Fascism has always been around, just inches below the surface. We are
primed and the next perceived crisis may well be the one where the
brainwashed masses give up on a free society in favor of one where a
benevolent father figure apparently protects them from all demons real
and (mostly) imagined.

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

Study your history. Start he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

On 7 Dec 2004 11:50:55 -0800, "Bruce Jensen"
wrote:

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen

"David" wrote in message
...

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

So Fox is more sensational than say CBS or NBC? You have to be kidding! Have
you been under a rock for the last year? What do you think these outlets
feed YOU? Of course you rubes take it hook, line and sinker.

All TV News sucks.

If you think one is good and another is bad that just shows how
brainwashed you are. They're all chock full of ankle deep coverage of
complex issues, jingoism and dizzying spin.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:06:35 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

So Fox is more sensational than say CBS or NBC? You have to be kidding! Have
you been under a rock for the last year? What do you think these outlets
feed YOU? Of course you rubes take it hook, line and sinker.

You're a paranoid guy.

By the way, Fox isn't nearly as embraced as you'd think. Many watch it
- I do on occasion - but I can tell that you every person on that
network would collapse under a challenge from an intelligent objective
reviewer (including Hannity, O'Reilly, and all the rest), and I would
bet that many who watch understand the same thing. not only that, but
they still only capture a few percent of the viewing public, a smaller
percent of the overall population.

One thing that is obvious is that Bush has not surrounded himself with
people that help him make wise decisions. Every member of his cabinet
at one time or another has opened his/her mouth and said something
utterly kooky. Most recently, Tommy Thompson, the ex-cabinet member,
opined that he couldn't believe that terrorists have not yet attacked
our food supply, with so much of our food coming from the Mid-East.
This comment is nutty on so many levels that one wonders how he ever
got into politics (or out of elementary school).

Bush is the Warren G. Harding of the 21st century. Neither is a
Fascist, despite the the later president's incredible mode of
operation. The only difference is that Bush is healthier...although we
understand he used to be an alkie too.

Bruce Jensen

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen

On 7 Dec 2004 11:51:39 -0800, "Bruce Jensen"
wrote:

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen

Well said Bruce!

Howard wrote:

Well said Bruce!

Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death camps
would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.





mike

"m II" wrote in message
news:nLvtd.209$U47.193@clgrps12...
Howard wrote:

Well said Bruce!

Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death
camps
would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.

Cite??

--Mike L.

In addition to what everyone else has said about reliability of this
information, I will say that I remember the episode, and I also
remember that the idea was flatly trounced by anyone with a brain. It
was withdrawn, quickly, and not raised again that I know of.

This does not sound like a Nazi nation to me. I am certain that the
people of the US on average are strong enough to see through this kind
of nonsense at a glance. We love freedom, and we love that our
Constitution takes pains to guarantee it. It takes a pretty big
problem to wants to restrict those freedoms, and an offhanded
suggestion of excessive internal security isn't going to make the big
time.

Bruce Jensen

Godwin!!

Ace wins.

--Mike L.

"David" wrote in message
...
Leave it to you to side with Hitler...

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:17:10 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

[ idiotic BS snipped yet again]

Talk about tripping... Rickets, you take the cake!

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and
leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA