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October 23rd 04, 01:16 AM
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LDE Long deleayed echoe ???
Quick question here...
I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
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#2
October 23rd 04, 01:23 AM
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Michael wrote: Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being able to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it. dxAce Michigan USA |
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#3
October 23rd 04, 01:30 AM
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being able to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it. No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ??? Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up. Michael dxAce Michigan USA |
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#4
October 23rd 04, 06:20 AM
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There are a couple of guys on 3840 kHz that experience LDE often. I, myself, was experiencing a mild echo where I'd catch the last second or so of my last transmission on one night on 75m. Other signals on the band were frequented with echoes too. It was pretty bizarre. On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:16:25 GMT, "Michael" wrote: Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. |
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#5
October 23rd 04, 07:04 AM
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Michael wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being able to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it. No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ??? Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up. It adds up very well. Simply conditions that would allow the signal to propagate all the way around the earth. It's been reported and noted in the past. dxAce Michigan USA |
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October 23rd 04, 07:48 AM
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Michael wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being able to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it. No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ??? Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up. Not so. The Ace thinks 'CW' means 'non compos mentis'. Some things he did in the seventies STILL reverberate in his brain. A lot of the phenomena are auditory hallucinations. The use of mercury in cartridge primers was quite common in the stone age and NOW we have to deal with these unfortunate victims of heavy metal poisoning. mike |
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#7
October 23rd 04, 09:22 AM
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Michael wrote:
My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. A long-time member of the West Allis RAC told me - in the late 1970s - of a LDE he'd heard some 20 years earlier. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com |
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#8
October 23rd 04, 02:59 PM
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See URL:
http://www.vhfdx.net/lde.html AND http://www.ham-shack.com/history31.html AND http://www.ac6v.com/LDE.htm -- The Anon Keyboard I doubt, therefore I might be "Michael" wrote in message . net... Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
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#9
October 23rd 04, 10:05 PM
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Yes LDE's were previously called the "Luxembourg effect" and were first
noted in the 1930s!!! Rgds Richard, SO5GB "Michael" wrote in message . net... Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
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#10
October 23rd 04, 10:11 PM
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Richard wrote: Yes LDE's were previously called the "Luxembourg effect" and were first noted in the 1930s!!! The 'Luxembourg effect' has nothing whatsoever to do with LDE's. dxAce Michigan USA Rgds Richard, SO5GB "Michael" wrote in message . net... Quick question here... I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk about it on Coast To Coast. I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation condition. My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known observations of this phenomenon. Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
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