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m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? dxAce Michigan USA |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. That's pretty good, but I don't do MW. This is after all rec.radio.shortwave! R7, R8 and R8B. 216 countries verified on shortwave using the NASWA Country List. What I said about 'ol Vicente is indeed true, he is exporting his problems to the USA. I invite you sir, to prove me wrong on that issue. Illegal immigration is one of the most serious problems we face here in the USA. dxAce Michigan USA |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... What I said about 'ol Vicente is indeed true, he is exporting his problems to the USA. I invite you sir, to prove me wrong on that issue. Emigration is the problem of the Mexican economy. It has been a problem for many decades. As the agrarian policies of the 30's reduce the size of family farms each generation by subdividing already small holdings among children, many rural poor either migrate to big cities or to the US. Mexico City, 6 million in 1060, is now 23 million, with most of the growth due to internal migration from the farms of rural Mexico. This is not Fox's problem, it is a problem of a less wealthy nation on the border of a wealthy one. Illegal immigration is one of the most serious problems we face here in the USA. The problem is one of enforcing our existent laws and controlling our borders. Right now, lax enforcement is like a big "welcome" sign. It is our fault, not that of Mexico. |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... What I said about 'ol Vicente is indeed true, he is exporting his problems to the USA. I invite you sir, to prove me wrong on that issue. Emigration is the problem of the Mexican economy. It has been a problem for many decades. As the agrarian policies of the 30's reduce the size of family farms each generation by subdividing already small holdings among children, many rural poor either migrate to big cities or to the US. Mexico City, 6 million in 1060, is now 23 million, with most of the growth due to internal migration from the farms of rural Mexico. This is not Fox's problem, it is a problem of a less wealthy nation on the border of a wealthy one. Illegal immigration is one of the most serious problems we face here in the USA. The problem is one of enforcing our existent laws and controlling our borders. Right now, lax enforcement is like a big "welcome" sign. It is our fault, not that of Mexico. I agree with many of your points, however, Vicente Fox is doing absolutely nothing on his side of the border to alleviate any of the problems that plague Mexico, nor is he doing anything to stem the tide of illegals into the USA. Mr. Rickets spoke earlier of riots here in the USA due to 'poorly' conducted elections, my feeling is that the riots will break out due to illegal immigration. The time is coming, and as a Nation, we must all work to stem the tide. The number of illegals here has probably reached the number of unemployed in this country, and it is time to do something about it. I said it before, and I say it again... Vicente Fox is a stinking piece of Mexican ****. I firmly believe that to be true, and you have presented no facts to refute my claim that he is actively engaged in exporting his 'problems' to the USA. Why is that? Because you can't. You know you can't, and I know it too. dxAce Michigan USA |
y'all wouldn't want me to be the prez of U.S.A.I would cut off ALL trade
and communications with Mexico Instantly! till they got their act together.I would Nuke every country on Earth I do not like.I would be the most hated S.O.B.on Earth But I would NOT be selling U.S.A.down the River. cuhulin |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... I agree with many of your points, however, Vicente Fox is doing absolutely nothing on his side of the border to alleviate any of the problems that plague Mexico, nor is he doing anything to stem the tide of illegals into the USA. Mr. Rickets spoke earlier of riots here in the USA due to 'poorly' conducted elections, my feeling is that the riots will break out due to illegal immigration. The time is coming, and as a Nation, we must all work to stem the tide. The number of illegals here has probably reached the number of unemployed in this country, and it is time to do something about it. I said it before, and I say it again... Vicente Fox is a stinking piece of Mexican ****. I firmly believe that to be true, and you have presented no facts to refute my claim that he is actively engaged in exporting his 'problems' to the USA. Why is that? Because you can't. You know you can't, and I know it too. It is not the job of a free country to restrict the exit of its citizens or residents. Restricting migration or emigration produced the Berlin wall. Vicente Fox and the Mexican government have no obligation to prevent emigration, as that would be a restriction of the rights of the citizens of any free nation. It is the responsibility of each nation to decide how to handle those who want to come in, not those that want to leave. For these reasons, I can not produce any facts because there is no requirement that any nation prevent its citizens from leaving. |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... I agree with many of your points, however, Vicente Fox is doing absolutely nothing on his side of the border to alleviate any of the problems that plague Mexico, nor is he doing anything to stem the tide of illegals into the USA. Mr. Rickets spoke earlier of riots here in the USA due to 'poorly' conducted elections, my feeling is that the riots will break out due to illegal immigration. The time is coming, and as a Nation, we must all work to stem the tide. The number of illegals here has probably reached the number of unemployed in this country, and it is time to do something about it. I said it before, and I say it again... Vicente Fox is a stinking piece of Mexican ****. I firmly believe that to be true, and you have presented no facts to refute my claim that he is actively engaged in exporting his 'problems' to the USA. Why is that? Because you can't. You know you can't, and I know it too. It is not the job of a free country to restrict the exit of its citizens or residents. Restricting migration or emigration produced the Berlin wall. Vicente Fox and the Mexican government have no obligation to prevent emigration, as that would be a restriction of the rights of the citizens of any free nation. It is the responsibility of each nation to decide how to handle those who want to come in, not those that want to leave. For these reasons, I can not produce any facts because there is no requirement that any nation prevent its citizens from leaving. LOL, that may indeed be the case, however Vicente Fox, as I've stated already is in the business of exporting his 'problems' to the USA. What we need to do here in the USA is to ensure that Mr. Fox gets his 'problems' back, in one condition or another. Then perhaps, he will attempt to create better conditions in Mexico. It's time to get tough. dxAce Michigan USA |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. How many of those MW countries did you verify from one more or less fixed location? Or were you traveling about? dxAce Michigan USA |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. How many of those MW countries did you verify from one more or less fixed location? Or were you traveling about? All from Cleveland, OH. |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. How many of those MW countries did you verify from one more or less fixed location? Or were you traveling about? All from Cleveland, OH. Well, that's pretty good then. dxAce Michigan USA |
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: dxAce wrote: 'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican **** who wants to export his 'problems' to the USA. dxAce Michigan USA You think all Germans are Nazis and Canadians are retards, too. Does this give you a hint why you are giving Americans a bad name? Grow up, hillbilly...don't be like your President. You just keep toting that portable, 'tard boy, and giving CanaDuh a bad name. LMFAO at the 'tard. Y'all come bac when you get a handle on the DX thing, ya hear? Some of us have a perfect handle on DX, and a more reasonable one on foreign relations DE R8, R-75, tentec350, R390, 76 countries verified on MW. How many of those MW countries did you verify from one more or less fixed location? Or were you traveling about? All from Cleveland, OH. That was a pretty good accomplisment at such a young age. dxAce Michigan USA |
You both have a major perception problems in your descriptions.
There are no national programs (that I know of anyway) that even try to achieve a 100% rational + compassionate approach to the problems the US and world face. Hate and irrationality and downright stupidity come washing in tsunami waves from both sides. Anybody with an objective bone in his thick skull can hear it, day in and day out, relentlessly pouring out of "got mine, now get out" Limbaugh and those Marxist ninnies on Air America. I have not yet heard Al Franken's show, and I generally like his perspective (with some reservations), but the guys on Fox and *some* of the Public Radio guys are just as warped. Commercial radio is flaccid...no worthy perspective at all There is no decent across-the-board reporting on national airwaves these days. A person just has to listen to as much as he can stomach, and try to sort it out himself. Hopefully, the people of the US and world are still intelligent enough to achieve this... Although I doubt that too. Bruce Jensen |
First you call the fine American patriots on Air America ''Marxist
ninnies'' then you admit you have never listened. I challenge you to point out factual inaccuracies on their broadcasts in a manner similar to the mediamatters.org web site and its debunking of the Limbaugh/Fox News daily parade of lies. On 10 Dec 2004 11:57:35 -0800, "bpnjensen" wrote: You both have a major perception problems in your descriptions. There are no national programs (that I know of anyway) that even try to achieve a 100% rational + compassionate approach to the problems the US and world face. Hate and irrationality and downright stupidity come washing in tsunami waves from both sides. Anybody with an objective bone in his thick skull can hear it, day in and day out, relentlessly pouring out of "got mine, now get out" Limbaugh and those Marxist ninnies on Air America. I have not yet heard Al Franken's show, and I generally like his perspective (with some reservations), but the guys on Fox and *some* of the Public Radio guys are just as warped. Commercial radio is flaccid...no worthy perspective at all There is no decent across-the-board reporting on national airwaves these days. A person just has to listen to as much as he can stomach, and try to sort it out himself. Hopefully, the people of the US and world are still intelligent enough to achieve this... Although I doubt that too. Bruce Jensen |
David Eduardo wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message (And one other silly question - are the Mexican signals still required to air "The Mexican National Hour" on Sunday nights? I thought I heard this went away recently, perhaps coinciding with the new presidential administration south of the border.) Yes. They are. And up to 4 minutes per hour of government PSAs, too. Also, doesn't the President of Mexico have the right to pre-empt all local programming for a speech? (I heard that happen once or twice on 690....) I think they're also *required* to play the national anthem at midnight.... |
Rich Wood wrote:
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 00:00:18 -0500, Mike wrote: formality. Mexicans stations are treated as what they are, Mexican stations that music comply with Mexican boradcast law and all other aspects of the Mexican legal system. I programmed XTRA for 5 years. The US contingent was committed to following both the Mexican as well as FCC regulations. I actually had Norman Vincent Peale use an obscenity when I told him we couldn't air his show that had been sold by our US sales reps. No religion allowed. No alcohol. Far more stringent than the US. Do they still allow cussing (at least in English, don't know about in Spanish) on Mexican stations? (I recall XETRA-FM getting away with a few f-bombs in the 80's....) |
"Charles Hobbs" wrote in message ... Rich Wood wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 00:00:18 -0500, Mike wrote: formality. Mexicans stations are treated as what they are, Mexican stations that music comply with Mexican boradcast law and all other aspects of the Mexican legal system. I programmed XTRA for 5 years. The US contingent was committed to following both the Mexican as well as FCC regulations. I actually had Norman Vincent Peale use an obscenity when I told him we couldn't air his show that had been sold by our US sales reps. No religion allowed. No alcohol. Far more stringent than the US. Do they still allow cussing (at least in English, don't know about in Spanish) on Mexican stations? (I recall XETRA-FM getting away with a few f-bombs in the 80's....) Mexico is much stricter than the US, but English content seems not to be monitored and only comes to the SCT's attention if someone reports it. |
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:11:57 GMT, Charles Hobbs
wrote: Also, doesn't the President of Mexico have the right to pre-empt all local programming for a speech? (I heard that happen once or twice on 690....) When I was at XTRA that was true. It probably still is. I had interaction with the President at the time and liked him, but couldn't imagine anyone, except Castro, speaking for hours at a time. The deafening roar of dials being changed was one of my most painful experiences. I think they're also *required* to play the national anthem at midnight.... I don't recall that. Rich |
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:19:13 GMT, Charles Hobbs
wrote: Do they still allow cussing (at least in English, don't know about in Spanish) on Mexican stations? (I recall XETRA-FM getting away with a few f-bombs in the 80's....) Is it considered cussing if the words don't exist in the country's official language? Under Noble, that would have been forbidden because we followed both country's regulations. Things happen. Wardrobes malfunction. I suspect most stations have had various slips of the tongue the delay didn't catch. At WOR we had a food fair called "The Taste of New York" held at Lincoln Center. We decided to do the Joan Rivers Show live. Various restaurants set up booths with samples and it cost $10 to get in. Joan began the show with a comment about how great it was to get free food. A woman in the audience piped up and said they paid for it. Joan's response: "You paid $10 to eat this sh*t?" It was so close to the open of the show the delay hadn't built up and it went on both WOR and the network. Joan had a chat with management the next day. Fortunately there were so many people there making so much noise, the vendors never heard it. The food was terrific. Rich |
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Charles Hobbs typed: I think they're also *required* to play the national anthem at midnight.... . Yup, nightly from midnight to 12:40am ;-) |
"David" wrote in message ... First you call the fine American patriots on Air America ''Marxist ninnies'' then you admit you have never listened. I challenge you to point out factual inaccuracies on their broadcasts in a manner similar to the mediamatters.org web site and its debunking of the Limbaugh/Fox News daily parade of lies. Come on now, Mediamatters? This is a blatently liberal leaning site. Typical kool-aid drinker. Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media. Conservative misinformation is defined as news or commentary presented in the media that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda. |
Rich Wood wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:19:13 GMT, Charles Hobbs wrote: Do they still allow cussing (at least in English, don't know about in Spanish) on Mexican stations? (I recall XETRA-FM getting away with a few f-bombs in the 80's....) Is it considered cussing if the words don't exist in the country's official language? Under Noble, that would have been forbidden because we followed both country's regulations. Things happen. Wardrobes malfunction. I suspect most stations have had various slips of the tongue the delay didn't catch. Come to think of it, this might have not been XETRA-FM, but another English language FM out of Tijuana....one night, they played Steely Dan's "Show Biz Kids", uncensored. http://www.lyricsdepot.com/steely-da...-biz-kids.html |
Your venom is clouding your ability to read.
I asked you to use their style and or format to support your accusations. I did not ask you to adopt their ideology, did I? On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:27:59 -0600, "MnMikew" wrote: "David" wrote in message .. . First you call the fine American patriots on Air America ''Marxist ninnies'' then you admit you have never listened. I challenge you to point out factual inaccuracies on their broadcasts in a manner similar to the mediamatters.org web site and its debunking of the Limbaugh/Fox News daily parade of lies. Come on now, Mediamatters? This is a blatently liberal leaning site. Typical kool-aid drinker. Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media. Conservative misinformation is defined as news or commentary presented in the media that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda. |
"David" wrote in message ... Your venom is clouding your ability to read. I asked you to use their style and or format to support your accusations. I did not ask you to adopt their ideology, did I? http://www.mediaresearch.org/ |
I've listened to some Air America programs (limited, admittedly),
hoping for a demonstrably solid front to to counteract the blatant follishnes sof the Limbaughs out there. I tend to the left of center, but I am not truly a "leftie" on average...I want to hear some common sense and rational approaches to problems that this nation faces that the conservative cuckoobirds cannot even begin to fathom in their jingoism. After reading some of Al Franken and simply seeing the pathetic showing of the Right's arguably elected leader, I was hoping AA would get to it. I was disappointed, that's all. They're too far left to be believable, even when they are correct. Their socialistic tendencies cloud the issues. They even advertised themselves as being "red" (in the communist sense) for God's sake - who is going to buy that? If you want to bring a nation together in a state of rationality, you don't find ways to tear it farther apart, even when you tell the hard truth - the Americans obviously don't really want to hear it, or else cannot fathom it because it is beyond them. You offer simple realistic solutions that appeal to the middle-class, sometimes compassionate, sometimes tough, but always smart and sober, that middle America can get into. *Nobody* is doing that. I haven't listened to any of those guys on either side for awhile out of disgust - maybe it has changed, I don't know. I do know that something needs to close the rift in the USA, and crackpot radio isn't going to do it. Bruce Jensen |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com... I haven't listened to any of those guys on either side for awhile out of disgust - maybe it has changed, I don't know. I do know that something needs to close the rift in the USA, and crackpot radio isn't going to do it. You need to start listening to stations to the left of 92.0 FM if you expect to hear factual discussions of issues. Commercial radio, as long as they have zero obligation to broadcast in the public interest anymore, will never do any programs that they don't feel will sell regardless of how important the issues are to their community or how well documented the content. -- McWebber No email replies read If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends please forget that I'm your friend. |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message oups.com... I've listened to some Air America programs (limited, admittedly), hoping for a demonstrably solid front to to counteract the blatant follishnes sof the Limbaughs out there. I tend to the left of center, but I am not truly a "leftie" on average...I want to hear some common sense and rational approaches to problems that this nation faces that the conservative cuckoobirds cannot even begin to fathom in their jingoism. After reading some of Al Franken and simply seeing the pathetic showing of the Right's arguably elected leader, I was hoping AA would get to it. I was disappointed, that's all. They're too far left to be believable, even when they are correct. Their socialistic tendencies cloud the issues. Have you ever lived in a socialist country? Have you ever spent time in one? There is no similarity between AA and a socialist regime. |
my, My. MY !
The Ultra-Liberal " E L I T I S T " {The Political Cadre "NEO-DEMS" of the Democrat Party of the USA} are sure lining up and showing their "True Colors" God [Allah] Bless America ! - Land of the Free . . . - Free from Fascist {Democrat} ELITIST ! - Free from Communists {Democrat} ELITISTS ! - Free from One World Socialist {Democrat} ELITISTS ! - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ RHF .. .. |
On 14 Dec 2004 15:14:03 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote: I haven't listened to any of those guys on either side for awhile out of disgust - maybe it has changed, I don't know. I do know that something needs to close the rift in the USA, and crackpot radio isn't going to do it. Crackpot radio isn't going to have any effect at all. Radio is not where people form their political or social opinions. At his highest point, Talk Radio's most listened to personality had a 4 rating (percentage of population). Simple aritmetic tells us that 96% of the population was doing something else. Most of that 4% were listening because he used to be funny or to reinforce what they already believed. I really wish Talk Radio had that kind of influence. I simply doesn't. The only influence it's had on you is to make you turn it off. It's intended at entertainment. If you make your voting decisions by listening to Sean Hannity, you'd probably be willing to allow a proctologist to perform brain surgery on you. A proctologist would be the only practitioner able to locate your brain. If it had no effect on you, I wouldn't worry about the efffect it has on others. Rich |
Try to focus. That site says nothing about Air America lying.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:41:20 -0600, "MnMikew" wrote: "David" wrote in message .. . Your venom is clouding your ability to read. I asked you to use their style and or format to support your accusations. I did not ask you to adopt their ideology, did I? http://www.mediaresearch.org/ |
David wrote: Try to focus. That site says nothing about Air America lying. That site says nothing about you being a 'tard boy either, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. Now go tote that Sirius portable and leave the shortwave to the big boys. dxAce Michigan USA |
Right Wing Radio is a very important piece of the Republican Noise
Machine. They use it to program automatons and Zombies who then dominate the days water cooler conversations. I just think it's creepy the way the same talking points make the rounds and get repeated all day long. I find Air America relies more on actual facts and humor than the Wingers, who tend to work fear and half-truths to anger people. I'd rather laugh than be ****ed-off all the time. We will bury you. Eat the rich (they're well marbled). On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:46:04 -0500, Rich Wood wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 15:14:03 -0800, "bpnjensen" wrote: I haven't listened to any of those guys on either side for awhile out of disgust - maybe it has changed, I don't know. I do know that something needs to close the rift in the USA, and crackpot radio isn't going to do it. Crackpot radio isn't going to have any effect at all. Radio is not where people form their political or social opinions. At his highest point, Talk Radio's most listened to personality had a 4 rating (percentage of population). Simple aritmetic tells us that 96% of the population was doing something else. Most of that 4% were listening because he used to be funny or to reinforce what they already believed. I really wish Talk Radio had that kind of influence. I simply doesn't. The only influence it's had on you is to make you turn it off. It's intended at entertainment. If you make your voting decisions by listening to Sean Hannity, you'd probably be willing to allow a proctologist to perform brain surgery on you. A proctologist would be the only practitioner able to locate your brain. If it had no effect on you, I wouldn't worry about the efffect it has on others. Rich |
I find it most amusing that Bozell goes on Fox News to condemn smut as
Rupert Murdoch is the biggest distributor of pornography in the USA. On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:31:55 -0000, Tom Betz wrote: David wrote in : Try to focus. That site says nothing about Air America lying. In fact, Brent Bozell has a long history of lying himself. |
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