-=jd=- wrote:

Hey! It was a sincere, knowing-nod! I had the raised-eyebrows,
pursed-lips - the whole contemplative-ponderment thing
going...


Oh...I see..well..cough...cough..that's ok then. We can't have our
greatest investigative reporter being slighted on the merest of whims,
can we now?

His troubling episode with sinister forces in the moonlit desert
notwithstanding, of course. He's still healing from the ordeal.





mike

All TV News sucks.

If you think one is good and another is bad that just shows how
brainwashed you are. They're all chock full of ankle deep coverage of
complex issues, jingoism and dizzying spin.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:06:35 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

So Fox is more sensational than say CBS or NBC? You have to be kidding! Have
you been under a rock for the last year? What do you think these outlets
feed YOU? Of course you rubes take it hook, line and sinker.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:59:02 -0500, dxAce wrote:

The Arabs no doubt see the situation as a threat from both sides. The
paranoia builds. The genius Bush then comes out with his 'Crusade'
blunder and makes things even worse.

Most of the world no doubt sees the Missile defense shield as a means
of preventing revenge attacks after the US goes on a conquest binge
under the guise of pre-emptive, before the fact obliteration of
another dozen countries. Scary? Sure, but plausible.

The first country the USA ever attacked was Libya. We've been ****ing
with the Moslems ever since. Their wariness is warranted. Bin Laden
has a list. The toughest thing on it is for us to deal fairly with
Israel and Palestine and to not take sides in that struggle. Seems
doable.

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

The whole shock value and (apparent) satisfaction of
saying "Death Camps" relys on the fact that like most
maximum security prisons in the US, the prison at
Guantanamo will have an execution chamber. Why we
haven't heard "the US has DEATH CAMPS all over it's
landscape!!" for the past 25 years or so probably has
everything to do with the current administrations' policies,
and not any real desire for change.

Therefore, shouting about this now when nothing has
really changed is the equivalent of the Howler Monkey
Syndrome. Just like the other thread; if you really wish
Americans dead or think they are stinking piles of crap,
why not do more than just hurl feces at Americans??
If we're really all degenerates who are a threat and
abomination to the world, why are you sitting at home
conversing with us??

--Mike L.


"m II" wrote in message
news:qQOtd.5815$U47.3211@clgrps12...
Michael Lawson wrote:
Only one from a reputable news source in the top three
pages. "US" also means "us", and there are enough
references to Nuremburg in the top results as well.

Saying that "because you can search it and something
comes up in google must mean that there's something
there" isn't good enough. I can type in "cincinnati
bengals super bowl winners" and get results, but that
doesn't mean that the men in orange and black have won
a Super Bowl.


It's easy enough to look deeper. I can understand why you wouldn't
want to, because then your conscience might bother you. Your
government has been hijacked by the most vile monsters known to
mankind...those that kill and torture for profit.


======================================
Camp Delta death chamber plan

Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay

Some detainees may be executed if convicted at military trials
A court and execution chamber could be built at the US detention
camp
in Cuba under plans being drawn up by military officials.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2979076.stm




=======================================
US plans death camp
26may03

THE US has floated plans to turn Guantanamo Bay into a death camp,
with its own death row and execution chamber. Prisoners would be
tried, convicted and executed without leaving its boundaries,
without
a jury and without right of appeal, The Mail on Sunday newspaper
reported yesterday.

The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in
charge of 680 suspects from 43 countries, including two Australians.
The suspects have been held at Camp Delta on Cuba without charge for
18 months.

General Miller said building a death row was one plan. Another was
to
have a permanent jail, with possibly an execution chamber.


http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makingl...es/002651.html

=========================================

Although the death camp is "seen as logical by the US," according to
the Herald Sun, international human rights activists are infuriated.
"This camp was created to execute people," said Jonathan Turley, an
American law professor who has led civil rights protests against
Guantanamo Bay military tribunals. "The administration has no
interest
in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core
terrorists."



http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_...s/10572-1.html

You're a paranoid guy.

By the way, Fox isn't nearly as embraced as you'd think. Many watch it
- I do on occasion - but I can tell that you every person on that
network would collapse under a challenge from an intelligent objective
reviewer (including Hannity, O'Reilly, and all the rest), and I would
bet that many who watch understand the same thing. not only that, but
they still only capture a few percent of the viewing public, a smaller
percent of the overall population.

One thing that is obvious is that Bush has not surrounded himself with
people that help him make wise decisions. Every member of his cabinet
at one time or another has opened his/her mouth and said something
utterly kooky. Most recently, Tommy Thompson, the ex-cabinet member,
opined that he couldn't believe that terrorists have not yet attacked
our food supply, with so much of our food coming from the Mid-East.
This comment is nutty on so many levels that one wonders how he ever
got into politics (or out of elementary school).

Bush is the Warren G. Harding of the 21st century. Neither is a
Fascist, despite the the later president's incredible mode of
operation. The only difference is that Bush is healthier...although we
understand he used to be an alkie too.

Bruce Jensen

In addition to what everyone else has said about reliability of this
information, I will say that I remember the episode, and I also
remember that the idea was flatly trounced by anyone with a brain. It
was withdrawn, quickly, and not raised again that I know of.

This does not sound like a Nazi nation to me. I am certain that the
people of the US on average are strong enough to see through this kind
of nonsense at a glance. We love freedom, and we love that our
Constitution takes pains to guarantee it. It takes a pretty big
problem to wants to restrict those freedoms, and an offhanded
suggestion of excessive internal security isn't going to make the big
time.

Bruce Jensen

Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

(snipped)


If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.




mike

m II wrote:

Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

(snipped)

If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.

Versus never able to be proud CanaDuh?

Now go pay allegience to your colonial masters, 'tard boy.

I hear the bonny prince is casting about for a new boyfriend.

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


Michael Lawson wrote:


So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

(snipped)

If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.


Versus never able to be proud CanaDuh?

Now go pay allegience to your colonial masters, 'tard boy.

I hear the bonny prince is casting about for a new boyfriend.

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



You've got nothing to be proud of. The US Federal Reserve banking
system is run out of England. Didn't know that, did you Maroon?. You
can't even run your own banking system. What a joke.

I once read somewhere that the States were given independence, but
that there was to be a yearly payment, in perpetuity, to England as a
form of rental fees. That rental is still being made today.

YOU may look that up. I don't know if you CAN look it up, however.

Why don't you just show us all the cite on that one 'tard boy. Ask mommy first
if you can spend more time on her computer though.

LMAO more and more every day at CanaDuh.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

What, you've never heard of military tribunals for
military personnel?

My question stands, because the two are different
types. A member of the US military convicted of a
capital crime can be sentenced to death. Quite different
than executing prisoners of war or mass murder.

Does that make Nuremberg a "Death Camp"?? Hardly.
But the inference is there, because people were executed
there, that I because I think that the trials at Nuremberg
were justified as were the outcome, that I must be one
sick puppy. Or that because I feel that a guy by the
name of Dahmer should have been executed, I am a sick
puppy.

--Mike L.


"m II" wrote in message
news:914ud.3745$eb3.2812@clgrps13...
Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

(snipped)


If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the
VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one
sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's
invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.




mike