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![]() -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? --Mike L. |
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![]() Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? BTW, how tall are your supports? HankG |
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![]() HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. I would second the need for a matching transformer, it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend reading the articles by John Bryant at http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info. Ace, do you still sell yours? Just curious. --Mike L. |
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![]() Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. I would second the need for a matching transformer, it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend reading the articles by John Bryant at http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info. Ace, do you still sell yours? Just curious. No, I unfortunately no longer make them for sale. There is however someone who apparently sells something similar on eBay. Quite honestly I don't think I could compete with the price. If I did start making them up again I suppose it might be a similar price, but I'd have to explore another case style. I think I sold about 2-300 of them. It's tedious winding the darn things and I just gave it up. Here are some direct links to the Bryant articles: http://www.dxing.info/equipment/impe...ing_bryant.pdf http://members.aol.com/DXerCapeCod/z_transformers.pdf dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. I would second the need for a matching transformer, it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend reading the articles by John Bryant at http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info. Thanks for pointing out the dx'ing.info site again, I don't go there very often and I see that there is a more recent article there entitled "A Second Look at Fabricating Impedance Transformers for Receiving Antennas" An interesting read as I still use the FT-50-43 toroids and they seem to recommend either the FT-82 or FT-114 in a type 75 mix. dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. I would second the need for a matching transformer, it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend reading the articles by John Bryant at http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info. Thanks for pointing out the dx'ing.info site again, I don't go there very often and I see that there is a more recent article there entitled "A Second Look at Fabricating Impedance Transformers for Receiving Antennas" An interesting read as I still use the FT-50-43 toroids and they seem to recommend either the FT-82 or FT-114 in a type 75 mix. They were testing primarily the low bands for the "second look" paper, so I'd imagine that influenced their decision to go with the J/75. --Mike L. |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... HankG wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... -=jd=- wrote: On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce wrote in message : Michael Lawson wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was curious about your setup. Do you have a buried coax leading to your shack?? Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the receivers. dxAce Michigan USA When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you disconnect outside? The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to listen. I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are worth several times their weight in gold... I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers. You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding? Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable. dxAce Michigan USA Ace: Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? No, no tuner. On that or the 70'. I'm using an untuned, uncoupled, directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency range do you use it for mostly? I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW. Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there any advantage using two longwires of different lengths? Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction. BTW, how tall are your supports? 9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground. dxAce Michigan USA Thanks for a usually comprehensive answer. Are you using 10:1 transformers? HankG |
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