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pete ke90a wrote:
snip If you brush the dust off the circuit boards, make sure that you don't bump any of the trimmer capicators. Pete KE9OA Reminds me of when I was a kid - my best friend decided to soup up his dad's radio and found the trimmer caps and the slugs in the IF transformers were loose and needed tightening. ![]() Any update on the enthusiast's MW radio you were working on? |
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Hi Mark,
All of the RF design is done...........I have built two prototypes. On one of them, I use a ten turn pot to tune the VCO. The other unit uses a PLL for tuning. I think we will have some time to develop the tuning software, etc. We were tied up with a big project for the last several months; this was the Automark election machine that you may have heard about in the news. All kinds of fun things, getting it through EMC certification. Speaking of MW receivers, I did purchase the Boston Acoustics Receptor clock radio. MW performance is not bad, but the selectivity is pretty wide. It appears to be a single conversion affair that uses a 450kHz I.F. It might be a double conversion unit, but when I peaked the Radio Shack loop antenna on the image frequency, I was able to receive the image. It could also be that the (2 X 2nd I.F.) rejection isn't too good, if this is truly a double conversion unit. Is it worth the 150 dollars? Could be. I did call up Boston Acoustics to see if I could get ahold of some service information. The wouldn't make it available. When I asked them how to remove the main circuit board from the unit so that I could change the 450kHz filter, they explained that they couldn't give me that information, since I if were electrocuted, they would be liable. When I explained that I was going to quote them in my review, they said that it was ok. If anybody figures out how to get this thing apart, feel free to contact me. Oh, another thing............it could be off topic, but this is good for you Drake '7 line folks. If you change the 1st mixer in your Drake R7/TR7 to a Mini-Circuits SRA-3MH (Level 13) mixer, and you change the 1N4148s in the 2nd mixer to matched sets of 1N5711 hot carrier diodes, the receive performance improves a bit. The original 1st mixer has an SSB conversion loss of 6.5dB, while the Mini-Circuits mixer has a conversion loss of 4.75dB. As far as the 2nd mixer, it is good to get rid of those general purpose switching diodes and replace them; the 1N5711 Hot Carrier diodes have lower loss, better IM characteristics, and they are designed for RF applications. One thing about that Radio Shack cleaner. I have used some of it in the past, and it has dissolved plastic switch wafers. I would stay away from that. The Caig De-Oxit is in the same price range, and it doesn't destroy components. In the old days, we used to use Freon based solvents to clean circuit boards. I would get ahold of the De-Oxit and play it safe. Caig is the same company that marketed a product called Tweak. Pete "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... pete ke90a wrote: snip If you brush the dust off the circuit boards, make sure that you don't bump any of the trimmer capicators. Pete KE9OA Reminds me of when I was a kid - my best friend decided to soup up his dad's radio and found the trimmer caps and the slugs in the IF transformers were loose and needed tightening. ![]() Any update on the enthusiast's MW radio you were working on? |
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Pete KE9OA wrote:
As far as the 2nd mixer, it is good to get rid of those general purpose switching diodes and replace them; the 1N5711 Hot Carrier diodes have lower loss, better IM characteristics, and they are designed for RF applications. Is the 1N5711 a good substitute for the 1SS135? |
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According to
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconVa...v-di.htm#mixer the 1SS135 appears to be a VHF/UHF switching diode, from Rohm Semiconductors. It could be a good diode, but I know that the 5711 is intended for mixer/detector service. I was unable to find a data sheet for the 135, so I can't make direct comparisons. I have used the 5711 over the past several years, with good results. Awhile back, I picked up a batch of matched quad sets of these diodes from the Rockwell-Collins Inventory Disposal store for around a dollar a pound. Too bad I got rid of most of them.........................I thought I would be living out there for longer than I did. Easy to take things for granted, when they are plentiful. Fortunately, these things are currently available, and they aren't too expensive. Pete "starman" wrote in message ... Pete KE9OA wrote: As far as the 2nd mixer, it is good to get rid of those general purpose switching diodes and replace them; the 1N5711 Hot Carrier diodes have lower loss, better IM characteristics, and they are designed for RF applications. Is the 1N5711 a good substitute for the 1SS135? |
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Thanks Pete. Anything new to report on the MW receiver?
Pete KE9OA wrote: According to http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconVa...v-di.htm#mixer the 1SS135 appears to be a VHF/UHF switching diode, from Rohm Semiconductors. It could be a good diode, but I know that the 5711 is intended for mixer/detector service. I was unable to find a data sheet for the 135, so I can't make direct comparisons. I have used the 5711 over the past several years, with good results. Awhile back, I picked up a batch of matched quad sets of these diodes from the Rockwell-Collins Inventory Disposal store for around a dollar a pound. Too bad I got rid of most of them.........................I thought I would be living out there for longer than I did. Easy to take things for granted, when they are plentiful. Fortunately, these things are currently available, and they aren't too expensive. Pete "starman" wrote in message ... Pete KE9OA wrote: As far as the 2nd mixer, it is good to get rid of those general purpose switching diodes and replace them; the 1N5711 Hot Carrier diodes have lower loss, better IM characteristics, and they are designed for RF applications. Is the 1N5711 a good substitute for the 1SS135? |
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I wish there was.....................it seems that there is always a project
ahead of mine at work. They do want to market the radio, but the software folks are tied up in more lucrative projects. A friend of mine offered to write the 145170 PIC code for me last Christmas.............I should have let him do it. Originally, I just wanted to market a barebones synthesized radio, but the boss wanted to have a spectrum analyzer display, bass and treble controls, electronic volume, memories, automatic tracking of the loopstick antenna...........etc. At Motorola, we used to call this "creeping elegance". The radio is done............all we need is the uP (arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh) control section to be completed. I built myself a home version of this unit that has no sync detection, no synthesizer, and manual tuning of the loopstick. I tune the VCO with a Spectrol 10-turn pot, and after the first 5 minutes with about a 10kHz drift, it stays tuned all night. Right now, the radio sits up on my shelf along with some of my other homebrew radios. If this thing ever gets to market, I think you will have quite a bit of fun with it. When I get my website up again, I will post some pictures of the prototypes up there. Pete "starman" wrote in message ... Thanks Pete. Anything new to report on the MW receiver? |
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![]() "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message news ![]() I wish there was.....................it seems that there is always a project ahead of mine at work. They do want to market the radio, but the software folks are tied up in more lucrative projects. A friend of mine offered to write the 145170 PIC code for me last Christmas.............I should have let him do it. Originally, I just wanted to market a barebones synthesized radio, but the boss wanted to have a spectrum analyzer display, bass and treble controls, electronic volume, memories, automatic tracking of the loopstick antenna...........etc. At Motorola, we used to call this "creeping elegance". The radio is done............all we need is the uP (arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh) control section to be completed. I built myself a home version of this unit that has no sync detection, no synthesizer, and manual tuning of the loopstick. I tune the VCO with a Spectrol 10-turn pot, and after the first 5 minutes with about a 10kHz drift, it stays tuned all night. Right now, the radio sits up on my shelf along with some of my other homebrew radios. If this thing ever gets to market, I think you will have quite a bit of fun with it. When I get my website up again, I will post some pictures of the prototypes up there. Pete "starman" wrote in message ... Thanks Pete. Anything new to report on the MW receiver? Hi Pete What I should buy, Caig's Pro Gold or Deoxit 5? I want to clean pots, switches, etc. They seem to be similar. Any particular cheap vendor you buy from on the net? Don't know if they sell this stuff locally. Thanks Lucky |
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"Pete KE9OA" wrote:
At Motorola, we used to call this "creeping elegance". Oh, you worked for the Dark Side at Bat Wing Central, huh? I've always called that "creeping featureism." -- Eric F. Richards "Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass, often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940 |
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Wayyyy back in the olden days,when Shortwave Radio was aborning.It
wasen't like they could step over to the nearest handy dandy radio store and buy a factory made shortwave radio,, No Sir! They had to round up some parts and or buy some kind of a kit thingy and build their own Shortwave Radio. cuhulin |
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Pete,
I hope you make it to production with the MW receiver. It sounds like a real winner, especially if it gets all the bells and whistles. In the meantime is there any chance for offering the sync' detector as an outboard unit which could be added to a car radio? If not, are you free to release the schematic for homebrew projects? Thanks Pete KE9OA wrote: I wish there was.....................it seems that there is always a project ahead of mine at work. They do want to market the radio, but the software folks are tied up in more lucrative projects. A friend of mine offered to write the 145170 PIC code for me last Christmas.............I should have let him do it. Originally, I just wanted to market a barebones synthesized radio, but the boss wanted to have a spectrum analyzer display, bass and treble controls, electronic volume, memories, automatic tracking of the loopstick antenna...........etc. At Motorola, we used to call this "creeping elegance". The radio is done............all we need is the uP (arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh) control section to be completed. I built myself a home version of this unit that has no sync detection, no synthesizer, and manual tuning of the loopstick. I tune the VCO with a Spectrol 10-turn pot, and after the first 5 minutes with about a 10kHz drift, it stays tuned all night. Right now, the radio sits up on my shelf along with some of my other homebrew radios. If this thing ever gets to market, I think you will have quite a bit of fun with it. When I get my website up again, I will post some pictures of the prototypes up there. Pete "starman" wrote in message ... Thanks Pete. Anything new to report on the MW receiver? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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