It's not possible to defeat those animals and not turn into something
equally repulsive in the process.

There's no way anybody's thinking is going to change without a major
calamatous event that'll wake everybody up and get them focused on the
important stuff again. There is a lot of self-indulgent BS happening
right now, on many levels.

We have bigger problems than Islamist terrorists.

''I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but
the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not
to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education.
This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.''

Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:00:18 -0500, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Very interesting article, but could have been a little more provocative if
you had inserted comments about the quoted patterns that do NOT fit America.
This is mostly misunderstood, because the smart-asses of the world who think
they are liberal minded, have never known liberal anything. We invented
liberal and open minded thinking like the world has never known, not even
before the self-annihilation of the Greek and Roman empires. If the world's
pattern of cyclical self destruction continues, these wise asses from other
nations will NEVER know what the freedoms of thinking and acting liberal was
all about either. It's important! Important in parallel with science and
religions as evidence of what man can do, could do, should do, and most
likely will do, both to himself and his environment. But the world's great
thinkers have never known the formula of "America" to write their thesis on
before, and we defy the predictions of all who attempt to predict our
downfall. We rise to the rescue of the vanquished, meet our economic and
military challengers on the battlefields of industry, science, and warfare,
and emerge triumphant in all cases. No one who emulates us can equal us, and
none who oppose us can defeat us. The last three attempts by the old world
to ruin itself (WW's I, II, and the Cold War) had their defeats delivered
by America. The next time somebody tells Americans we're stupid, we're
arrogant, or we're wrong, ask them when the last time was they were right
about anything. Right now we're summing up who our friends are, and who our
enemies are. If one day those friends turn out to be muslims, or the enemies
turn out to be English - we can deal with that. But it's pretty obvious
right now that the nation of islam in it's present form has got to go, and
this means on a worldwide basis. These things can be fluid, and tolerance
applied where it is earned. But the survival of America is not a negotiable
principle, and all the advice from the rest of the world is measured with
their record of never succeeding at anything. So keep the advice coming,
we're always listening. Forgive us if our experience is that nothing you say
is ever worth ACTING on!

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA

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