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DS,
You are smart than this. With the 'right' Computer and Software any "IMAGE" (Text Document) can be created for under $5K. In the "Old Document" 're-manufacturing' business there are Devise Emulator Programs that will give you IBM Selectric Composer, an old Soviet Military Typewriter, or what ever is needed to create the proper image. The 'use' of a "Photo Copy" of a ?document? is the easiest way of MASKING the mechanical impressions left by (or not left by) a Typewriter; the type of Paper-Stock & Water-Marks; and the Inks & Dyes in the 'base' {Fake} Document. NOTE: The Black 'ghost' Image Marks produced by the Photo Copier can act as a Finger Print to Identify the "Actual" Photo-Copier used to make the ?documents? . The QUESTION Becomes "WHO" provided these 'manufactured' ?documents? for 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes needs to 'come clean' with the American People. 60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. 60 Minutes is Stone Walling the Search for the Truth with a so called 'investigation'. Some now call this "DOC-U-GATE". Failing to do so simply means that 60 Minutes is part of this Criminal Conspircy to present these Fake Documents as real. WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} So What's the Frequency {Now} Dan ? Just the Facts in Search of the Truth ~ RHF .. .. = = = "Dwight Stewart" wrote in message = = = hlink.net... "-=jd=-" wrote: Where the misalignment occurs, the tops of the characters seem to be consistent where the bottom is truncated and vice-versa. (snip) Not at all. For example, in the example given, the "ee" in "three months" is clearly raised above the surrounding text (the entire characters, including the tops and bottoms). That is typical of a heavily worn typewriter, not a computer. Stewart .. |
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FO&A,
60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect CBS Anchor Urges Media to Focus On Bush Service - by Howard Kurtz - Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, September 16, 2004; Page A01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep15.html * CBS anchor Dan Rather acknowledged for the first time yesterday that there are serious questions about the authenticity of the documents he used to question President Bush's National Guard record last week on "60 Minutes." * Rather spoke after interviewing the secretary to Bush's former squadron commander, who told him that the memos attributed to her late boss are fake. * The former secretary, Marian Carr Knox, is the latest person to raise questions about the "60 Minutes" story, which Rather and top CBS officials still defend while vowing to investigate mounting questions about whether the 30-year-old documents used in the story were part of a hoax. In her interview with Rather yesterday, Knox repeated her contention that the documents used by "60 Minutes" were bogus. Knox, 86, worked for Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian while he supervised Bush's unit in the early 1970s. I know that I didn't type them," Knox said of the Killian memos. Rather said "I take very seriously her belief that the documents are not authentic." As Rather signed off to rush back into the studio last night, he sounded a defiant note. "I try to look people in the eye and tell them the truth," Rather said. "I don't back up. I don't back down. I don't cave when the pressure gets too great from these partisan political ideological forces." Concerning Marian Carr Knox's Political Leanings. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep14.html Knox, 86, who acknowledged she was not a supporter of the president - calling him "unfit for office" and "selected, not elected" - said the typeface on the documents did not match either of the two typewriters that she used during her time at the guard, a mechanical Olympia and later an IBM Selectric. New Doubts on Bush Military Memos - BBC-WN http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3662668.stm Judge orders Pentagon to find, release all Bush Military Records http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=2311134 The ruling late yesterday out of New York is meant to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press. QUESTION: So WHY has the AP only Targeted Bush's Military Records when John 'ff' Kerry has not signed a release to make poblic his Military Records. ! Looks like Media Bias by the AP ! Just the Facts ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... DS, You are smart than this. With the 'right' Computer and Software any "IMAGE" (Text Document) can be created for under $5K. In the "Old Document" 're-manufacturing' business there are Devise Emulator Programs that will give you IBM Selectric Composer, an old Soviet Military Typewriter, or what ever is needed to create the proper image. The 'use' of a "Photo Copy" of a ?document? is the easiest way of MASKING the mechanical impressions left by (or not left by) a Typewriter; the type of Paper-Stock & Water-Marks; and the Inks & Dyes in the 'base' {Fake} Document. NOTE: The Black 'ghost' Image Marks produced by the Photo Copier can act as a Finger Print to Identify the "Actual" Photo-Copier used to make the ?documents? . The QUESTION Becomes "WHO" provided these 'manufactured' ?documents? for 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes needs to 'come clean' with the American People. 60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. 60 Minutes is Stone Walling the Search for the Truth with a so called 'investigation'. Some now call this "DOC-U-GATE". Failing to do so simply means that 60 Minutes is part of this Criminal Conspircy to present these Fake Documents as real. WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} So What's the Frequency {Now} Dan ? Just the Facts in Search of the Truth ~ RHF . . = = = "Dwight Stewart" wrote in message = = = hlink.net... "-=jd=-" wrote: Where the misalignment occurs, the tops of the characters seem to be consistent where the bottom is truncated and vice-versa. (snip) Not at all. For example, in the example given, the "ee" in "three months" is clearly raised above the surrounding text (the entire characters, including the tops and bottoms). That is typical of a heavily worn typewriter, not a computer. Stewart . |
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CBS Plans New Memos Statement
NEW YORK, 20 SEPT 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml CBS HAS NOT REVEALED WHO PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS OR HOW THEY WERE OBTAINED. WHO IS CBS PROTECTING ? WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} * According to The Washington Post, the network plans to say it was misled about the authenticity of the documents. * The New York Times reports that CBS News officials met Sunday evening with anchor Dan Rather, the reporter of the contested story, to discuss the network's next steps. * The Post and Times report that CBS' latest move comes after Rather met in Texas with Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard official who has been named as a possible source for the documents. * It was not clear if the network planned to apologize, the Post reported. Just the Facts ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, 60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect CBS Anchor Urges Media to Focus On Bush Service - by Howard Kurtz - Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, September 16, 2004; Page A01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep15.html * CBS anchor Dan Rather acknowledged for the first time yesterday that there are serious questions about the authenticity of the documents he used to question President Bush's National Guard record last week on "60 Minutes." * Rather spoke after interviewing the secretary to Bush's former squadron commander, who told him that the memos attributed to her late boss are fake. * The former secretary, Marian Carr Knox, is the latest person to raise questions about the "60 Minutes" story, which Rather and top CBS officials still defend while vowing to investigate mounting questions about whether the 30-year-old documents used in the story were part of a hoax. In her interview with Rather yesterday, Knox repeated her contention that the documents used by "60 Minutes" were bogus. Knox, 86, worked for Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian while he supervised Bush's unit in the early 1970s. I know that I didn't type them," Knox said of the Killian memos. Rather said "I take very seriously her belief that the documents are not authentic." As Rather signed off to rush back into the studio last night, he sounded a defiant note. "I try to look people in the eye and tell them the truth," Rather said. "I don't back up. I don't back down. I don't cave when the pressure gets too great from these partisan political ideological forces." Concerning Marian Carr Knox's Political Leanings. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep14.html Knox, 86, who acknowledged she was not a supporter of the president - calling him "unfit for office" and "selected, not elected" - said the typeface on the documents did not match either of the two typewriters that she used during her time at the guard, a mechanical Olympia and later an IBM Selectric. New Doubts on Bush Military Memos - BBC-WN http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3662668.stm Judge orders Pentagon to find, release all Bush Military Records http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=2311134 The ruling late yesterday out of New York is meant to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press. QUESTION: So WHY has the AP only Targeted Bush's Military Records when John 'ff' Kerry has not signed a release to make poblic his Military Records. ! Looks like Media Bias by the AP ! Just the Facts ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... DS, You are smart than this. With the 'right' Computer and Software any "IMAGE" (Text Document) can be created for under $5K. In the "Old Document" 're-manufacturing' business there are Devise Emulator Programs that will give you IBM Selectric Composer, an old Soviet Military Typewriter, or what ever is needed to create the proper image. The 'use' of a "Photo Copy" of a ?document? is the easiest way of MASKING the mechanical impressions left by (or not left by) a Typewriter; the type of Paper-Stock & Water-Marks; and the Inks & Dyes in the 'base' {Fake} Document. NOTE: The Black 'ghost' Image Marks produced by the Photo Copier can act as a Finger Print to Identify the "Actual" Photo-Copier used to make the ?documents? . The QUESTION Becomes "WHO" provided these 'manufactured' ?documents? for 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes needs to 'come clean' with the American People. 60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. 60 Minutes is Stone Walling the Search for the Truth with a so called 'investigation'. Some now call this "DOC-U-GATE". Failing to do so simply means that 60 Minutes is part of this Criminal Conspircy to present these Fake Documents as real. WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} So What's the Frequency {Now} Dan ? Just the Facts in Search of the Truth ~ RHF . . = = = "Dwight Stewart" wrote in message = = = hlink.net... "-=jd=-" wrote: Where the misalignment occurs, the tops of the characters seem to be consistent where the bottom is truncated and vice-versa. (snip) Not at all. For example, in the example given, the "ee" in "three months" is clearly raised above the surrounding text (the entire characters, including the tops and bottoms). That is typical of a heavily worn typewriter, not a computer. Stewart .. |
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![]() RHF wrote: CBS Plans New Memos Statement NEW YORK, 20 SEPT 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml CBS HAS NOT REVEALED WHO PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS OR HOW THEY WERE OBTAINED. WHO IS CBS PROTECTING ? WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} * According to The Washington Post, the network plans to say it was misled about the authenticity of the documents. * The New York Times reports that CBS News officials met Sunday evening with anchor Dan Rather, the reporter of the contested story, to discuss the network's next steps. * The Post and Times report that CBS' latest move comes after Rather met in Texas with Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard official who has been named as a possible source for the documents. * It was not clear if the network planned to apologize, the Post reported. CBS can't be trusted in any of this, no matter what they say at this point in time. They, and Dan Blather were warned about the documents before they went to air with them. Then they tried a bit of CYA, that didn't work, now they are falling back on this story. dxAce |
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![]() RHF wrote: CBS Plans New Memos Statement NEW YORK, 20 SEPT 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml CBS HAS NOT REVEALED WHO PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS OR HOW THEY WERE OBTAINED. WHO IS CBS PROTECTING ? WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} * According to The Washington Post, the network plans to say it was misled about the authenticity of the documents. * The New York Times reports that CBS News officials met Sunday evening with anchor Dan Rather, the reporter of the contested story, to discuss the network's next steps. * The Post and Times report that CBS' latest move comes after Rather met in Texas with Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard official who has been named as a possible source for the documents. * It was not clear if the network planned to apologize, the Post reported. Burkett apparently gave the documents to CBS. But who gave them to Burkett? Someone in the Kerry Kampaign? Kerry is toast. dxAce |
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In article , dxAce
wrote: RHF wrote: CBS Plans New Memos Statement NEW YORK, 20 SEPT 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml CBS HAS NOT REVEALED WHO PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS OR HOW THEY WERE OBTAINED. WHO IS CBS PROTECTING ? WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} * According to The Washington Post, the network plans to say it was misled about the authenticity of the documents. * The New York Times reports that CBS News officials met Sunday evening with anchor Dan Rather, the reporter of the contested story, to discuss the network's next steps. * The Post and Times report that CBS' latest move comes after Rather met in Texas with Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard official who has been named as a possible source for the documents. * It was not clear if the network planned to apologize, the Post reported. Burkett apparently gave the documents to CBS. But who gave them to Burkett? Someone in the Kerry Kampaign? Kerry is toast. I don't think those document came from the Kerry campaign but there was collusion between Burkett and the Kerry campaign. This will turn out to be a real problem for the Kerry campaign. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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TELAMON,
Think Again, CBS "Arranged" for Meeting with Lockhart {The Kerry Campaign} - by Kevin Johnson, Dave Moniz and Jim Drinkard - USA TODAY http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-20-cbs-documents_x.htm * WASHINGTON — CBS arranged for a confidential source to talk with Joe Lockhart, a top aide to John Kerry, after the source provided the network with the now-disputed documents about President Bush's service in the Texas National Guard. * Lockhart, the former press secretary to President Clinton, said a producer talked to him about the 60 Minutes program a few days before it aired on Sept. 8. She gave Lockhart a telephone number and asked him to call Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard officer who gave CBS the documents. Lockhart couldn't recall the producer's name. But CBS said Monday night that it would examine the role of producer Mary Mapes in passing the name to Lockhart. * Burkett told USA TODAY that he had agreed to turn over the documents to CBS if the network would arrange a conversation with the Kerry campaign. * The network's effort to place Burkett in contact with a top Democratic official raises ethical questions about CBS' handling of material potentially damaging to the Republican president in the midst of an election. * Burkett said Monday that his contact with Lockhart was indeed part of an "understanding" with CBS. Texan has made 'allegations' for Years - by Dave Moniz, Jim Drinkard and Kevin Johnson - USA TODAY http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-21-burkett-side_x.htm * BAIRD, Texas — That Bill Burkett looms at the center of a story about George W. Bush's military service comes as no surprise to his supporters and critics. * Burkett, 55, has been making allegations about Bush's military service for more than six years. * Some top Texas Guard officials call Burkett an embittered former officer who will do anything to embarrass the president and retaliate against senior Texas Guard officers he says treated him shabbily before he left. * Burkett has acknowledged lying to CBS and USA TODAY about where he obtained the questionable documents allegedly written by Bush's Guard commander. * "Bill is no more crazy than you or me or any damn body else," Dennis Adams, a retired lieutenant colonel who worked with Burkett in the Texas Guard in the mid-1990s, said last week. * Burkett's criticisms of Bush have grown more intense in recent months. He compared Bush to Hitler and Napoleon in an online article last year, the Houston Chronicle reported last week. WHY WON'T CBS AND DAN RATHER APOLOGIZE TO THE KILLIAN FAMILY ? WHY WON'T CBS AND DAN RATHER APOLOGIZE TO PRESIDENT BUSH AN HIS FAMILY ? ~ RHF .. .. = = = Telamon wrote in message = = = ... In article , dxAce wrote: RHF wrote: CBS Plans New Memos Statement NEW YORK, 20 SEPT 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml CBS HAS NOT REVEALED WHO PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS OR HOW THEY WERE OBTAINED. WHO IS CBS PROTECTING ? WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} * According to The Washington Post, the network plans to say it was misled about the authenticity of the documents. * The New York Times reports that CBS News officials met Sunday evening with anchor Dan Rather, the reporter of the contested story, to discuss the network's next steps. * The Post and Times report that CBS' latest move comes after Rather met in Texas with Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard official who has been named as a possible source for the documents. * It was not clear if the network planned to apologize, the Post reported. Burkett apparently gave the documents to CBS. But who gave them to Burkett? Someone in the Kerry Kampaign? Kerry is toast. I don't think those document came from the Kerry campaign but there was collusion between Burkett and the Kerry campaign. This will turn out to be a real problem for the Kerry campaign. |
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Dan Rather, Bill Burkett do a Re-Assembled Interview
TWD= http://www.washingtondispatch.com/page2/ - The Washington Dispatch - 19 September 2004 - by CK Rairden * CBS News anchor Dan Rather has interviewed the retired lieutenant colonel widely believed to have helped provide "60 Minutes" with the disputed National Guard documents about President Bush that have created a credibility crisis for the network, and CBS plans to air the interview in the coming days. * The on-camera sit-down with Bill Burkett, who has urged Democratic activists to wage "war" against Republican "dirty tricks," could help resolve whether CBS continues to stand by its story or concedes the purported 30-year-old memos are forgeries, as numerous document experts have contended. * It's difficult to see how this can end in a good way for Dan Rather and CBS, no matter what Burkett coughs up. He's been discredited thoroughly with his own writings as any kind of "source." * Burkett's comments in an August 25th published rant included, "[Mr. Bush] I know from your files that we have now reassembled, {Re-Created - Re-Manufactured} the fact that you did not fulfill your oath, taken when you were commissioned to "obey the orders of the officers appointed over you." just the facts ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... DS, You are smart than this. With the 'right' Computer and Software any "IMAGE" (Text Document) can be created for under $5K. In the "Old Document" 're-manufacturing' business there are Devise Emulator Programs that will give you IBM Selectric Composer, an old Soviet Military Typewriter, or what ever is needed to create the proper image. The 'use' of a "Photo Copy" of a ?document? is the easiest way of MASKING the mechanical impressions left by (or not left by) a Typewriter; the type of Paper-Stock & Water-Marks; and the Inks & Dyes in the 'base' {Fake} Document. NOTE: The Black 'ghost' Image Marks produced by the Photo Copier can act as a Finger Print to Identify the "Actual" Photo-Copier used to make the ?documents? . The QUESTION Becomes "WHO" provided these 'manufactured' ?documents? for 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes needs to 'come clean' with the American People. 60 Minutes needs to Identify the "Source" of the Forged Documents. 60 Minutes is Stone Walling the Search for the Truth with a so called 'investigation'. Some now call this "DOC-U-GATE". Failing to do so simply means that 60 Minutes is part of this Criminal Conspircy to present these Fake Documents as real. WHAT - Did 60 Minutes Know ? {about the Forged Documents} WHEN - Did Dan Rather Know It ? {about these Fake Documents} HOW - Is 60 Minutes 'involvement' in/with these Forged Documents ? WHY - Has 60 Minutes Not Acted to Tell the Truth ? {about these Forged 'Fake' Documents} So What's the Frequency {Now} Dan ? Just the Facts in Search of the Truth ~ RHF . . = = = "Dwight Stewart" wrote in message = = = hlink.net... "-=jd=-" wrote: Where the misalignment occurs, the tops of the characters seem to be consistent where the bottom is truncated and vice-versa. (snip) Not at all. For example, in the example given, the "ee" in "three months" is clearly raised above the surrounding text (the entire characters, including the tops and bottoms). That is typical of a heavily worn typewriter, not a computer. Stewart .. |
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