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More 1103 Logs
Sept 5
DE1103 11530 1956 USA-AL, WEWN-Vandiver Spanish Good 11775 1958 ANGUILLA, WUN English Excellent 11815 2000 COSTA RICA, REE Spanish Good 11840 2001 MOROCCO, VOA-Briech Ukrainian Good 11850 2003 TURKEY, VoT-Emirler French Fair 11855 2005 ASCENSION, VOA English Fair,NoWYFR 11955 2006 GABON, RFI-Moyabi French Excellent 11975 2008 SAO TOME, VOA-Pinheira English Good 11995 2010 FRANCE, RFI-Issoudun French Fair 12050 2011 EGYPT, RC-Abis Arabic Good, distort 13620 1953 INDIA, AIR-Bangalore French Fair, //13605 13630 1952 USA-NC, R Marti-Greenville Spanish Heavy Jamming,//11930 13700 1950 CANADA, RCI-Sackville French Excellent 13740 1948 CUBA, RNV-Habana Spanish Excellent 13760 1946 USA-IN, WHRI-Noblesville English Good 13770 1945 PORTUGAL, RDPI-Lisbon Portuguese Fair-Good 13780 1943 GERMANY, DW-Nauen German Weak 13795 1942 SWITZERLAND,SRI-Sottens English Fair 17800 2013 NIGERIA, VoN-Ikorodu English Good I hope Telamon is still out there.... ;-) Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) |
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I Smell the Green Eyed Monster Way out in California In article , Telamon writes: If I was doing what you are doing, which is to listen to a station for one or two minutes there is no way in hell I could state that I had identified them with the exception of say the top of the hour where stations usually ID themselves. Best case - What you are doing is to tune something in, look it up a database other people have taken the time to verify and generate then state you heard that station without identifying them yourself so your log is worthless. Worse case - You just made the log up. This is most likely in my opinion. You are not fooling anyone Bryant. You are just a Trolling poser. -- Telamon Ventura, California Tomorrow we can drive around this town And let the cops chase us around The past is gone but something might be found To take its place...hey jealousy ID THIS . . . . . Dan / NYC ( Hoping to retire to Florida & Live in a Prefab Farraday Cage...) |
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Diverd4777 wrote: I Smell the Green Eyed Monster Way out in California No one should be envious of a list-logger. dxAce In article , Telamon writes: If I was doing what you are doing, which is to listen to a station for one or two minutes there is no way in hell I could state that I had identified them with the exception of say the top of the hour where stations usually ID themselves. Best case - What you are doing is to tune something in, look it up a database other people have taken the time to verify and generate then state you heard that station without identifying them yourself so your log is worthless. Worse case - You just made the log up. This is most likely in my opinion. You are not fooling anyone Bryant. You are just a Trolling poser. -- Telamon Ventura, California Tomorrow we can drive around this town And let the cops chase us around The past is gone but something might be found To take its place...hey jealousy ID THIS . . . . . Dan / NYC ( Hoping to retire to Florida & Live in a Prefab Farraday Cage...) |
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Diverd4777 wrote: I Smell the Green Eyed Monster Way out in California In article , Telamon writes: If I was doing what you are doing, which is to listen to a station for one or two minutes there is no way in hell I could state that I had identified them with the exception of say the top of the hour where stations usually ID themselves. Best case - What you are doing is to tune something in, look it up a database other people have taken the time to verify and generate then state you heard that station without identifying them yourself so your log is worthless. Worse case - You just made the log up. This is most likely in my opinion. You are not fooling anyone Bryant. You are just a Trolling poser. -- Telamon Ventura, California Tomorrow we can drive around this town And let the cops chase us around The past is gone but something might be found To take its place...hey jealousy ID THIS . . . . . Gin Blossoms-Hey Jealousy dxAce Dan / NYC ( Hoping to retire to Florida & Live in a Prefab Farraday Cage...) |
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I strongly agree with Mr. Bryant on this. DXing is a very individual
activity. Some people meticulously spend hours on a particular frequency. I had a friend who was that way. He was incredibly thorough but he never ended up with many stations. That doesn't work for me. My attention span is too short to start with. If I can ID a station in two minutes, then that leaves me a lot more time available in that window to pull in even more stations. Plus, there's nothing wrong with using another person's database to make an ID easier. It's no different than using a digital display on a radio to find out where you are on the dial. Some purists would rather dx by ear only, and that's fine too. Most importantly, though, DXing should be fun. |
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lsmyer wrote: I strongly agree with Mr. Bryant on this. DXing is a very individual activity. Some people meticulously spend hours on a particular frequency. I had a friend who was that way. He was incredibly thorough but he never ended up with many stations. That doesn't work for me. My attention span is too short to start with. If I can ID a station in two minutes, then that leaves me a lot more time available in that window to pull in even more stations. Plus, there's nothing wrong with using another person's database to make an ID easier. It's no different than using a digital display on a radio to find out where you are on the dial. Some purists would rather dx by ear only, and that's fine too. Most importantly, though, DXing should be fun. Yes, but Bryant is not actually ID'ing the stations. He's running down a list (someone elses). That's OK, however since he has no real idea that that station is actually using that frequency at that time and place, he can at best put a tentative or presumed next to each log. Simply following someones list is a good way to confuse things as that station may or may not actually be the one he's hearing. He's just guessing, hoping that the list is accurate. He doesn't even know what country RTM-Sarawak is in, so he's certainly no dx'er. dxAce |
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In article ,
"lsmyer" wrote: I strongly agree with Mr. Bryant on this. DXing is a very individual activity. Some people meticulously spend hours on a particular frequency. I had a friend who was that way. He was incredibly thorough but he never ended up with many stations. That doesn't work for me. My attention span is too short to start with. If I can ID a station in two minutes, then that leaves me a lot more time available in that window to pull in even more stations. Plus, there's nothing wrong with using another person's database to make an ID easier. It's no different than using a digital display on a radio to find out where you are on the dial. Some purists would rather dx by ear only, and that's fine too. Most importantly, though, DXing should be fun. Well I strongly disagree. If you are going to post that you heard a certain station on a frequency at some time then you would have to listen long enough to identify that station. The time to do this could be just a minute if you happen to tune in at just the right time to catch an ID but that is not going to happen on a list like the one presented. Like I stated, best case, he is ASSUMING the ID of the station based on SOMEONE ELSE'S HARD WORK that spent the time listening to their radio. A log list that someone has taken the time to verify (ID) is worth reading and that's not Bryant's list. He probably just made the up the list anyway so you want to argue over nothing? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Agreed totally. My method (and people can criticize it but it is the way I
enjoy creating my own logs) is to scan through the entire sw spectrum within an hour. I don't try to identify every signal I can hear...I try to stick with English language transmissions, or at least, interesting music. I then use references such as Prime Time Shortwave, Passport and Monitoring times to identify the stations. Generally it is fairly obvious if you can figure out what the station is...if not I leave it as unidentified for now and move on. Sometimes the ID's are stumbled upon by identifying parallel frequencies with the same program. Is this stealing someone else's work? I don't think so. It is using whatever data I can to identify what I'm hearing, and I think this is totally correct and appropriate for me. Otherwise, what else do you use all the available data for? With this method I can do a band scan for each hour of the day and compile my own logs, which I update twice each Summer and twice each Winter. If someone states that you are stealing someone else's work unless you listen to each signal until you hear an ID they are applying their personal preferences in how to create logs onto everyone else and frankly I don't see how anyone has the right to do that. I realize I may get flamed for writing this and that's one of the reasons I seldom post to this group these days but felt it was necessary to speak my piece. Jay "lsmyer" wrote in message ... I strongly agree with Mr. Bryant on this. DXing is a very individual activity. Some people meticulously spend hours on a particular frequency. I had a friend who was that way. He was incredibly thorough but he never ended up with many stations. That doesn't work for me. My attention span is too short to start with. If I can ID a station in two minutes, then that leaves me a lot more time available in that window to pull in even more stations. Plus, there's nothing wrong with using another person's database to make an ID easier. It's no different than using a digital display on a radio to find out where you are on the dial. Some purists would rather dx by ear only, and that's fine too. Most importantly, though, DXing should be fun. |
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