From: "David"

use to log lots of DX stations like Michael Bryant when I was out in the
rural countryside with lots of property and good antennas. So I have no
question that Bryant is logging all those stations. Wonder what he uses for
antennas??

That's one of the reasons I haven't been posting as many lists lately. I live
in an apartment in an industrial suburban part of Louisville. I mainly use
about thirty feet of internal random wire, two West and North-pointing Sony
AN-LP1s, an MFJ 1020, and two of the Radio Shack Amplified SW antennas.

The point of these logs are that I'm hearing them on a new Degen 1103. With
just the extendable antenna rod!! It beats my 7600G even when the 7600G is
hooked to one of the AN-LP1s. The sensitivity seems to be much better than the
SW77.

I think this reflects some recent improvements in propagation, but the 1103 is
a hot receiver. I need to find a way to hook it up to an external antenna.

Impressed.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: "David"

use to log lots of DX stations like Michael Bryant when I was out in the
rural countryside with lots of property and good antennas. So I have no
question that Bryant is logging all those stations. Wonder what he uses for
antennas??

That's one of the reasons I haven't been posting as many lists lately. I live
in an apartment in an industrial suburban part of Louisville. I mainly use
about thirty feet of internal random wire, two West and North-pointing Sony
AN-LP1s, an MFJ 1020, and two of the Radio Shack Amplified SW antennas.

The point of these logs are that I'm hearing them on a new Degen 1103. With
just the extendable antenna rod!! It beats my 7600G even when the 7600G is
hooked to one of the AN-LP1s. The sensitivity seems to be much better than the
SW77.

I think this reflects some recent improvements in propagation, but the 1103 is
a hot receiver. I need to find a way to hook it up to an external antenna.

Impressed.

Sounds more to me that you are doing something wrong with the AN_LP1 /
7600G. That is if you are not just making it all up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Honus wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

snip

You're lucky at the moment, but like all list loggers, someday you'll
really screw
up, they all do. If you've been in the hobby for almost 40 years, surely
you'd be
aware of that.

Just what exactly is a list logger?

A list logger, in hobby parlance, is one who takes a published
frequency/station list, tunes his radio to said frequency at said time, and
then says 'I heard station 'xyz' at 2100 on frequency xxx', however, the
individual may have never heard an ID or anything that would actually indicate
that is indeed station 'xyz'.Their 'logging' is only as reliable (or
unreliable) as the list. Now, the list may or may not be correct, and the
station heard may not actually be the station on the list.

Things like that can and do happen. Proper identification leads to proper
lists, BUT, the list itself should only be used as a guide. Anything else is
merely a 'presumtive' logging of station 'xyz'

dxAce

Michael Bryant wrote:


Sept 5
DE1103

11530 1956 USA-AL, WEWN-Vandiver Spanish Good
11775 1958 ANGUILLA, WUN English Excellent
11815 2000 COSTA RICA, REE Spanish Good
etc...

Another nice list is available he


http://members.tripod.com/~bpadula/13mbsurvey.html


mike

From: m II

http://members.tripod.com/~bpadula/13mbsurvey.html


Nice, Mike. Thanks. Any more actual SW info?


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Michael Bryant wrote:

From: m II

http://members.tripod.com/~bpadula/13mbsurvey.html


Nice, Mike. Thanks. Any more actual SW info?

SW info? Personally, I'd rather hear more about your quest for that PhD.
You remember, the one you've lied about having previously.

dxAce

m II wrote:

Michael Bryant wrote:

Sept 5
DE1103

11530 1956 USA-AL, WEWN-Vandiver Spanish Good
11775 1958 ANGUILLA, WUN English Excellent
11815 2000 COSTA RICA, REE Spanish Good
etc...

Another nice list is available he

http://members.tripod.com/~bpadula/13mbsurvey.html

I particularly like the way that fellow repeats himself in the 4th and
5th paragraphs on the opening page.

Guess he was just trying to get his point across.

dxAce

In article , dxAce
wrote:

Michael Bryant wrote:

From: m II

http://members.tripod.com/~bpadula/13mbsurvey.html


Nice, Mike. Thanks. Any more actual SW info?

SW info? Personally, I'd rather hear more about your quest for that PhD.
You remember, the one you've lied about having previously.

Why don't you ask him if really owns a SW radio.

How do you know when Bryant is lying? When he posts something.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Honus wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

snip

You're lucky at the moment, but like all list loggers, someday you'll
really screw
up, they all do. If you've been in the hobby for almost 40 years,
surely
you'd be
aware of that.

Just what exactly is a list logger?

A list logger, in hobby parlance, is one who takes a published
frequency/station list, tunes his radio to said frequency at said time,
and
then says 'I heard station 'xyz' at 2100 on frequency xxx', however, the
individual may have never heard an ID or anything that would actually
indicate
that is indeed station 'xyz'.Their 'logging' is only as reliable (or
unreliable) as the list. Now, the list may or may not be correct, and the
station heard may not actually be the station on the list.

Ah. I thought as much. Is there any way of getting a sure station ID other
than on air identification, or perhaps simultaneous webcasts? (Or the
speaker identifying himself as Brother Stair.) It seems to me that anything
else would fall under the "presumptive" category.

I'm trying to be pretty picky about what I log. I'm doing this with my 9
year old daughter...we stick pins in a map on the wall marking the location
of the transmitters that we're receiving from. It's not as fun if we only
"think" that such and such a program came from such and such a place. I just
don't get why people would even bother list logging; it defeats the whole
purpose, in my view.

I'm a list lager, myself. If I drink too much beer, I tend to tilt to one
side.

In article ujT_c.2793$x12.561@trnddc05,
"Honus" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Honus wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

snip

You're lucky at the moment, but like all list loggers, someday
you'll really screw up, they all do. If you've been in the
hobby for almost 40 years, surely you'd be aware of that.

Just what exactly is a list logger?

A list logger, in hobby parlance, is one who takes a published
frequency/station list, tunes his radio to said frequency at said
time, and then says 'I heard station 'xyz' at 2100 on frequency
xxx', however, the individual may have never heard an ID or
anything that would actually indicate that is indeed station
'xyz'.Their 'logging' is only as reliable (or unreliable) as the
list. Now, the list may or may not be correct, and the station
heard may not actually be the station on the list.

Ah. I thought as much. Is there any way of getting a sure station ID
other than on air identification, or perhaps simultaneous webcasts?
(Or the speaker identifying himself as Brother Stair.) It seems to me
that anything else would fall under the "presumptive" category.

I'm trying to be pretty picky about what I log. I'm doing this with
my 9 year old daughter...we stick pins in a map on the wall marking
the location of the transmitters that we're receiving from. It's not
as fun if we only "think" that such and such a program came from such
and such a place. I just don't get why people would even bother list
logging; it defeats the whole purpose, in my view.

I'm a list lager, myself. If I drink too much beer, I tend to tilt to
one side.

I sure there are plenty of methods you can use to figure it out such as
noting when a suspect station is broadcasting on more than one
frequency. This is where having more than one radio really comes in
handy. Looking up the programming content on the Internet would be
another. Drinking coffee instead of beer would be another.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California