I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.



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The Ukrainians undestand Russia much better than we American's do.Russia
is still one of our worst enemies.
cuhulin

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The Ukrainians undestand Russia much better than we American's do.Russia
is still one of our worst enemies.
cuhulin



Damn my killfile is overstuffed! It amazes me how little SW posts
appear outside the filter :P

tommyknocker wrote:

I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.

I always find it interesting when the supporters of the 'loser' claim an election was
rigged.

If John Fraud Kerry would have won you'd be singing praises to the American public, of
the electoral system, etc., etc.

I have no idea what is going on in the Ukraine, but I think to compare the Ukraine to
the USA is a bit much.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:36 am, dxAce posted to
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snip

I have no idea what is going on in the Ukraine, but I think to compare the
Ukraine to the USA is a bit much.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ukraine tried to have a legit election but the incumbent president did rig
it. I've heard reports from observers that stated eye witness accounts of
things like: extra ballot boxes showing up at a polling station (i.e.,
there are more boxes present when counting than were present when voting
was going on), more that 100% of a constituency or poll accounted for in
votes counted, hiding and stealing of ballot boxes. The witness quoted was
a Canadian member of parliament whose name I can't recall.

So no, the US election was not like that. Ukraine used paper ballots and
made X's, no computer machine voting nor hole punching. I don't think there
were any allegations like the 4 years ago issues with Florida in the USA
election, at least none reported that I have heard.

"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.



Are election worked just fine. This is the second time that I've noticed you
hinting that Americans are stupid. So why don't you be fair and tell us just
were your from?
B.H.

Have any of you ever heard the Ukrainian version of the song,Highway To
Hell? I have.Pehaps someone in this room can find a midi/wav with the
lyrics to it.
cuhulin

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...
Have any of you ever heard the Ukrainian version of the song,Highway To
Hell? I have.Pehaps someone in this room can find a midi/wav with the
lyrics to it.
cuhulin


No, I haven't.


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"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.



Are election worked just fine. This is the second time that I've noticed you
hinting that Americans are stupid. So why don't you be fair and tell us just
were your from?
B.H.

Sacramento, California, USA. I live about 4 miles due north of the
California state capitol building. Sacramento County went for Kerry-just
barely. I just can't believe that so many Americans voted for Bush
despite all his failings. Either they're just as stupid and evil as he
is, or there was massive fraud.



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Brian Hill wrote:


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are
filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil
war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.



Are election worked just fine. This is the second time that I've noticed
you
hinting that Americans are stupid. So why don't you be fair and tell us
just
were your from?
B.H.

Sacramento, California, USA. I live about 4 miles due north of the
California state capitol building. Sacramento County went for Kerry-just
barely. I just can't believe that so many Americans voted for Bush
despite all his failings. Either they're just as stupid and evil as he
is, or there was massive fraud.



No fraud was involved. You know it's one thing to hate Bush, I can
understand that but to perpetuate misinformation and conspiracy is stupid. I
grew up north of Sac in Rio Oso / Nicholas area.
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