should* be #1 in NYC.


They'd have to add about 20kW to the 30 kW WLIB transmitter to have

a fair
shot at #1.

#2 ain't bad for three months. Let's see whether they can hold onto

it.


I'm not that familiar with the New York AM market--that's #2 in 25-54
out of 3 -talk- stations, correct? As opposed to #2 overall on AM.
And with all respect to your well-taken point regarding the
transmitter, there is still a huge disproportion of liberals to
conservatives all over NYC--a huge built in market that should
minimize any transmitter issues.


Some Arbitron ratings I just looked at placed WLIB 24th in the NYC market.

dxAce



Tom Betz July 20th 04 02:41 PM

Quoth dxAce in :

Some Arbitron ratings I just looked at placed WLIB 24th in the NYC market.


In the 12+ demo, 24th overall. But there aren't a lot of talk stations in
NYC.

http://radioandrecords.com/RRRatings...4&RY=2004&RQ=2
&MP=0&OTHER=2&MN=New%20York&MS=NY&MR=1&12P=1534000 0&UP=7/16/2004&SU=CM&BPER=
17.5&HPER=19.1&OPER=&NSD=8/23/2004&CE=0 aka http://tinyurl.com/6wb69 is a
readily available source for the most recently published 12+ ratings. It
also shows the breakdown of station owners and format.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

David Eduardo July 20th 04 04:13 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "T. Early" in news:40fc8e47$0$5635
:

I'm not that familiar with the New York AM market--that's #2 in 25-54
out of 3 -talk- stations, correct?


Correct.


No, it is also behind WFAN, a sports talker and WADO, a Spanish talker. Make
that #4 out of 5.



David Eduardo July 20th 04 04:14 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth dxAce in :

Some Arbitron ratings I just looked at placed WLIB 24th in the NYC
market.


In the 12+ demo, 24th overall. But there aren't a lot of talk stations in
NYC.


770, 620, 1280, 1050, 1190, 710 are all talk. Sports talk is also talk.



David Eduardo July 20th 04 04:15 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "T. Early" in news:40f800e1$0$10390
:

And that's the margin in one of the most liberal cities in the
country.


... on a 30kW (daytime) signal at 1190 kHz, as opposed to a 50 kW (24/7)
signal at 770 kHz.


WLIB is fulltime.



Tom Betz July 20th 04 04:25 PM

Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:oFaLc.24234$bj2.733
@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com:

Sports talk is also talk.


It's a whole different breed of talk, but I'll be happy to accept your
judgement for discussion purposes.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Tom Betz July 20th 04 04:31 PM

Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:uGaLc.24235$7j2.20103
@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 70...
Quoth "T. Early" in news:40f800e1$0$10390
:

And that's the margin in one of the most liberal cities in the
country.


... on a 30kW (daytime) signal at 1190 kHz, as opposed to a 50 kW (24/7)
signal at 770 kHz.


WLIB is fulltime.


Yes, I was unclear in my expression; I meant to state their daytime power,
which covers the ratings time periods under discussion.

I see that I mistakenly gave the nighttime power (30 kW) for the daytime
power (really 10 kW, according to radio-locator.com).

Which makes their daytime ratings compared with the 50 kW WABC and WOR even
more impressive.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.


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