"llortamai" wrote in message ...
http://www.drudgereport.com/


Drudge Report... There's a reliable source!

Next he'll be reporting the 9/11 Report was a forgery because it was
published by W.W. Norton.


Conservatives hate Americans.

BC,

General Say's '60 Minutes' Mislead Him and Documents are Fake [.]

As Reported by the Washington Post

"Major General Bobby Hodges

One of the main sources for the 60 Minutes report was Major
General Bobby W. Hodges, Lt. Col. Killian's superior. According
to the Washington Post, a senior CBS official called Hodges CBS's
"trump card."

However, according to a September 12 Washington Post story, Hodges
said he was "misled" by CBS and now believes the documents are
forgeries. "Now that I have had a chance to see them, I think
they are fake," Hodges told the Post.

Not surprisingly, Dan Rather didn't mention his trump card in his
report. However, Hodges is mentioned indirectly; he is one of the
"solid sources" upon which Rather relied for the original 60 Minutes
report."

SOURCE= http://www.intellectualconservative....ticle3784.html


+ New Doubt Cast on Guard Documents
Military Official now says CBS Records are Fake
- by Michael Rezendes and Walter V. Robinson, Globe Staff
- John 'ff' Kerry's home town newspaper the Boston Globe
- (The Boston Globe is 'owned-by' the New York Times)
- 12 SEPT 2004
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/12/new_doubt_cast_on_guard_documents/


* Bush Papers Phony, says National Guard Official who had worked with
CBS
- by Ralph Blumenthal and Jim Rutenberg, New York Times
- September 12, 2004
- Minneapolis Star Tribune
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4976522.html


+ More Doubt Cast on Memos used in '60 Minutes' Report
- by Ralph Blumenthal, Jim Rutenberg, New York Times
- SF Chronical
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/09/12/MNG2S8NPHV1.DTL


So What's the Frequency {Now} Dan ?

Just the Facts ~ RHF
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"llortamai" wrote in message ...
http://www.drudgereport.com/


Drudge Report... There's a reliable source!

Yes it is for the most part.

..

Regarding the charge that the fonts prove the documents are fake:

BZZZZT! Try again. The White House distributed the memos ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5952048/

.... and didn't question their authenticity is well taken. As for the font not
being available in the 70s, the claim is that proportional fonts were not
available until the seventies.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....%5Carchive%5C2
00409%5CPOL20040909d.html

In fact, they've been around since the forties.

http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1941.html

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!


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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment.
SMELL the
desperation!


My sense of smell isn't that good. Aren't you in Kentucky someplace?

In article ,
ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote:

Snip

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!

Smells just like Cheetos. Maybe if you wash your hands the smell will go
away.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote:

Snip

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!


Smells just like Cheetos. Maybe if you wash your hands the smell will go
away.

Either that or use toilet paper instead of you finger when you wipe.

Michael Bryant blathered again and wrote:


In fact, they've been around since the forties.

You want to name the typewriters that had proportional fonts in the fories?

http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1941.html

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!

That's what we smell when we smell you, or maybe it just plain BO.

Michael Bryant wrote:

Regarding the charge that the fonts prove the documents are fake:

BZZZZT! Try again. The White House distributed the memos ...


The White House got them from CBS.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5952048/

... and didn't question their authenticity is well taken. As for the font not
being available in the 70s, the claim is that proportional fonts were not
available until the seventies.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....%5Carchive%5C2
00409%5CPOL20040909d.html

In fact, they've been around since the forties.


Actually, proportional fonts were available in the 30's - but they
weren't common. But the documents in question aren't just proportional,
they're kerned, and they have superscripts with fractional height
letters. That's not a typewriter or vintage word processor. It's
typeset.

Someone said he keyed in one of the documents in Microsoft Word, printed
it out, scanned it in as a graphic and superimposed it on top of the
same document from CBS, and they lined up exactly. Horizontally and
vertically.

This means the default Microsoft Word kerning and line spacing rules
with the default font are identical to the ones used to prepare the
document. For every letter pair, in every line. That's incredible.

But an easy way to get a very strong indication of the validity of the
documents is to get other memos from the same guy that are known to be
real, from the same time frame, and see what they look like.

My guess is they'll look pretty crude compared to the questioned
documents.




http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1941.html

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!


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MSH,

FWIW: In the news today the guy's wife is claiming that the
Bush Military Records ?documents? that are attributed to her
dead husband appear to be "FAKES".

* His widow, Marjorie Connell, told ABC News Radio:
"The wording in these documents is very suspect to me.
I just can't believe these are his words."

* "Col Killian's son, Gary Killian, who also served in the
National Guard, said he doubted his father would have written
an unsigned memo which said there was pressure to "sugar coat"
Mr Bush's performance review.

* Rufus Martin, the personnel chief in Col Killian's unit at
the time also said he believed the documents are fake.
"They looked to me like forgeries. I don't think Killian would
do that, and I knew him for 17 years," he said.

* Independent document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines said the
memos appeared to have been written on a computer with Microsoft
Word software.

* Ms Lines, a document expert and fellow of the American Academy
of Forensic Sciences, highlighted a small superscript "th" in
the words "111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron". She said such an
effect was created automatically with Microsoft Word. "I'm
virtually certain these were computer generated," she said.

* Bill Flynn, one of US's top authorities on document
authentication, added: "These documents do not appear to have
been the result of technology that was available in 1972 and 1973."

Source: The Scotsman . Com (UK)
"Bush Vietnam Service Records May Be Fake"
- by Mark Sage, PA News, in New York
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3480214
- http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...p-198189c.html
- http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...litics/2787324
- http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...9629371.htm?1c
- http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/top...254080625.html
- http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...0052-8114r.htm


It Must Be True ! - It's in the New York Times (NYT) via the AP
* Authenticity of Bush Memos Scrutinized
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Questions.html
* Son of Late Officer Questions Bush Memos
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...ush-Memos.html


DRUDGE REPORT: CBS NEWS executives have launched an internal
investigation into whether its premiere news program 60 MINUTES
aired fabricated documents relating to Bush National Guard service,
the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Source= http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Rea...e.asp?ID=15036
"It's the end of the line, I think, for Dan Rather and 60 Minutes."


So... What's the Frequency Dan ?
{ Id' Rather Not say :-}


Just the Facts ~ RHF
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Michael Bryant wrote:

Regarding the charge that the fonts prove the documents are fake:

BZZZZT! Try again. The White House distributed the memos ...


The White House got them from CBS.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5952048/

... and didn't question their authenticity is well taken. As for the font not
being available in the 70s, the claim is that proportional fonts were not
available until the seventies.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....%5Carchive%5C2
00409%5CPOL20040909d.html

In fact, they've been around since the forties.


Actually, proportional fonts were available in the 30's - but they
weren't common. But the documents in question aren't just proportional,
they're kerned, and they have superscripts with fractional height
letters. That's not a typewriter or vintage word processor. It's
typeset.

Someone said he keyed in one of the documents in Microsoft Word, printed
it out, scanned it in as a graphic and superimposed it on top of the
same document from CBS, and they lined up exactly. Horizontally and
vertically.

This means the default Microsoft Word kerning and line spacing rules
with the default font are identical to the ones used to prepare the
document. For every letter pair, in every line. That's incredible.

But an easy way to get a very strong indication of the validity of the
documents is to get other memos from the same guy that are known to be
real, from the same time frame, and see what they look like.

My guess is they'll look pretty crude compared to the questioned
documents.




http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1941.html

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!


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Michael Bryant wrote:

Regarding the charge that the fonts prove the documents are fake:

BZZZZT! Try again. The White House distributed the memos ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5952048/

... and didn't question their authenticity is well taken. As for the font not
being available in the 70s, the claim is that proportional fonts were not
available until the seventies.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....%5Carchive%5C2
00409%5CPOL20040909d.html

In fact, they've been around since the forties.

http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1941.html

A web of unashamed lies is unraveling at a very opportune moment. SMELL the
desperation!

I sure can, and liberal democrats sure do stink. Take a bath, Fat Boy.

Your colleagues at Louisville Technical Institute would appreciate it.

dxAce



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