Sounds good, I'll send it to drake first so they can brake some more, I'll
pay them and then send it to you with the cash in small bills. Drake should
be done with the radio in about eight months. Its on its way. It's
definatly probably unfair to characterize Kerry as a flip-flopper.

"clifto" wrote in message
...
Ken wrote:
I have a radio for sale. It is not working very well, it is broken. It
has
issues. It needs to be fixed, otherwise it is in perfect condition. It
has
had a tune up from Drake within the last two years and hasn't worked
since.
Make me an offer. $1000 sounds about right. I will only ship to stupid
people that don't know how to find me, because I know you will be really
mad
at me for selling you this radio. In the mean time I will try and have
the
radio fixed. If I can't have it fixed I will sell the peice of crap for
$1000. Call me if your interested.

I'll offer you $1.38 for it, or if you prefer I'll fix it for $2,500.00
US.
Ship it with a postal money order for $2,500 to clifto, General Delivery,
Chicago, IL and let me know when it's coming.

--
It's unfair to characterize Kerry as a flip-flopper. He's consistently in
favor of marrying a rich widow and buying your way into the White House.
-- Rex Tincher

"Peter Breslin" wrote in message
news
Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend.

Save yourself from spending $1000 on a shortwave radio.

Doing such would be a VERY foolish thing to do.
There is simply **not** a SW radio I know of that is worth that
kind of mobey - period.

Get yourself a Tecsun digital SW and it will do all you
need it to do for under $100. (see links below)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5517 227&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5417 084&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5828 748&rd=1

martybeansuc wrote:

"Peter Breslin" wrote in message
news
Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend.

Save yourself from spending $1000 on a shortwave radio.

Doing such would be a VERY foolish thing to do.
There is simply **not** a SW radio I know of that is worth that
kind of mobey - period.

There are certainly very many of us who would disagree with you!

We're willing to spend our 'mobey' for performance.

dxAce

I agree. The money I spent on my R8B last year was well worth the
performance.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


martybeansuc wrote:

"Peter Breslin" wrote in message
news
Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend.

Save yourself from spending $1000 on a shortwave radio.

Doing such would be a VERY foolish thing to do.
There is simply **not** a SW radio I know of that is worth that
kind of mobey - period.

There are certainly very many of us who would disagree with you!

We're willing to spend our 'mobey' for performance.

dxAce

"martybeansuc" wrote in message
groups.com...

"Peter Breslin" wrote in message
news
Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a
semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend.

Save yourself from spending $1000 on a shortwave radio.

Doing such would be a VERY foolish thing to do.
There is simply **not** a SW radio I know of that is worth that
kind of mobey - period.

Get yourself a Tecsun digital SW and it will do all you
need it to do for under $100. (see links below)


Meaning no disrespect to the Tecsun, how is it that someone who I have
no recollection of ever having posted here before has such a
definitive view on the value of higher end radios? I'd like to know
since I've been saving for 2 years for a used Drake R8 and presently
have $96.12 in various coins, mostly pennies. Am I wasting my time?

"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"martybeansuc" wrote in message
groups.com...

"Peter Breslin" wrote in message
news
Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a
semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend.

Save yourself from spending $1000 on a shortwave radio.

Doing such would be a VERY foolish thing to do.
There is simply **not** a SW radio I know of that is worth that
kind of mobey - period.

Get yourself a Tecsun digital SW and it will do all you
need it to do for under $100. (see links below)


Meaning no disrespect to the Tecsun, how is it that someone who I have
no recollection of ever having posted here before has such a
definitive view on the value of higher end radios? I'd like to know
since I've been saving for 2 years for a used Drake R8 and presently
have $96.12 in various coins, mostly pennies. Am I wasting my time?



It also takes talent to operate a high end radio properly and once you learn
to tweak the controls right the experienced listener knows were that extra
money went. I've always been a DX hound and utility listener and no Tecsun
is going to cut it for my needs.


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/

T. Early wrote:

Meaning no disrespect to the Tecsun, how is it that someone who I have
no recollection of ever having posted here before has such a
definitive view on the value of higher end radios? I'd like to know
since I've been saving for 2 years for a used Drake R8 and presently
have $96.12 in various coins, mostly pennies. Am I wasting my time?


Imperialist swine! I have but seventy *Canadian* dollars saved during
TWENTY years of constant self deprivation. If you, as the running pig
dog of the Kapitalist scourge, would stop playing mit das currency, I
could be saving schneller. I pray the Radio Shack still has that dx-150
in stock...it's been a while since I looked as it's a long walk into the
next larger town.





mike

Peter Breslin schrieb:

Hello. I need help from the group. I'm looking to purchase a semi
high end radio and have about $1000 to spend. I've heard and read
plenty about the R8B and will probably go that direction. That said,
I'm also intrigued by computer radios, ie. Winradio. They have a 313i
model that some say has a greater ability and functionality than the
Drake or any hardware based radio. Any thoughts on a best buy in my
price range - new or Ebay? And do you think that computer radios may
now rival their external brothers? Thanks in advance for the consult.

Well, what's your usage pattern? I.e.: What have you been using till
now? Are you a hard-core knob twiddler or would you get along just as
well with a PC interface? What kind of stuff do you like to receive,
classic AM and SSB or rather advanced data modes? Do you listen a lot
without a PC running? Finally, the distance and lead-in type of the
antenna would be of interest.

The strengths of PC based receivers with digitized IF out (G303i) or
programmable DSP (G313i) a
+ FLEXIBILITY, in caps. Given the right software (for the G3 series, the
"pro" demodulator may be worth an investment), you can demodulate
virtually anything, modes with higher than usual bandwidths included.
DSP IF filtering can also be applied, along with all the DSP goodies.
+ Easy band scans, to check for emerging DX and suchlike
+ No expensive front panel etc. needed, reduces cost

And their weaknesses:
- Cannot operate without a PC running. The antenna better be as far away
as possible, with shielded coax lead-in. Comfy bedside listening is
better done with something else. Also, the locations of PC and
receiver are not independent. It's kind of hard to lug an internal
receiver like this to a DXpedition.
- May not handle big antennas as well as ordinary communications
receivers.
- Software availability not equal for all platforms.
- Can virtual knobs and buttons make up for their real counterparts?
- Quite some host computing power required unless rx comes with built-in
DSP - my PIII-500E here nicely breaks into sweat when it comes to
decoding DRM via DREAM, which I happened to try today (with decent
results on my unmodified AR7030 using DATA mode, BFO 0.0 kHz, PBS
-4.2 kHz, though the SNR could have been some 10 dB higher with a
modified rx [DW on 13780 was very strong and reached some 25 dB SNR,
while a modified AR7030 can reach up to 35 dB])

Comments of the G3x3i's shielding seem to have been very positive so
far, so that does not seem to be an issue. As by the G303i's review in
Short Wave Magazine (downloadable), oscillator phase noise is pretty
good (-123 dBc @ 10 kHz), while strong signal handling is average (IP3
+3 dBm vs. +30 dBm for an AR7030 measured the same way).

Stephan
--
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