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Old February 7th 05, 05:29 PM
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political parties had failed to hold elections or bring Maoist rebels
to peace talks


Maoist = Communist (supported by communists from China)


Don't think it couldn't happen here in America. All that's needed is
another terrorist attack on the scale of 9-11, maybe even bigger, and
Americans would practically be BEGGING Bush to take all their freedoms,
take all their liberty, as long as it would save them from the evil
terrorists. The problem is that trading freedom for security is a
bargain with the devil, metaphorically speaking-you lose your freedom
yet are no safer. Benjamin Franklin realized this when he said that
those who trade essential liberty for temporary safety get neither
liberty nor safety. Americans seem to have forgotten that-they'd
willingly trade the Constitution for a police state in order to be saved
from Osama, yet the terrorists would still attack and the only thing
free about the US would be its rhetoric about preserving freedom. Coming
soon to a newspaper in your town: editorials about clean socks.


When communist terrorists start shooting off your children, rape you wife,
and torture your neighbor, YOU TO will be begging the government to
"protect" you!


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Old February 8th 05, 10:12 PM
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Obviously, one thing the people of Nepal need right now is outside
news via shortwave.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/in...a/08nepal.html

February 8, 2005
Nepal's King Cracks Down on Politics and News Media
By AMY WALDMAN

KATMANDU, Nepal, Feb. 7 - Instead of the usual spicy mix of current
affairs and politics, the subject of Radio Sagarmatha's talk show on
Saturday night was as bland as rice.

In fact, the subject was rice: the differences, as explained by a
scientist, between golden, wild and other varieties. That was the only
topic the independent Nepali FM station felt safe to discuss.

"Normally I don't do that kind of program," a 31-year-old journalist
at the station said, laughing nervously as a soldier listened. When
the soldier - one of six lounging around the station - moved off, the
smile fell away.

"Our hands are tied," the journalist said.

Six days ago Nepal's king ended the country's 15-year experiment with
democracy and took power for himself, imposing a state of emergency
and suspending a host of civil liberties, including freedom of
expression. Nepalis have been facing something between fear and a
farce since then, adjusting to a combination of royal rule and martial
law. Those in politics and the news media feel particularly under
siege.

In a televised address last Tuesday morning, King Gyanendra said he
was taking power for three years because the country's fractious
political parties had failed to hold elections or bring Maoist rebels
to peace talks. As he spoke, phone lines and Internet connections were
being cut, political and student leaders were being detained and
soldiers were arriving at news organizations' offices to take on their
new role as censors.

Nepalis now have no freedom of assembly, expression or opinion; no
right to information, property or privacy; and no protection from
preventive detention. The government has banned any criticism of the
king's action for six months, and any public comment that could affect
the morale of the security agencies.

[...]

All of the community radio stations that sprang up in the 1990's are
locked up, playing only music or discussing things like rice. The
BBC's popular Nepali news service has been stopped, and Netra K. C.,
its reporter in the western city of Nepalganj, has been detained,
according to human rights activists. Newspapers have been reduced to
editorializing about safely banal subjects, like the weather or clean
socks, or resorting to metaphor to make their case.
[...]

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Old February 8th 05, 10:41 PM
 
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Rice? Rice (white rice,that is) was one of our "secret weapons" in the
Vietnam War.We shipped millions of tons of white rice over there.White
rice has all of the nutrients bleached out of it.
cuhulin

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Old February 9th 05, 03:14 AM
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Joel Rubin wrote:

Obviously, one thing the people of Nepal need right now is outside
news via shortwave.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/in...a/08nepal.html

February 8, 2005
Nepal's King Cracks Down on Politics and News Media
By AMY WALDMAN

KATMANDU, Nepal, Feb. 7 - Instead of the usual spicy mix of current
affairs and politics, the subject of Radio Sagarmatha's talk show on
Saturday night was as bland as rice.

In fact, the subject was rice: the differences, as explained by a
scientist, between golden, wild and other varieties. That was the only
topic the independent Nepali FM station felt safe to discuss.

"Normally I don't do that kind of program," a 31-year-old journalist
at the station said, laughing nervously as a soldier listened. When
the soldier - one of six lounging around the station - moved off, the
smile fell away.

"Our hands are tied," the journalist said.

Six days ago Nepal's king ended the country's 15-year experiment with
democracy and took power for himself, imposing a state of emergency
and suspending a host of civil liberties, including freedom of
expression. Nepalis have been facing something between fear and a
farce since then, adjusting to a combination of royal rule and martial
law. Those in politics and the news media feel particularly under
siege.

In a televised address last Tuesday morning, King Gyanendra said he
was taking power for three years because the country's fractious
political parties had failed to hold elections or bring Maoist rebels
to peace talks. As he spoke, phone lines and Internet connections were
being cut, political and student leaders were being detained and
soldiers were arriving at news organizations' offices to take on their
new role as censors.

Nepalis now have no freedom of assembly, expression or opinion; no
right to information, property or privacy; and no protection from
preventive detention. The government has banned any criticism of the
king's action for six months, and any public comment that could affect
the morale of the security agencies.

[...]

All of the community radio stations that sprang up in the 1990's are
locked up, playing only music or discussing things like rice. The
BBC's popular Nepali news service has been stopped, and Netra K. C.,
its reporter in the western city of Nepalganj, has been detained,
according to human rights activists. Newspapers have been reduced to
editorializing about safely banal subjects, like the weather or clean
socks, or resorting to metaphor to make their case.
[...]


Don't think it couldn't happen here in America. All that's needed is
another terrorist attack on the scale of 9-11, maybe even bigger, and
Americans would practically be BEGGING Bush to take all their freedoms,
take all their liberty, as long as it would save them from the evil
terrorists. The problem is that trading freedom for security is a
bargain with the devil, metaphorically speaking-you lose your freedom
yet are no safer. Benjamin Franklin realized this when he said that
those who trade essential liberty for temporary safety get neither
liberty nor safety. Americans seem to have forgotten that-they'd
willingly trade the Constitution for a police state in order to be saved
from Osama, yet the terrorists would still attack and the only thing
free about the US would be its rhetoric about preserving freedom. Coming
soon to a newspaper in your town: editorials about clean socks.


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Old February 9th 05, 03:04 PM
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"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Joel Rubin wrote:

Obviously, one thing the people of Nepal need right now is outside
news via shortwave.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/in...a/08nepal.html

February 8, 2005
Nepal's King Cracks Down on Politics and News Media
By AMY WALDMAN

KATMANDU, Nepal, Feb. 7 - Instead of the usual spicy mix of

current
affairs and politics, the subject of Radio Sagarmatha's talk show

on
Saturday night was as bland as rice.

In fact, the subject was rice: the differences, as explained by a
scientist, between golden, wild and other varieties. That was the

only
topic the independent Nepali FM station felt safe to discuss.

"Normally I don't do that kind of program," a 31-year-old

journalist
at the station said, laughing nervously as a soldier listened.

When
the soldier - one of six lounging around the station - moved off,

the
smile fell away.

"Our hands are tied," the journalist said.

Six days ago Nepal's king ended the country's 15-year experiment

with
democracy and took power for himself, imposing a state of

emergency
and suspending a host of civil liberties, including freedom of
expression. Nepalis have been facing something between fear and a
farce since then, adjusting to a combination of royal rule and

martial
law. Those in politics and the news media feel particularly under
siege.

In a televised address last Tuesday morning, King Gyanendra said

he
was taking power for three years because the country's fractious
political parties had failed to hold elections or bring Maoist

rebels
to peace talks. As he spoke, phone lines and Internet connections

were
being cut, political and student leaders were being detained and
soldiers were arriving at news organizations' offices to take on

their
new role as censors.

Nepalis now have no freedom of assembly, expression or opinion; no
right to information, property or privacy; and no protection from
preventive detention. The government has banned any criticism of

the
king's action for six months, and any public comment that could

affect
the morale of the security agencies.

[...]

All of the community radio stations that sprang up in the 1990's

are
locked up, playing only music or discussing things like rice. The
BBC's popular Nepali news service has been stopped, and Netra K.

C.,
its reporter in the western city of Nepalganj, has been detained,
according to human rights activists. Newspapers have been reduced

to
editorializing about safely banal subjects, like the weather or

clean
socks, or resorting to metaphor to make their case.
[...]


Don't think it couldn't happen here in America. All that's needed is
another terrorist attack on the scale of 9-11, maybe even bigger,

and
Americans would practically be BEGGING Bush to take all their

freedoms,
take all their liberty, as long as it would save them from the evil
terrorists. The problem is that trading freedom for security is a
bargain with the devil, metaphorically speaking-you lose your

freedom
yet are no safer. Benjamin Franklin realized this when he said that
those who trade essential liberty for temporary safety get neither
liberty nor safety. Americans seem to have forgotten that-they'd
willingly trade the Constitution for a police state in order to be

saved
from Osama, yet the terrorists would still attack and the only thing
free about the US would be its rhetoric about preserving freedom.

Coming
soon to a newspaper in your town: editorials about clean socks.


Every time I read something like this, I'm reminded that we
did do something like this already, and the country
survived. Mr. Lincoln saw to that.

--Mike L.



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Old February 9th 05, 09:21 PM
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running dogg wrote:
Just as long as I have an Uzi and enough ammo, I can protect myself. I
suppose that a good number of Americans feel the same way, although
admittedly fewer than there used to be.


Hell, that's not enough to protect you from Janet Reno.

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