RFI problem solved!
 

Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions. 73,
and now for some good dx.

-Brian

"Brian" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions. 73,
and now for some good dx.

-Brian

Humm, I wonder if that's my problem as well.

Brian wrote:

Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions. 73,
and now for some good dx.

Ok... so what was the nature of the problem? And what did you do to eliminate
it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

A good question, and I would add specifically, could it be solved
simply turning off the TV, did you have to unplug it, or did you use
RFI filters or chokes?

Bruce Jensen

Most newer TVs use switching power supplies and some generate bad RFI when
just plugged in, they don't need to be switched on. Another source is PC CRT
monitors. Same kind of power supply and same kind of RFI. I have a 17 inch
Cybervision on PC #2 in the basement and it generates enough RFI hash to
render much of the AM broadcast band useless when it's plugged in.


"Brian" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions. 73,
and now for some good dx.

-Brian

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brian wrote:

Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can
you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it
may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions.
73,
and now for some good dx.

Ok... so what was the nature of the problem? And what did you do to
eliminate
it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Well, as to eliminating the problem, I just unplugged the thing. I suppose
I'll just plug it in whenever we want to use it We generally don't watch
much tv and rarely use this particular one anyway. For some reason, it was
causing some buzzing about every 130 or so kHz. I'm not really sure why, but
the tv was kind of an old one, and not a very decent one to start with. This
morning I set the radio on a frequency where the noise was present and
turned the gain up so I could hear the radio as I walked around the house. I
unplugged just about everything in the house, unfortunately I didn't start
with this particular room, and when I pulled the plug on that set the noise
vanished. That's pretty much it.

-Brian

"Brian" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did you have to unplug it instead of simply turning it off?

"Brian" wrote in message
nk.net...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brian wrote:

Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved,
and can
you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even
suggested it
may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's
simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio
as I
haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and
suggestions.
73,
and now for some good dx.

Ok... so what was the nature of the problem? And what did you do
to
eliminate
it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Well, as to eliminating the problem, I just unplugged the thing. I
suppose
I'll just plug it in whenever we want to use it We generally don't
watch
much tv and rarely use this particular one anyway. For some reason,
it was
causing some buzzing about every 130 or so kHz. I'm not really sure
why, but
the tv was kind of an old one, and not a very decent one to start
with. This
morning I set the radio on a frequency where the noise was present
and
turned the gain up so I could hear the radio as I walked around the
house. I
unplugged just about everything in the house, unfortunately I didn't
start
with this particular room, and when I pulled the plug on that set
the noise
vanished. That's pretty much it.

So was it off when it was plugged in?? My problem
only kicks in when the crt gets energized, and chokes
don't help it. (I just wait until the wife goes to bed
to do some serious listening.)

--Mike L.

"Brian" wrote in message
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| Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can you
| believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it may
| be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
| Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
| in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions. 73,
| and now for some good dx.
|
| -Brian

Our large (ish) screen TV wipes out everything from longwave to about
25.200 MHz. I devised a brilliant workaround by installing a powerstrip
behind the TV, to enjoy blessed silence. Other appliances I've known
and hated (for the RFI they generate): Microwaves (even when not
cooking), VCRs (Horrible hash-generators), thermostats, battery chargers,
and almost every PC printer I've ever owned. I think Part 15 should
be better - enforced.

Congratulations, though, on your new - found freedom from the noise beast!

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota


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So was it off when it was plugged in?? My problem
only kicks in when the crt gets energized, and chokes
don't help it. (I just wait until the wife goes to bed
to do some serious listening.)

--Mike L.


Yeah, the tv was off, but just being plugged in was causing the noise. I'm
just glad it turned out to be something that I can unplug and not some huge
issue. I do notice now that when my central heat comes on, it makes a bit of
noise around six mhz, probably because my antenna is just in the vicinity of
the unit. Aside from that all is quiet as it should be.

-Brian

Our large (ish) screen TV wipes out everything from longwave to about
25.200 MHz. I devised a brilliant workaround by installing a powerstrip
behind the TV, to enjoy blessed silence. Other appliances I've known
and hated (for the RFI they generate): Microwaves (even when not
cooking), VCRs (Horrible hash-generators), thermostats, battery chargers,
and almost every PC printer I've ever owned. I think Part 15 should
be better - enforced.

Congratulations, though, on your new - found freedom from the noise beast!

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota


Thanks Steve. This has really made my day. I even had to message my
girlfriend at work to tell her about it, which is kind of dumb because she
doesn't really care, but she's happy if I am. I can't believe that I
overlooked such a simple thing this whole time. Maybe now I can catch some
of that dx Steve L. is hearing. He may suggest otherwise, unless of course
I'm planning on picking up an R8 sometime soon. : ) 73

-Brian

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message


I think Part 15 should be better - enforced.


Yea and the sad part is. Most of these fixes to appliances are cheap to do
when they're being built. A simple cap, bulun, sheilding etc.

--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/

EMAIL-
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I have a Sony Wega 20" in the room adjacent to the computer/radio room. The
interference generated by this tv being turned on (my wife watches it all
the time, unfortunately) is mind boggling, especially on the 41 and 31meter
bands (7 & 9 mhz on my Icom R71A receiver and longwire antenna. What
exactly did you mean when you said you installed a "powerstrip" behind the
tv? The Sony 20" tv is plugged into a hefty surge protector. Plugging into
the wall outlet directly vs into the surge protector outlet strip does not
affect the massive amount of rfi it generates on the aforementioned bands
(wipes them out completely). Any suggestions? Please define what you mean
by "powerstrip behind the tv." Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Dick
Bremerton, WA

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
nk.net...
| Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and can
you
| believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested it
may
| be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's simplicity.
| Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
| in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and suggestions.
73,
| and now for some good dx.
|
| -Brian

Our large (ish) screen TV wipes out everything from longwave to about
25.200 MHz. I devised a brilliant workaround by installing a powerstrip
behind the TV, to enjoy blessed silence. Other appliances I've known
and hated (for the RFI they generate): Microwaves (even when not
cooking), VCRs (Horrible hash-generators), thermostats, battery chargers,
and almost every PC printer I've ever owned. I think Part 15 should
be better - enforced.

Congratulations, though, on your new - found freedom from the noise beast!

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota


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"Jim Leder" wrote in
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Most newer TVs use switching power supplies and some generate bad RFI
when just plugged in, they don't need to be switched on. Another
source is PC CRT monitors. Same kind of power supply and same kind of
RFI. I have a 17 inch Cybervision on PC #2 in the basement and it
generates enough RFI hash to render much of the AM broadcast band
useless when it's plugged in.

You sure that it is the switching power supply and not the high voltage
circuits? I have a Philips 107T5 (17") that gives interference around 1500
khz and not around 700 khz. I am running in 1024x768 at 85 hz, and if I
change to 75 hz, for example, the interference (a high pitched whine)
moves. The radio is about 4 feet from the monitor. Over 10 feet there is
no interference at all.

Brian wrote:

Thanks Steve. This has really made my day. I even had to message my
girlfriend at work to tell her about it, which is kind of dumb because she
doesn't really care, but she's happy if I am.


So....does she have a sister?





mike

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...
|
| "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
|
|
| I think Part 15 should be better - enforced.
|
|
| Yea and the sad part is. Most of these fixes to appliances are cheap to do
| when they're being built. A simple cap, bulun, sheilding etc.

Precisely. A handful of ferrite beads, plus conductive silver spray,
has allowed me to eliminate 95% of the RFI from my immediate
listening environment. I think the electronics manufacturers are
engaged in a race to the bottom, in terms of engineering quality of
their collective product.

One of the bright spots on the RFI horizon was the gift of an LCD
monitor from my brother in law (wedding present) a couple of years
ago. Glass CRTs are fast becoming unavailable, and that is one
"solid-state" trend I heartily support.

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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"Dick and Judy Tarr" wrote in message
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| I have a Sony Wega 20" in the room adjacent to the computer/radio room.
The
| interference generated by this tv being turned on (my wife watches it all
| the time, unfortunately) is mind boggling, especially on the 41 and
31meter
| bands (7 & 9 mhz on my Icom R71A receiver and longwire antenna. What
| exactly did you mean when you said you installed a "powerstrip" behind the
| tv? The Sony 20" tv is plugged into a hefty surge protector. Plugging
into
| the wall outlet directly vs into the surge protector outlet strip does not
| affect the massive amount of rfi it generates on the aforementioned bands
| (wipes them out completely). Any suggestions? Please define what you
mean
| by "powerstrip behind the tv." Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
|
| Dick
| Bremerton, WA

Well, Dick, it's basically an extension - cord - box thingy with an "on/off"
switch.
Sadly, I don't want to climb into the back of the TV because it's still
under warranty.

I can definitely commiserate with you, though, because my experience is very
similar
to yours. I found that building and installing a rotatable coax loop did
wonders to
eliminate the noise, due to the fact that the loop allows me to "null" the
noise. I
was considering getting an MFJ antenna "noise canceller," but after building
the loop,
I decided that would be a waste of time.

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One of the bright spots on the RFI horizon was the gift of an LCD
monitor from my brother in law (wedding present) a couple of years
ago. Glass CRTs are fast becoming unavailable, and that is one
"solid-state" trend I heartily support.


It's a step in the right direction, but I'm going to wait. A few years
ago I bought a small laptop with a ten inch screen. Within a few
months, it had five or six dead pixels.

The computer was still completely usable, but seeing those dead spots
started to really bother me. A CRT will either work or not work, plus
the colour rendition in Corel Draw and Photoshop is still superior to
the LCD. That's important to a lot of people

I like the smaller depth of the LCD screen and the much lower power
consumption, but I'll be waiting for a year or two yet before committing.





mike

"m II" wrote in message
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| Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:
|
| One of the bright spots on the RFI horizon was the gift of an LCD
| monitor from my brother in law (wedding present) a couple of years
| ago. Glass CRTs are fast becoming unavailable, and that is one
| "solid-state" trend I heartily support.
|
|
| It's a step in the right direction, but I'm going to wait. A few years
| ago I bought a small laptop with a ten inch screen. Within a few
| months, it had five or six dead pixels.
|
| The computer was still completely usable, but seeing those dead spots
| started to really bother me. A CRT will either work or not work, plus
| the colour rendition in Corel Draw and Photoshop is still superior to
| the LCD. That's important to a lot of people
|
| I like the smaller depth of the LCD screen and the much lower power
| consumption, but I'll be waiting for a year or two yet before committing.
|
|
|
|
|
| mike

Well, if you're handy, conductive spray paint and ferrite beads can be
enormously
helpful - are you experiencing RFI from the CRT?

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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"m II" wrote in message
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Brian wrote:

Thanks Steve. This has really made my day. I even had to message my
girlfriend at work to tell her about it, which is kind of dumb because
she
doesn't really care, but she's happy if I am.


So....does she have a sister?





mike

Pervert!

m II wrote:

Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One of the bright spots on the RFI horizon was the gift of an LCD
monitor from my brother in law (wedding present) a couple of years
ago. Glass CRTs are fast becoming unavailable, and that is one
"solid-state" trend I heartily support.

It's a step in the right direction, but I'm going to wait. A few years
ago I bought a small laptop with a ten inch screen. Within a few
months, it had five or six dead pixels.

The computer was still completely usable, but seeing those dead spots
started to really bother me. A CRT will either work or not work, plus
the colour rendition in Corel Draw and Photoshop is still superior to
the LCD. That's important to a lot of people

I like the smaller depth of the LCD screen and the much lower power
consumption, but I'll be waiting for a year or two yet before committing.

mike

A CRT can get dead pixels (phosophors) but it's more rare than LCD's.
CRT's usually die a slow death as the cathode emission gets weaker with
age. This makes the screen get dimmmer and less focused.


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Dick and Judy Tarr wrote:

I have a Sony Wega 20" in the room adjacent to the computer/radio room. The
interference generated by this tv being turned on (my wife watches it all
the time, unfortunately) is mind boggling, especially on the 41 and 31meter
bands (7 & 9 mhz on my Icom R71A receiver and longwire antenna. What
exactly did you mean when you said you installed a "powerstrip" behind the
tv? The Sony 20" tv is plugged into a hefty surge protector. Plugging into
the wall outlet directly vs into the surge protector outlet strip does not
affect the massive amount of rfi it generates on the aforementioned bands
(wipes them out completely). Any suggestions? Please define what you mean
by "powerstrip behind the tv." Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Dick
Bremerton, WA

I also have a Wega flat screen (CRT) near my receiver (Drake-R8B). The
television does seem to put out more RFI than the one it replaced, but
it's not a problem because of the antenna system I use. Here's why:

http://www.anarc.org/naswa/badx/ante...e_antenna.html


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:52:28 -0800, "Dick and Judy Tarr"
wrote:

I have a Sony Wega 20" in the room adjacent to the computer/radio room. The
interference generated by this tv being turned on (my wife watches it all
the time, unfortunately) is mind boggling, especially on the 41 and 31meter
bands (7 & 9 mhz on my Icom R71A receiver and longwire antenna. What
exactly did you mean when you said you installed a "powerstrip" behind the
tv? The Sony 20" tv is plugged into a hefty surge protector. Plugging into
the wall outlet directly vs into the surge protector outlet strip does not
affect the massive amount of rfi it generates on the aforementioned bands
(wipes them out completely). Any suggestions? Please define what you mean
by "powerstrip behind the tv." Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Replace the TV with an LCD display. The Horizontal oscillator
operates a literally watts, and that nice saw tooth wave form
generates a very generous supply of harmonics. The problem with most
TV's isn't conductive as much as radiated..

"matt weber" wrote in message

Replace the TV with an LCD display. The Horizontal oscillator
operates a literally watts, and that nice saw tooth wave form
generates a very generous supply of harmonics. The problem with most
TV's isn't conductive as much as radiated..


True, that works but isolating the RF is elementary. Bad building practices
are no excuse for ditching CRTs. I myself like the the resolution and
clarity CRTs can display. Were talking about junk not bad technology.


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/

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Brian Hill wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
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Brian wrote:


Thanks Steve. This has really made my day. I even had to message my
girlfriend at work to tell her about it, which is kind of dumb because

she

doesn't really care, but she's happy if I am.


So....does she have a sister?





mike


Pervert!



Wanting to be introduced to the sister of a SAINT who is happy because
YOU are happy make one a pervert? Having a selfless, caring mate like
that would be a true blessing and one could certainly hope these
traits would be present in a sibling of this paragon of womanly virtues.





mike

Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

Well, if you're handy, conductive spray paint and ferrite beads can be
enormously
helpful - are you experiencing RFI from the CRT?

No interference problems at all. I've been lucky in the computer
components. A TenTec 320 sits about four feet from the right side of
the monitor with NO problems. There is a coax going to the attic and
from there to the end of the house, where a longwire goes to the
garage peak.

Some others haven't been so lucky. I've read of a gentleman who had to
use a much longer serial cable to distance the radio.

I have the coax shield grounded at the connection to the longwire





mike

"m II" wrote in message

Wanting to be introduced to the sister of a SAINT who is happy because
YOU are happy make one a pervert? Having a selfless, caring mate like
that would be a true blessing and one could certainly hope these
traits would be present in a sibling of this paragon of womanly virtues.


mike


It's ok mike. I believe you ;) B.H.

"m II" wrote in message

No interference problems at all. I've been lucky in the computer
components. A TenTec 320 sits about four feet from the right side of
the monitor with NO problems.

mike

I thought Steve said you owned a portable. :0 scratching head

B.H.

Speakng of old tv sets,how come they don't make new tv sets anymore so
we can sit things on top of our new tv sets,the new ones have such weird
shapes to them.For instance,my tv set I bought a few years ago,I can not
sit anything on top of that tv set but my older model tv set I use for
my satellite tv,I can easily sit things on top of that tv set.
cuhulin
(sometimes,I forget which one of my six webtv user names I am using at
the time.Yes,I own a Velocity Micro $1,290.00 ProMagix tower computer I
bought from www.velocitymicro.com earlier this year too)

My computer monitor is a refurbished 22 inch screen NEC Multisync FP
1350 I bought from tigerdirect.com earlier this year but tigerdirect's
quality control SUCKS! When my monitor got here there was a piece of
broken off thumbscrew broken off in the right side of the port where my
fifteen foot computer to computer monitor cable attatches to that port.I
cut a little piece of plywood and cut a little notch in it and I
fiberglassed it by the side of the port and I used a plastic tie to
secure that side of my cable to the 15 pin port.
I didn't feel like packing my monitor up and sending it back to
tigerdirect so I fixed it myself.

......D-Day Larry

I prefer the tried and true CRT's myself.

.......D-Day Larry

Zenith tv sets SUCK! I have always had good luck with RCA tv sets.
cuhulin

Best we can do with them new tv sets nowdays (unless they are going into
a hole somewhere) is nail together two or three boards to use for a flat
top (them old Dick Tracy comic books,Flat Top) to sit our junk on top.
cuhulin

All them new cars look the same too.It used to be many years ago we
could tell the year and make and model of them old cars from a mile
away,, even at night time.
cuhulin

Them new fangled radios nowdays don't look like real radios either.They
look like them toys in them toy bins at the Goodwill thrift stores.
cuhulin

Brian Hill wrote:
"m II" wrote in message


Wanting to be introduced to the sister of a SAINT who is happy because
YOU are happy make one a pervert? Having a selfless, caring mate like
that would be a true blessing and one could certainly hope these
traits would be present in a sibling of this paragon of womanly virtues.


mike



It's ok mike. I believe you ;) B.H.


Thank you Brian. None of the homosexuals down at the 'American
Veterans of Foreign Wars' club do, so this comes as a great reassurance.




mike

m II wrote:

Brian Hill wrote:
"m II" wrote in message


Wanting to be introduced to the sister of a SAINT who is happy because
YOU are happy make one a pervert? Having a selfless, caring mate like
that would be a true blessing and one could certainly hope these
traits would be present in a sibling of this paragon of womanly virtues.


mike



It's ok mike. I believe you ;) B.H.

Thank you Brian. None of the homosexuals down at the 'American
Veterans of Foreign Wars' club do, so this comes as a great reassurance.

Perhaps you might want to start looking for homosexuals in CanaDuh. Seems as
though you seek something 'homegrown' in parts I wish to know nothing about,
'tard boy.

Now go tote one of those portables, and make both The Queen and CanaDuh proud.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

m II wrote:
Brian Hill wrote:

"m II" wrote in message


Wanting to be introduced to the sister of a SAINT who is happy because
YOU are happy make one a pervert? Having a selfless, caring mate like
that would be a true blessing and one could certainly hope these
traits would be present in a sibling of this paragon of womanly virtues.


mike



It's ok mike. I believe you ;) B.H.



Thank you Brian. None of the homosexuals down at the 'American Veterans
of Foreign Wars' club do, so this comes as a great reassurance.



For example, THIS guy wouldn't have believed me.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...dier_sentenced

For those with the dreaded Microsoft URL wrap:


http://snipurl.com/bgrv


Abu Graibb..not just for heterosexuals anymore!



mike

"m II" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:
"m II" wrote in message


No interference problems at all. I've been lucky in the computer
components. A TenTec 320 sits about four feet from the right side of
the monitor with NO problems.


mike


I thought Steve said you owned a portable. :0 scratching head

That's just his insult for anyone who sees through his clown makeup.

Some of the sets here include:

Kenwood R-2000
Zenith Transoceanic 7000 (single meter)
Frg 7
Frg 9600
Sangean 909
RS DX 398
RS DX 160
Superadio III
TenTec 320
Icom IC-R2
Grundig 100* something POS prize from a cereal box.
500 Germanium signal diodes waiting to be made into crystal radio
sets. If I ever overcome my hatred for oatmeal, I'll get the round box
for winding the coils.

Misc Rat Shack scanners..


Nothing too extravagant but all these radios are fun to use.


Cool. I was just jerkin your chain. I'm just an old kidder, I guess?

B.H.

"You don't understand! He wants homosexual veterans not homosexual
draft dodgers! Canaduh will absolutely not do!"

So how did this discussion start with RFI and how to control it and end
up with dxace, Brian Hill, m II, and beer barrel wondering about how to
find homosexual vererans in VFW halls and misspelling Canada. Maybe
one of the alt.sex groups could provide them with some connections.
And possibly alt.geography might help their spelling.

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Brian wrote:
Well, it's been a long time coming, but the mystery is solved, and
can you
believe in the end it was just a TV. I think someone even suggested
it may
be a television, and I nearly disregarded the idea for it's
simplicity.
Well, it looks like I can finally get back to enjoying my radio as I
haven't
in a good while. Thank you to everybody for your help and
suggestions. 73,
and now for some good dx.

-Brian