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Old August 23rd 04, 02:15 AM
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Any clear-thinking individual would agree that many American soldiers did
indeed carry out atrocities in VN.


Ok professor. You're on. I'm a clear-thinking individual and I will
NOT agree to your proposal here. How many is "many"? Ok there was My
Lai. Rattle off a few others. And demonstrate your meaning of
"many". A hundred? A thousand? Ten thousand? Granted one is too
many. But how many is "many" ?


Hundreds of different accounts exist regarding the atrocities committed by US
soldiers in VN. Including over 100 "fragging" investigations conducted by the
Pentagon. There's a reason why most VN villagers supported the VC over US
troops.

But, let me be clear: the vast majority of US troops were just kids thrown into
an unwinnable situation. They were not evil. Their leaders let them down.



The war was a horrible mistake and resulted
in the largest embarrassment that our military ever faced.


Amen and amen, professor. Agreed. No doubt about it. Will we ever
know what precipitated it? Oh yeah .. they told us we were there to
stop communism. Right. It didn't do a lot to stop communism, but a
lot of large corporations made a lot of pesos off the war, didn't
they?

I even heard .. that the Johnson family owned a transport company that
was shipping the war supplies. Yep, Lyndon "I'll go to war myself
before I send someone else's son to war" Johnson. Those Johnsons.


Well, gee, when have I ever defended LBJ?
Kennedy, LBJ and Nixon were all deluded and misled by defense advisors.
Kissinger and McNamara were serious offenders.


And we thought only republicans were involved in big business and war
mongering.


Nope. Never said that.


Proving that GREED is a bi-partisan quality. Yes?


Agreed.

Now explain how our agreement disproves that both Republicans and Democrats
made bad decisions in VN.

And you always drift. Even if LBJ and the Demos shared responsibility for VN,
how does that refute anything Kerry had to say about VN.

Kerry spoke the truth. I respect that in someone who I intend to vote for.


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Old August 23rd 04, 02:22 AM
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Michael Bryant wrote:

From: (KK4TL)


(Michael Bryant) wrote ...


Any clear-thinking individual would agree that many American soldiers did
indeed carry out atrocities in VN.


Ok professor. You're on. I'm a clear-thinking individual and I will
NOT agree to your proposal here. How many is "many"? Ok there was My
Lai. Rattle off a few others. And demonstrate your meaning of
"many". A hundred? A thousand? Ten thousand? Granted one is too
many. But how many is "many" ?


Hundreds of different accounts exist regarding the atrocities committed by US
soldiers in VN. Including over 100 "fragging" investigations conducted by the
Pentagon. There's a reason why most VN villagers supported the VC over US
troops.

But, let me be clear: the vast majority of US troops were just kids thrown into
an unwinnable situation. They were not evil. Their leaders let them down.


The war was a horrible mistake and resulted
in the largest embarrassment that our military ever faced.


Amen and amen, professor. Agreed. No doubt about it. Will we ever
know what precipitated it? Oh yeah .. they told us we were there to
stop communism. Right. It didn't do a lot to stop communism, but a
lot of large corporations made a lot of pesos off the war, didn't
they?

I even heard .. that the Johnson family owned a transport company that
was shipping the war supplies. Yep, Lyndon "I'll go to war myself
before I send someone else's son to war" Johnson. Those Johnsons.


Well, gee, when have I ever defended LBJ?
Kennedy, LBJ and Nixon were all deluded and misled by defense advisors.
Kissinger and McNamara were serious offenders.


And we thought only republicans were involved in big business and war
mongering.


Nope. Never said that.


Proving that GREED is a bi-partisan quality. Yes?


Agreed.

Now explain how our agreement disproves that both Republicans and Democrats
made bad decisions in VN.

And you always drift. Even if LBJ and the Demos shared responsibility for VN,
how does that refute anything Kerry had to say about VN.

Kerry spoke the truth. I respect that in someone who I intend to vote for.


WOW! The truth means something to you? The guy who lied about having a PhD? The guy
who called me on the phone telling me how he'd been fired from Louisville Technical
Institute? ( a proven lie by the way).

You're your own little circus, aren't you?

dxAce


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