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Some where i thought that I had read that
Tecsun GEM China (PRC) 'owned' or was a major share holder in Degen. ? Now Is That True ? .. i want to know ~ RHF Actually Degen used to be a subsidiary of Tecsun several years ago, the main business is radio sales, aftermarket service and Electrical Design, no production line, some Tecsun's radio electrical designing was come from Degen, but now Degen was completely separated and independent, Degen has full capacity on receiver designing, mass production and has own sales channel, Degen become a powerful competitor of Tesun thus far , sure some Tecsun's shareholder has shares of Degen, but it absolutely not affect the competitive situation. once tecsun bring out a new model, then Degen has a similar one to compete, for example: Tecsun 9700DX~Degen 1107, Tecsun PL550~Degen 1103, Tecsun PL350~ Degen 1105, Tecsun PL200~ Degen 1102, now Degen are building the flagship of DE110* series , we would like to see what does the Tecsun bring to desk |
All the post is very informative for designer's, I had transfered all
to my forum bbs.leowood.net, sorry it's Chinese version. the designer is also a community moderator in this Chinese radio fan's forum, he has reviewed all the thread, I will keep all in the loop some link here http://bbs.leowood.net/web/leowood/f...=0&ClassID =0 |
Dear Sir,
At the risk of posting too much, may I say that I understand that Degen is one of China's leading radio manufacturers. As such, I hope that the design of this radio is a "no-holds-barred" short wave receiver of absolute top quality. Ergonomics especially should be user-friendly. Menu-driven radios are perfectly acceptable IF the owner's manual is comprehensive and complete. (I own an AOR AR7030 Plus, the best performing radio I have ever owned, which I find very easy to use due in part to its superb owner's manual. Though menu-driven, its ergonomics are superb.) NO "FRILLS" (such as a "fake" analog dial) should be on this radio; everything incorporated should be there for a distinct purpose: the best possible reception of the signals desired. I sincerely hope you will take into consideration my suggestion to incorporate the various new terrestrial digital reception modes. It is not necessary (nor, in my opinion, desirable) to incorporate XM or Sirius satellite "pay" reception into this forthcoming radio. Satellite radio can better be served by another separate receiver. As I stated above, ABSOLUTE TOP QUALITY in DESIGN, COMPONENTS, and CONSTRUCTION QUALITY are of PARAMOUNT importance. Degen should market this radio in the USA under its own name. If the radio is a great one, this will give impetus to awareness of the Degen name in the United States. I believe that, if any company can design and market a near-perfect short wave radio, Degen is that company. Best, Joe |
Thanks, Joe, for spec'ing out an excellent radio - I'd like one of those! now for one additional nit... "Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message ups.com... Clocks should be RADIO-CONTROLLED (and operated independently from radio and powered via 2 AA or AAA batteries). Two times zones should be available, one of which should be UTC. Local time should be adjustable for daylight-savings time (via radio control) if required; UTC should NOT be affected by DST change. One of the clocks (including seconds) should ALWAYS be visible, radio on or off. Regarding the clocks, I suggest making it possible for the user to disable the automatic time-setting based on the radio time signal. Every once in a long while, radio-controlled clocks can mis-read the signal. I had a radio-controlled clock radio misread the DST information, and it was exactly 1 hour off for the next day! If you're relying on the radio to wake you up in the morning, this could be a problem (not likely, I'll admit, but I've seen it happen). Alternatively, design the radio controlled clock logic so that it makes a couple attempts to read the signal, and only update the clock if the results are consistent. Stephen |
Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, At the risk of posting too much, may I say that I understand that Degen is one of China's leading radio manufacturers. As such, I hope that the design of this radio is a "no-holds-barred" short wave receiver of absolute top quality. Ergonomics especially should be user-friendly. Menu-driven radios are perfectly acceptable IF the owner's manual is comprehensive and complete. (I own an AOR AR7030 Plus, the best performing radio I have ever owned, which I find very easy to use due in part to its superb owner's manual. Though menu-driven, its ergonomics are superb.) NO "FRILLS" (such as a "fake" analog dial) should be on this radio; everything incorporated should be there for a distinct purpose: the best possible reception of the signals desired. I sincerely hope you will take into consideration my suggestion to incorporate the various new terrestrial digital reception modes. It is not necessary (nor, in my opinion, desirable) to incorporate XM or Sirius satellite "pay" reception into this forthcoming radio. Satellite radio can better be served by another separate receiver. As I stated above, ABSOLUTE TOP QUALITY in DESIGN, COMPONENTS, and CONSTRUCTION QUALITY are of PARAMOUNT importance. Degen should market this radio in the USA under its own name. If the radio is a great one, this will give impetus to awareness of the Degen name in the United States. I believe that, if any company can design and market a near-perfect short wave radio, Degen is that company. My question is: What relationship does DEGEN have to the PLA (People's Liberation Army)? dxAce Michigan USA |
More to the point, what does your question have to do with Degen radios
and shortwave listening. I am impressed that the designer of the DE1103 has given us some insight into that radio and more importantly has asked the SWL community for suggestions on how to design a new radio. That is a first for me. I think we should focus this discussion on Degen and their shortwave radios. And I'm sure you agree. dxAce wrote: Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, At the risk of posting too much, may I say that I understand that Degen is one of China's leading radio manufacturers. As such, I hope that the design of this radio is a "no-holds-barred" short wave receiver of absolute top quality. Ergonomics especially should be user-friendly. Menu-driven radios are perfectly acceptable IF the owner's manual is comprehensive and complete. (I own an AOR AR7030 Plus, the best performing radio I have ever owned, which I find very easy to use due in part to its superb owner's manual. Though menu-driven, its ergonomics are superb.) NO "FRILLS" (such as a "fake" analog dial) should be on this radio; everything incorporated should be there for a distinct purpose: the best possible reception of the signals desired. I sincerely hope you will take into consideration my suggestion to incorporate the various new terrestrial digital reception modes. It is not necessary (nor, in my opinion, desirable) to incorporate XM or Sirius satellite "pay" reception into this forthcoming radio. Satellite radio can better be served by another separate receiver. As I stated above, ABSOLUTE TOP QUALITY in DESIGN, COMPONENTS, and CONSTRUCTION QUALITY are of PARAMOUNT importance. Degen should market this radio in the USA under its own name. If the radio is a great one, this will give impetus to awareness of the Degen name in the United States. I believe that, if any company can design and market a near-perfect short wave radio, Degen is that company. My question is: What relationship does DEGEN have to the PLA (People's Liberation Army)? dxAce Michigan USA |
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A couple of points. To make such a statement you apparently have
intimate knowlege of their financial condition and ownership. Perhaps you would care to share it. What are the percentage of ownership of the major stockholders and are dividends paid to all classes of shareholder. Please give us details of any cross ownership between this company and other commercial companies and development banks. What are the wages at this company. Does the company transfer funds to its owners by management fees in addition to dividends? You indicate a concern about buying products from non north american countries. Have you noticed that most of the clothing, appliances, cars and indeed almost all consumer goods are not from the U.S. To not have noticed you must have had your head firmly planted in the sand for several decades now. To not buy from developing countries would be all but impossible from an individual standpoint and pretty foolish for the U.S. as a global economic force. dxAce wrote: wrote: More to the point, what does your question have to do with Degen radios and shortwave listening. [?] It was a legitimate question regarding DEGEN radios. (And other Chinese sets as well) You may not like being reminded that by your purchase you help fund the PLA and help promote slave labour? Got a problem with that, 'tard boy? dxAce Michigan USA I am impressed that the designer of the DE1103 has given us some insight into that radio and more importantly has asked the SWL community for suggestions on how to design a new radio. That is a first for me. I think we should focus this discussion on Degen and their shortwave radios. And I'm sure you agree. dxAce wrote: Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, At the risk of posting too much, may I say that I understand that Degen is one of China's leading radio manufacturers. As such, I hope that the design of this radio is a "no-holds-barred" short wave receiver of absolute top quality. Ergonomics especially should be user-friendly. Menu-driven radios are perfectly acceptable IF the owner's manual is comprehensive and complete. (I own an AOR AR7030 Plus, the best performing radio I have ever owned, which I find very easy to use due in part to its superb owner's manual. Though menu-driven, its ergonomics are superb.) NO "FRILLS" (such as a "fake" analog dial) should be on this radio; everything incorporated should be there for a distinct purpose: the best possible reception of the signals desired. I sincerely hope you will take into consideration my suggestion to incorporate the various new terrestrial digital reception modes. It is not necessary (nor, in my opinion, desirable) to incorporate XM or Sirius satellite "pay" reception into this forthcoming radio. Satellite radio can better be served by another separate receiver. As I stated above, ABSOLUTE TOP QUALITY in DESIGN, COMPONENTS, and CONSTRUCTION QUALITY are of PARAMOUNT importance. Degen should market this radio in the USA under its own name. If the radio is a great one, this will give impetus to awareness of the Degen name in the United States. I believe that, if any company can design and market a near-perfect short wave radio, Degen is that company. My question is: What relationship does DEGEN have to the PLA (People's Liberation Army)? dxAce Michigan USA |
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